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Post by B.E. on Nov 20, 2021 14:45:43 GMT
I think the thing that really got me about the documentary was how much you actually got to see Brian’s emotions. I have to say, I shed a tear or two as well. Sometimes it felt a little uncomfortable when the camera just kept focusing on Brian as he has tears in his eyes, but it made this documentary so much more moving and personal than other ones I have seen about Brian. You can tell how much Jason cares for his friend as well. This is a documentary with heart that shows a side of Brian that we haven’t really had the opportunity to see before. In addition, there are indeed some surprising revelations. This really exceeded my expectations. I am so glad I purchased it instead of renting it. I am going to watch this several times. I totally agree with you. I felt like I knew Brian a little better after watching it. And that's really everything I wanted from it. I've also got to admit I'm feeling similarly to you and Kapitan in wanting to single it out (in one way or another) from other documentaries about Brian/Beach Boys. I'm not sure if it's the "best", but let's just say I wouldn't argue the point with anyone either. It, too, exceeded my expectations - which weren't very high initially, but that final trailer really sold me on the film, so I was very excited last night as I pressed 'play'. In regard to the focus of the camera on Brian, it really did make it more moving and revealing. And, I'd say only a little "uncomfortable" in the sense that we're being let in to see a personal/private moment, not from a filmmaking perspective as if the "camera man" is invading Brian's space to capture a moment. I don't think you meant it that way, but just for those who haven't seen it. Those scenes in the car seem to be filmed by a little camera that's probably attached near the rearview mirror and is always recording. I mean, Brian knows he's being recorded but in the most unobtrusive way possible, and in such a way as he might be able to forget it's even there. Anyway, seeing Brian listen to certain things and hear certain news, can be quite revealing and in certain instances very satisfying (e.g. POB).
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Post by B.E. on Nov 20, 2021 14:52:15 GMT
I have never purchased any of Brian’s solo music, but I liked what I heard in the documentary, so I will probably take the plunge if Apple Music doesn’t have it available. I really enjoyed watching Brian work with his band. He does still have an ear and ideas. He knows what he wants. That was so good to see. There were times when he was working and telling the musicians what he wanted, that I had flashbacks to the Pet Sounds documentary. That was a great thing. It made him seem younger and more like the Genius we all love. Yes, and without spoiling too much (since we all knew there'd be studio footage from the trailer), that was a HUGE highlight and totally exceeded my expectations as well. Indeed, I found it heartwarming. Although, as Kapitan said in the Reviews thread, you also see the apprehension and, potentially, discomfort. Still, to your point, it most certainly was good to see.
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Post by Kapitan on Nov 20, 2021 14:55:59 GMT
I have never purchased any of Brian’s solo music, but I liked what I heard in the documentary, so I will probably take the plunge if Apple Music doesn’t have it available. I really enjoyed watching Brian work with his band. He does still have an ear and ideas. He knows what he wants. That was so good to see. There were times when he was working and telling the musicians what he wanted, that I had flashbacks to the Pet Sounds documentary. That was a great thing. It made him seem younger and more like the Genius we all love. Yes, and without spoiling too much (since we all knew there'd be studio footage from the trailer), that was a HUGE highlight and totally exceeded my expectations as well. Indeed, I found it heartwarming. Although, as Kapitan said in the Reviews thread, you also see the apprehension and, potentially, discomfort. Still, to your point, it most certainly was good to see. Absolutely, it was a highlight! The man was totally present. And carllove, you have never purchased any Brian solo music? Interesting! Have you heard much of it, or stayed away entirely? Obviously everyone would agree it's not as strong a catalog as his Beach Boys best, but there is a lot of very good stuff there, in my opinion. Very good, at its best.
