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Post by Kapitan on Sept 23, 2021 15:45:05 GMT
A new Bruce Springsteen concert film and album, The Legendary 1979 No Nukes Concerts, is scheduled for a November release. The album/film is a 90-minute composite of two performances from 1979's benefit shows in Madison Square Garden, and includes appearances by Tom Petty, Jackson Browne and Rosemary Butler.
It will be released on DVD, Blu-Ray, and CD, as well as available for digital streaming rental.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Sept 23, 2021 16:38:06 GMT
This isn't really news, it's more "of interest" to any Willie Nelson fans. Willie is starting to sit for parts of his concerts. It's OK...he is 88!
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Post by Kapitan on Sept 23, 2021 22:58:36 GMT
Speaking of Willie, he announced his upcoming album, the second of the year. The Willie Nelson Family will be out November 19 and features numerous contributions from the musicians in his family. Interestingly to me, it includes a cover of George Harrison's "All Things Must Pass."
Here is the first track released, "Family Bible."
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Sept 26, 2021 2:53:18 GMT
Genesis' opening night of The Last Domino tour. Thoughts? Feelings?
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Post by kds on Sept 27, 2021 0:31:35 GMT
I saw a clip of them performing That's All. I'm glad I kept my $250-$300, or whatever it was for upper level tickets. On one hand, I'll give Phil come credit for going out there every night, but at those prices, the optics are not good.
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Post by Kapitan on Oct 1, 2021 12:28:54 GMT
Everyone's favorite topic, the halftime show of the Super Bowl, is back. This year's artist ... is five people who are not in a group. Mary J Blige, Eminem, Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, and Kendrick Lamar (the only one I'd consider a really current artist among that batch of legacy artists) will split the duties.
I like some of Lamar's music. I like some, but less, of Dre and Snoop. Don't care about the other two in the slightest. I suspect a lot of older white guys (like, older than me) will be tremendously upset, though people should remember that whatever older fans hoping for a Springsteen type may think, these artists are legends for many (most?) people my age and younger.
(I should add, my defense of them is basically a disinterested one: there's a less-than-1% chance I'll watch the performance. I could barely care less.)
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Post by kds on Oct 1, 2021 12:34:06 GMT
Everyone's favorite topic, the halftime show of the Super Bowl, is back. This year's artist ... is five people who are not in a group. Mary J Blige, Eminem, Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, and Kendrick Lamar (the only one I'd consider a really current artist among that batch of legacy artists) will split the duties.
I like some of Lamar's music. I like some, but less, of Dre and Snoop. Don't care about the other two in the slightest. I suspect a lot of older white guys (like, older than me) will be tremendously upset, though people should remember that whatever older fans hoping for a Springsteen type may think, these artists are legends for many (most?) people my age and younger.
A couple years ago, I might have been upset, but I've just accepted the fact that the Super Bowl Halftime show is not catered for me. There was a nice run after the Janet Jackson nip slip in the 00s, but I don't see the NFL and Pepsi putting anymore old rock bands up there again. It's just as well anyway. The last several years, I've DVRed the game, and watched it on a delay once we get our son to bed, so I skip the ads (which really IMO haven't been all that interesting in recent years as they tend to leak online prior to the game) and the half time show. I can usually catch up to the live feed by the fourth quarter.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Oct 1, 2021 12:51:04 GMT
Everyone's favorite topic, the halftime show of the Super Bowl, is back. This year's artist ... is five people who are not in a group. Mary J Blige, Eminem, Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, and Kendrick Lamar (the only one I'd consider a really current artist among that batch of legacy artists) will split the duties.
I like some of Lamar's music. I like some, but less, of Dre and Snoop. Don't care about the other two in the slightest. I suspect a lot of older white guys (like, older than me) will be tremendously upset, though people should remember that whatever older fans hoping for a Springsteen type may think, these artists are legends for many (most?) people my age and younger.
A couple years ago, I might have been upset, but I've just accepted the fact that the Super Bowl Halftime show is not catered for me. There was a nice run after the Janet Jackson nip slip in the 00s, but I don't see the NFL and Pepsi putting anymore old rock bands up there again. It's just as well anyway. The last several years, I've DVRed the game, and watched it on a delay once we get our son to bed, so I skip the ads (which really IMO haven't been all that interesting in recent years as they tend to leak online prior to the game) and the half time show. I can usually catch up to the live feed by the fourth quarter. Kapitan, I'm the older white guy you're referring to. On one hand I am upset. Due to the generational thing, I do struggle with the changing of the guard - you know, whatever happened to real music! But, like kds posted, on the other hand I've accepted that the days of Paul McCartney and The Who and even Bruce Springsteen are a thing of the past. At least I think I've accepted it. Well, maybe a little.
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Post by kds on Oct 1, 2021 12:59:24 GMT
What sucks for me is I've been the old white guy lamenting the state of modern music since I was probably 13.
