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Post by Kapitan on Dec 17, 2021 13:58:11 GMT
My complaint is my standard complaint about these sorts of hagiographic ventures. They praised Brian for being with his band and still being out there and still writing music, and zero mention of the unbelievable 74 shows that he put on with the Beach Boys where Brian was singing and playing and having a great time, and the album that the Beach Boys put together , Radio. It's as if the temple priests have to pretend that that never happened in order to most securely protect the veneration of their saint. I don't think it would hurt such devotees to acknowledge that Brian Wilson is still, when he wants to be, a beach boy. I get (and agree with, to some extent) the complaint, but I think it's important to note that these documentaries aren't disinterested journalism, they are branded product. They aren't even trying to "tell the real story" (if there is such a thing), but to sell the product. In this case the product is Brian Wilson, solo artist. It isn't too surprising that they don't focus on a temporary Beach Boys reunion that ended ugly, with Brian apparently hurt.
Now, that is a big part of why I keep hoping for a definitive, warts-and-all, lengthy documentary that encompasses many more points of view. While it will obviously still be released to promote the Beach Boys, at least there are different perspectives there. But when you're getting one person's product, it's inherently going to be telling a certain story a certain way. I'm sure a Mike Love documentary would be absurd and incomplete, too.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2021 18:01:14 GMT
This is a learned and persuasive post by the kapitan. In opposition to any kind of hagiography I'd like to see Mike and Brian interview together talk about how they hurt each other. If I were Mike I would feel very upset still that I had written lyrics to such songs as California girls and that history tried to deny my role in its composition and publishing. Not trying to adjudicate anything but I understand hard feelings on both sides and it's really up to them to work it out on stage or in the studio or in documentary. Or never quote author=" Kapitan" source="/post/29379/thread" timestamp="1639749491"] My complaint is my standard complaint about these sorts of hagiographic ventures. They praised Brian for being with his band and still being out there and still writing music, and zero mention of the unbelievable 74 shows that he put on with the Beach Boys where Brian was singing and playing and having a great time, and the album that the Beach Boys put together , Radio. It's as if the temple priests have to pretend that that never happened in order to most securely protect the veneration of their saint. I don't think it would hurt such devotees to acknowledge that Brian Wilson is still, when he wants to be, a beach boy. I get (and agree with, to some extent) the complaint, but I think it's important to note that these documentaries aren't disinterested journalism, they are branded product. They aren't even trying to "tell the real story" (if there is such a thing), but to sell the product. In this case the product is Brian Wilson, solo artist. It isn't too surprising that they don't focus on a temporary Beach Boys reunion that ended ugly, with Brian apparently hurt.
Now, that is a big part of why I keep hoping for a definitive, warts-and-all, lengthy documentary that encompasses many more points of view. While it will obviously still be released to promote the Beach Boys, at least there are different perspectives there. But when you're getting one person's product, it's inherently going to be telling a certain story a certain way. I'm sure a Mike Love documentary would be absurd and incomplete, too.
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Post by Kapitan on Dec 18, 2021 13:56:08 GMT
Various clips from the doc have been posted online. Here is the "Honeycomb" section from Brian's own channel, which was one of my favorite parts to watch. Not because I imagine "oh, this is what Brian used to be like, he's back to the height of his powers!" No, not that. But I just love watching anyone in the studio, almost, and this band is fun. And Brian is funny. For some reason, I just get a huge kick out of him saying hi to people. (Is that weird? True, though.)
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Post by The Cincinnati Kid on Jan 19, 2022 17:05:53 GMT
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Post by kds on Jan 19, 2022 17:22:21 GMT
Is this a limited independent release? Usually Amazon would have a Prime option, and much cheaper than $32
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Feb 12, 2022 14:50:33 GMT
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Post by lonelysummer on Feb 15, 2022 3:44:31 GMT
It's too early for April Fools Day, but I've heard there is going to be a documentary about Carl Wilson. The title is I'll Bet He's Nice.
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Post by carllove on Feb 16, 2022 14:40:49 GMT
It's too early for April Fools Day, but I've heard there is going to be a documentary about Carl Wilson. The title is I'll Bet He's Nice. 🤣🤣🤣 Good One lonelysummer!
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Post by B.E. on Feb 19, 2022 16:08:24 GMT
It's too early for April Fools Day, but I've heard there is going to be a documentary about Carl Wilson. The title is I'll Bet He's Nice. 🤣🤣🤣 Good One lonelysummer! Jokes aside, I love the title choice of Long Promised Road. If you haven't seen the documentary and/or listened to the soundtrack, then I suppose it makes less sense, but the song clearly means A LOT to him (as does Carl and Jack), and is prominently featured in the film, and so it's very fitting. It's also something of a tribute to both of them. Personally, I find it interesting and insightful - considering Brian's direct involvement in the song is relatively limited. If it weren't for this project or comments he's made here or there in his book or in interviews, we might not know that Brian gives a damn about the song (or Jack, for that matter). And, obviously, the title itself, outside of the personal connection Brian has to it, is just a great and fitting title for this sort of project. Do some people think it's inappropriate for Brian to use the title, like, as if he's stealing it? I don't get that feeling at all. Quite the opposite. Alternatively, they could have used a more predictable title along the lines of "I Just Wasn't Made For These Times" or "Love and Mercy" again, but how boring would that have been?
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Post by B.E. on Apr 26, 2022 23:33:33 GMT
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Post by kds on Apr 27, 2022 12:29:15 GMT
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Post by Kapitan on May 24, 2022 13:32:31 GMT
It appears that Long Promised Road documentary will be released as a PBS American Masters series program, beginning June 14. For anyone who hasn't watched it, this would be a nice chance to see it (for free, assuming you've got access to American broadcast TV). Here is the trailer on the American Masters YouTube channel.
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Post by kds on May 24, 2022 13:41:46 GMT
My OCD is coming out with Long Promised Road (similar to how I feel about Get Back).
I've almost watched the doc several times, but I keep thinking about getting a copy on DVD.
Why should I buy a DVD of something I'm probably going to watch once?
Well, because I own DVDs of American Band, IJWMTFF, Endless Harmony, Brian Wilson On Tour, Classic Albums - Pet Sounds, Beautiful Dreamer, and Doin It Again.
So, in my brain, I feel like I have to add LPR to the collection.
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Post by The Cincinnati Kid on Jun 10, 2022 14:45:34 GMT
PBS posted an outtake from where Brian visits Hawthorne High. I wish they would have included this in the original film as we get a much more lucid Brian, especially at the end.
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Post by kds on Jun 10, 2022 15:03:00 GMT
I wonder if any outtakes like that are included on the DVD or BluRay release. I didn't see any information on special features on the Amazon description.
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