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Post by carllove on Nov 20, 2021 15:30:36 GMT
Yes, and without spoiling too much (since we all knew there'd be studio footage from the trailer), that was a HUGE highlight and totally exceeded my expectations as well. Indeed, I found it heartwarming. Although, as Kapitan said in the Reviews thread, you also see the apprehension and, potentially, discomfort. Still, to your point, it most certainly was good to see. Absolutely, it was a highlight! The man was totally present. And carllove , you have never purchased any Brian solo music? Interesting! Have you heard much of it, or stayed away entirely? Obviously everyone would agree it's not as strong a catalog as his Beach Boys best, but there is a lot of very good stuff there, in my opinion. Very good, at its best. I have heard it - Apple Music has pretty much everything, including Orange Crate Art. There is some good stuff, but never felt the need to purchase a hard copy. I have never purchased any of Carl’s albums either. Dennis though - I have purchased about everything I can find of his on vinyl. I scour discogs weekly for his stuff.
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Post by lonelysummer on Nov 21, 2021 6:22:29 GMT
I think Don Was did the definitive Brian Wilson docufilm with I Just Wasn't Made For These Times. I saw it on Disney Channel before I bought the VHS. Usually, when I would see Brian performing, he would have this "deer in the headlights" look, like he was scared to death to be up there performing. IJWMFTT showcased a Brian who seemed to really be singing his heart out. I thought the musical backing was suitably restrained, understated. And it was very special to hear Brian revisit those old songs with his more mature voice. And this was long enough ago that Brian could be pretty talkative, pretty open about his life. What also made IJWMFTT special back in 1995 was that it came out after several years of relative silence from Brian - the end of the Landy years, etc. There was the promise of new music (Andy Paley was in the film, and we saw Brian and Van Dyke doing "Orange Crate Art"; it was implied that Brian had reconnected with his songwriting and singing genius, and we could expect great things in the future). Well, that was 1995, and I have a hard time believing Brian is going to bless us with years of great music at this point. I know what Brian's career is all about at this stage - touring the world, playing the great songs he wrote between 1962 and 1970-something. As far as another film of talking heads telling us how great Brian is, well besides IJWMFTT, I've seen the Imagination video (with Sean Lennon, Eric Clapton, Elvis Costello, etc), Endless Harmony, Beautiful Dreamer, probably some I've forgotten! But the point is, all the music these folks are discussing was created nearly 60 years ago! Does that make it any less amazing? No, but how many times can you cover the same old ground? Yes, there was a DVD made about Carl, but for obvious reasons, Billy couldn't use any music or performance clips of Carl. He did get a pretty good group of musicians and friends to talk about him. I haven't seen the one about Dennis, so I can't comment on that. So it appears what we really need now is a biopic about Mike Love, the genius behind all those great car, surf and girl songs. And Kokomo. We definitely need a film about the making of Kokomo.
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Post by bellesofparisstan on Nov 21, 2021 18:10:21 GMT
Here is a Rock Cellar interview with Brent Wilson about the doc. And there is one answer that warrants particular attention:
A soundtrack album that will be ALL NEW MUSIC? (Obviously if it includes "Honeycomb," it won't be NEW-new, as in new originals, but at least newly recorded and released, I assume?)
Thanks for sharing, Kapitan. It's a pretty exciting time. A film and TWO albums in a little over a week's time! (The soundtrack album will be available 11/26.) Here are the tracks: Right Where I Belong I'm Going Home It's Not Easy Being Me Slightly American Music It's OK The Night Was So Young Honeycomb Long Promised Road I'm Broke Must Be A Miracle Rock & Roll Has Got A Hold On Me In My Room (Live) Here's a link (courtesy of TelephoneBGsOnAClearDay @ EHF): Long Promised Road. That’s me And yes, for the person asking, it will be available on Apple Music
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Post by bellesofparisstan on Nov 21, 2021 18:12:24 GMT
If they knew this was coming, why bother with the piano album? That's a great track lineup, but will it be GIOMH Part 2? I agree with the Sheriff. This is material that should have been on a high profile album, not a soundtrack to a movie very few will see. And quite frankly, how many "Brian Wilson is a Genius" type films do we need? When was his last work of genius? 1988? 1971? 1966? Too bad we won't ever get a film devoted to Carl or Dennis. The piano album came long after the film from what I understand. The piano album was a thing that Decca records came to Brian with the idea of, so release date and all of that stuff was in their hands. As for the songs, I don’t know but I’m pretty sure that most of these are going to be the versions from the 90s Paley sessions
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Post by lonelysummer on Nov 21, 2021 20:41:22 GMT
If they knew this was coming, why bother with the piano album? That's a great track lineup, but will it be GIOMH Part 2? I agree with the Sheriff. This is material that should have been on a high profile album, not a soundtrack to a movie very few will see. And quite frankly, how many "Brian Wilson is a Genius" type films do we need? When was his last work of genius? 1988? 1971? 1966? Too bad we won't ever get a film devoted to Carl or Dennis. The piano album came long after the film from what I understand. The piano album was a thing that Decca records came to Brian with the idea of, so release date and all of that stuff was in their hands. As for the songs, I don’t know but I’m pretty sure that most of these are going to be the versions from the 90s Paley sessions That would be great to finally have high quality versions of the Paley tracks; that cassette in my collection has that muddled bootleg sound to it. And it would symbolize people actually listening to Brian - he talked fondly of those sessions over the years. He even mentioned in the OCA reissue about wanting to get back to those tracks.