I'm 41 now, and I think I accept it more because I'm at the age where I'm "supposed" to dislike modern music. But, in my teens, 20s, and even most of my 30s, it was irritating.
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Post by Kapitan on Oct 1, 2021 13:12:25 GMT
Somewhat like KDS, I actually was more grouchy about it as a late-teen and twenty-something than I am now.
More than the style shift (rock to rap and RnB), I am depressed at the reduced role of real musicians performing. Between sampling and programming, there is just so little in those (and some other) genres that is actually performed--instead it's produced. It's one reason there are so many star producers over the past 20 years: the producer is the modern-day band as well as the producer, "composing" the music that neither he nor anyone else (except maybe the groups being sampled, in relevant cases) ever did or ever will actually play. That's what depresses me most of all.
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Post by kds on Oct 1, 2021 13:28:33 GMT
Somewhat like KDS, I actually was more grouchy about it as a late-teen and twenty-something than I am now.
More than the style shift (rock to rap and RnB), I am depressed at the reduced role of real musicians performing. Between sampling and programming, there is just so little in those (and some other) genres that is actually performed--instead it's produced. It's one reason there are so many star producers over the past 20 years: the producer is the modern-day band as well as the producer, "composing" the music that neither he nor anyone else (except maybe the groups being sampled, in relevant cases) ever did or ever will actually play. That's what depresses me most of all.
I agree with this too. And, the other thing I find sad is that people just accept it. The bar's been lowered so far in the last 25 years in terms of what actually constitutes talent. And, I'll admit, I was a little surprised when scrolling through my Facebook feed yesterday, and seeing a lot of my contact who were excited about the announcement. That just shows how out of touch I've always been with my own generation in regards to music (I thought the same thing earlier in the week when I saw endless posts celebrating the 30 anniversary of Nevermind).
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Post by Kapitan on Oct 1, 2021 13:35:15 GMT
Lip syncing is the other, related component. What was once mocked as virtually unforgivable (except on certain TV shows, where even then it was made fun of by "real" musicians intentionally sabotaging the effort) is now totally understood and acceptable on major tours. A pop artist is often mostly a fashion and dance icon with a faux-band participating in the choreography and the "singer" just clearly lip syncing. And the excuse, if there is one, is that it makes for a better show.
If it makes for a better show to not perform the music, perhaps the "musician" is in the wrong business.
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Post by kds on Oct 1, 2021 13:38:16 GMT
Lip syncing is the other, related component. What was once mocked as virtually unforgivable (except on certain TV shows, where even then it was made fun of by "real" musicians intentionally sabotaging the effort) is now totally understood and acceptable on major tours. A pop artist is often mostly a fashion and dance icon with a faux-band participating in the choreography and the "singer" just clearly lip syncing. And the excuse, if there is one, is that it makes for a better show.
If it makes for a better show to not perform the music, perhaps the "musician" is in the wrong business. Yep, I never got that. If I want to watch a scantily clad girl dancing to bad pop music, there are far cheaper avenues that a "concert."
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Post by B.E. on Oct 1, 2021 13:42:05 GMT
Fortunately (?) for me, I never felt like I was part of the guard in the first place, and modern music was always crap. That 70s Show ran from 1998-2006, my middle and high school years, and believe me, I looked like I walked right out of that show. I was always living in the past, and while I wasn't the only one, we were in the vast minority. So, yeah, I've always accepted that the masses don't listen to the music that I listen to - 100% - it's not even something I think or care about. I sure as hell wasn't selecting the varsity basketball warm-up music! That brings me to football, what do we think the players these days are listening to? Or, what do we think they were listening to back in the early 2000s when past-their-prime classic rockers were performing year in and year out during the biggest game of their lives? Now that I think about it, why is there a concert at halftime anyway? Shouldn't the Super Bowl be about football, not music and commercials? The halftime show should just be former Super Bowl champs and hall of famers of the participating teams commenting on the game and their experiences.
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Post by Kapitan on Oct 1, 2021 13:47:16 GMT
That brings me to football, what do we think the players these days are listening to? Or, what do we think they were listening to back in the early 2000s when past-their-prime classic rockers were performing year in and year out during the biggest game of their lives? Now that I think about it, why is there a concert at halftime anyway? Shouldn't the Super Bowl be about football, not music and commercials? The halftime show should just be former Super Bowl champs and hall of famers of the participating teams commenting on the game and their experiences. Yep. I think it was the NBA (but could have been NFL) that had as its intro/outro music between segments as a Robb Thomas song. Umm...probably not key demographic. The NFL used to have a lot of country, too. I'm not saying none of their fans like it, obviously some do.
Generally I agree. When you try to tie things together for sponsorships and such, it can really work. But it also can just seem silly when it's forced or a tired idea. Maybe the idea of halftime shows being "legendary artists" just doesn't make sense anymore, with so few actual demographic-spanning stars left in society, as well as (like you said) the fact that none of rock, country, rap, pop, or RnB has any inherent connection to football.
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