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Post by kds on Aug 5, 2021 13:09:58 GMT
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Aug 6, 2021 9:52:42 GMT
I thought this story might have more legs. At first I was quite surprised, both that Charlie was unavailable and that the band made the decision to tour without him. That leaves just two members of the original band, and makes "them" just like a lot of other bands doing the same thing. When you compile a list of 60's bands who are touring with one or two (or zero!) original members, the shock value lessens and makes it appear more commonplace. This new norm took a while but, if The Rolling Stones can do it (go down to two original members), I guess any band can. Oh, and yes, I realize Ronnie Wood is a wild card in the scenario.
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Post by kds on Aug 6, 2021 12:15:18 GMT
I thought this story might have more legs. At first I was quite surprised, both that Charlie was unavailable and that the band made the decision to tour without him. That leaves just two members of the original band, and makes "them" just like a lot of other bands doing the same thing. When you compile a list of 60's bands who are touring with one or two (or zero!) original members, the shock value lessens and makes it appear more commonplace. This new norm took a while but, if The Rolling Stones can do it (go down to two original members), I guess any band can. Oh, and yes, I realize Ronnie Wood is a wild card in the scenario. I guess Mick and Keith figure they're not getting any younger, and they've already postponed these shows once. So, they might as well soldier on. Unfortunately, as time passes, this will become more of a regularity. These days, when you buy a ticket to see a legacy act, you're usually lucky to see three "classic" members of the band, and now with these guys getting into their 70s and 80s, it's not even a guarantee that all of the current members will be available. In recent years, BOC has done shows without Eric Bloom. ZZ Top did a few shows without Dusty Hill, before his death. It stinks.
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Post by The Cincinnati Kid on Aug 6, 2021 12:25:00 GMT
I was actually planning to see the Stones this year, I missed out last year (in a much closer location) because of COVID. I guess I'll have to take the same stance as the Beach Boys in that I might as well see them while I can, because before long I won't be able to see any original members.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Aug 6, 2021 12:34:24 GMT
I thought this story might have more legs. At first I was quite surprised, both that Charlie was unavailable and that the band made the decision to tour without him. That leaves just two members of the original band, and makes "them" just like a lot of other bands doing the same thing. When you compile a list of 60's bands who are touring with one or two (or zero!) original members, the shock value lessens and makes it appear more commonplace. This new norm took a while but, if The Rolling Stones can do it (go down to two original members), I guess any band can. Oh, and yes, I realize Ronnie Wood is a wild card in the scenario. I guess Mick and Keith figure they're not getting any younger, and they've already postponed these shows once. So, they might as well soldier on. Unfortunately, as time passes, this will become more of a regularity. These days, when you buy a ticket to see a legacy act, you're usually lucky to see three "classic" members of the band, and now with these guys getting into their 70s and 80s, it's not even a guarantee that all of the current members will be available. In recent years, BOC has done shows without Eric Bloom. ZZ Top did a few shows without Dusty Hill, before his death. It stinks. I see where ZZ Top is continuing to tour with long-time guitar tech, Elwood Francis, on bass. I don't know if that will continue after playing their already-booked dates. I know I'm repeating myself, but the list of very popular groups doing this is growing - The Beach Boys, The Who, Fleetwood Mac, ZZ Top, KISS (kind of), The Rolling Stones (hopefully temporarily), Pink Floyd (did it for a long time), and others. Those are some pretty big names.
Oh, and I had no idea that BOC played some dates without Eric Bloom. Would that leave Buck Dharma as the only original member at those shows?
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Post by kds on Aug 6, 2021 12:38:52 GMT
I guess Mick and Keith figure they're not getting any younger, and they've already postponed these shows once. So, they might as well soldier on. Unfortunately, as time passes, this will become more of a regularity. These days, when you buy a ticket to see a legacy act, you're usually lucky to see three "classic" members of the band, and now with these guys getting into their 70s and 80s, it's not even a guarantee that all of the current members will be available. In recent years, BOC has done shows without Eric Bloom. ZZ Top did a few shows without Dusty Hill, before his death. It stinks. I see where ZZ Top is continuing to tour with long-time guitar tech, Elwood Francis, on bass. I don't know if that will continue after playing their already-booked dates. I know I'm repeating myself, but the list of very popular groups doing this is growing - The Beach Boys, The Who, ZZ Top, KISS (kind of), The Rolling Stones (hopefully temporarily), Pink Floyd (did it for a long time), and others. Those are some pretty big names.
Oh, and I had no idea that BOC played some dates without Eric Bloom. Would that leave Buck Dharma as the only original member at those shows? Yeah, this was probably around 2012, and BOC were coming through Maryland. I was thinking of seeing them, but decided to skip it, having seen them four times between 2005-2011. And, I was glad I did when I saw Eric wasn't available. So, yes, Buck was the lone original at those concerts. At least bands with fractured lineups, The Beach Boys, The Who, KISS, etc, you know when you buy that ticket. But, it especially stinks when a prominent member has to bow out after the ticket was bought. IIRC, this happened with AC/DC when Brian Johnson was relieved of his duties and replaced by Axl Rose (thankfully, AC/DC is mostly in tact again), and they offered full refunds to those who'd already bought tickets.
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Post by Kapitan on Aug 24, 2021 15:22:20 GMT
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Post by Kapitan on Aug 25, 2021 13:46:39 GMT
Two or three years after beginning to (at least sometimes) refer to himself as such (at which time he released an album by that name), Kanye West has now reportedly formally filed paperwork to change his name to Ye.