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Post by Emdeeh on Nov 22, 2021 5:48:18 GMT
I watched the film on Friday. I have always been curious about who Brian Wilson is as a person. This film does a good job, imo, of humanizing a legendary figure, and it did give me some insights into the guy. The funniest part for me was when he yells at the driver next to them, "hey buddy what year is your car?" or something to that effect. The most moving is his talking (and reacting) about his brothers, especially Carl.
I really appreciated Bruce Springsteen's take on the music being a balancing act between joy and melancholy -- I often feel like the happier side of the music gets set aside in favor of the sadder side. So it's good to hear that considered as elements in balance.
And my most recent moment of sadness in retrospect, seeing Billy playing in some of the Pet Sounds tour footage and then getting the bad news about him the next day. Now "Farewell My Friend" is the song playing most in my head.
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Post by kds on Nov 22, 2021 13:32:58 GMT
I hope the soundtrack gets a CD release too.
As of two minutes ago, I don't see anything on Amazon about it.
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Post by Kapitan on Nov 24, 2021 1:35:00 GMT
I haven't watched this yet, but wanted to share. Video includes interview with Jason fine and Brent Wilson. It was posted a few days ago but I haven't noticed it mentioned.
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Post by Emdeeh on Nov 24, 2021 21:10:45 GMT
The Associated Press reports that BW:LPR has charted at #7 this week in Apple's "Movies US charts – Independent" category.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2021 2:00:37 GMT
The movie is great because you hear a lot from Brian Wilson and watch him listening to Dennis's album Pacific Ocean Blue which he claims never to have heard which was quite moving.
And yes it is a good humane portrait of a legendary figure, and it's quite touching and poignant throughout. He wants to hear a song and then he wants to turn it off and that sort of thing.
My complaint is my standard complaint about these sorts of hagiographic ventures.
They praised Brian for being with his band and still being out there and still writing music, and zero mention of the unbelievable 74 shows that he put on with the Beach Boys where Brian was singing and playing and having a great time, and the album that the Beach Boys put together , Radio.
It's as if the temple priests have to pretend that that never happened in order to most securely protect the veneration of their saint. I don't think it would hurt such devotees to acknowledge that Brian Wilson is still, when he wants to be, a beach boy.
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Post by lonelysummer on Dec 17, 2021 3:15:27 GMT
The movie is great because you hear a lot from Brian Wilson and watch him listening to Dennis's album Pacific Ocean Blue which he claims never to have heard which was quite moving. And yes it is a good humane portrait of a legendary figure, and it's quite touching and poignant throughout. He wants to hear a song and then he wants to turn it off and that sort of thing. My complaint is my standard complaint about these sorts of hagiographic ventures. They praised Brian for being with his band and still being out there and still writing music, and zero mention of the unbelievable 74 shows that he put on with the Beach Boys where Brian was singing and playing and having a great time, and the album that the Beach Boys put together , Radio. It's as if the temple priests have to pretend that that never happened in order to most securely protect the veneration of their saint. I don't think it would hurt such devotees to acknowledge that Brian Wilson is still, when he wants to be, a beach boy. That's a good point; but I guess C50 breaks up the story about the fabulously successful solo artist Brian Wilson.
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