Sometimes I think some celebrities are having a laugh on the gullible public who pays attention to what must be calculated, cynical stunts. Other times I think they're actually insane and we're twisted voyeurs to pay attention to their lunacy. And other times I just don't know what to think. As for Kanye--sorry, Ye--I guess I mostly just don't care one way or the other.
Of all the musicians I've consistently seen labeled genius, he's probably the one about whom the descriptor makes the least sense. I don't get it.
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Post by kds on Aug 25, 2021 14:41:36 GMT
Two or three years after beginning to (at least sometimes) refer to himself as such (at which time he released an album by that name), Kanye West has now reportedly formally filed paperwork to change his name to Ye.
Sometimes I think some celebrities are having a laugh on the gullible public who pays attention to what must be calculated, cynical stunts. Other times I think they're actually insane and we're twisted voyeurs to pay attention to their lunacy. And other times I just don't know what to think. As for Kanye--sorry, Ye--I guess I mostly just don't care one way or the other.
Of all the musicians I've consistently seen labeled genius, he's probably the one about whom the descriptor makes the least sense. I don't get it.
I honestly don't know what to think about some of these celebrity personalities these days. I feel like with the internet and social media, it's so much easier to create front. But, I don't know if West is a character, or if he's just a nut. I feel like back in the pre internet days, it was a lot easier to tell who was really a weirdo and who was just an act.
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Post by Kapitan on Aug 30, 2021 16:59:54 GMT
New trailer for the upcoming Todd Haynes documentary on the Velvet Underground (to be released on Apple TV+ for streaming on Oct. 15).
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Post by Kapitan on Sept 9, 2021 15:46:44 GMT
Rolling Stone ran an interview with Lindsay Buckingham in which he describes being fired from Fleetwood Mac; the piece also apparently runs Stevie Nicks's statement on the subject (which, unsurprisingly, disagrees). I haven't been able to read the RS piece, as it requires you to be a member. But here is Pitchfork's story on Nicks's statement. The story also quotes Buckingham's interview and perspective.
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Post by kds on Sept 17, 2021 12:37:27 GMT
I know one of the great debates in the BB Web World is whether or not Brian Wilson should really be touring anymore. But, I think Phil Collins might be lapping him right now. Collins can no longer play drums, and his voice seems shot from some of the footage I've seen from his pre COVID solo tour. Yet, Genesis is charging absolutely outrageous prices to see them in concert. A nosebleed seat would've cost me about four times what a 15th row seat for a BW show cost last winter. ultimateclassicrock.com/phil-collins-genesis-reunion-tour-end/
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Sept 17, 2021 12:57:09 GMT
I know one of the great debates in the BB Web World is whether or not Brian Wilson should really be touring anymore. But, I think Phil Collins might be lapping him right now. Collins can no longer play drums, and his voice seems shot from some of the footage I've seen from his pre COVID solo tour. Yet, Genesis is charging absolutely outrageous prices to see them in concert. A nosebleed seat would've cost me about four times what a 15th row seat for a BW show cost last winter. ultimateclassicrock.com/phil-collins-genesis-reunion-tour-end/I'm not a big Genesis or Phil Collins fan, though I like some of their stuff, but I am surprised to see Collins touring or performing. When I think of Phil in concert, I see him sitting at the drums and really getting into the music. I think about him standing at the microphone and being very animated. And, I see him belting out his vocals, almost screaming effectively at times. Without any of that, what's left? Maybe his voice is stronger than we think? I read another interview with Phil where he left the door open a little bit with his playing some drums. That would obviously be an emotional part of the show. I don't know...I just didn't think of Phil Collins as one of those artists who WOULD hang around with these limitations. Did he get hammered in divorce settlements?
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Post by kds on Sept 17, 2021 14:19:06 GMT
I know one of the great debates in the BB Web World is whether or not Brian Wilson should really be touring anymore. But, I think Phil Collins might be lapping him right now. Collins can no longer play drums, and his voice seems shot from some of the footage I've seen from his pre COVID solo tour. Yet, Genesis is charging absolutely outrageous prices to see them in concert. A nosebleed seat would've cost me about four times what a 15th row seat for a BW show cost last winter. ultimateclassicrock.com/phil-collins-genesis-reunion-tour-end/I'm not a big Genesis or Phil Collins fan, though I like some of their stuff, but I am surprised to see Collins touring or performing. When I think of Phil in concert, I see him sitting at the drums and really getting into the music. I think about him standing at the microphone and being very animated. And, I see him belting out his vocals, almost screaming effectively at times. Without any of that, what's left? Maybe his voice is stronger than we think? I read another interview with Phil where he left the door open a little bit with his playing some drums. That would obviously be an emotional part of the show. I don't know...I just didn't think of Phil Collins as one of those artists who WOULD hang around with these limitations. Did he get hammered in divorce settlements? The divorce does make you wonder. This actually makes me really regret not going to see Genesis on their 2007 tour. Phil was still in pretty good shape then. Although, I was more of a casual Genesis fan then, I've gotten to be a much bigger fan over the last several years. Maybe I'll just wait and see if Steve Hackett comes around. It'll be much cheaper, and I'll hear more of the 70s era stuff than I would at a Genesis concert.
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Post by Kapitan on Sept 17, 2021 19:54:09 GMT
This could be interesting, a Karen Dalton documentary. I can't pretend to be some huge fan, but I really like her 1971 album In My Own Time.
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