sockit
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Post by sockit on Sept 24, 2021 22:14:18 GMT
My 90s album list would have looked something like this: 1. Smash Mouth-- Astro Lounge (1999) 2. That Thing You Do--Soundtrack (1996) 3. Aerosmith-- Get a Grip (1993) 4. Metallica (1991) 5. Pearl Jam-- Ten (1991) 6. Jackyl (1992) 7. Ozzy Osborne-- No More Tears (1991) 8. Def Leppard-- Retro Active (1993) Yes I know, technically a comp, but a pretty good set. 9. Van Halen-- For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge (1991) 10. Scorpions-- Crazy World (1990) Oh man, Jackyl! What a fun band. I've seen them live a few times, and they're very entertaining. Wow! I would have liked to have seen them. Their first album was hard hitting, with plenty of humor. I remember some people saying they were trying to sound like AC/DC. You ever notice that people always get on this kick about how "this band sounds like that band", "this lead singer sounds like Robert Plant", etc, etc? Everybody is bound to sound like somebody. Whatever happened to Jackyl? Oh...right! Their follow up album...not so great. In the late 90s I picked up a comp of the better songs off both albums, plus a few live tracks. It was ok, except the live version of "Dirty Little Mind" went on for way too long!
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Post by Kapitan on Sept 24, 2021 22:28:19 GMT
You ever notice that people always get on this kick about how "this band sounds like that band", "this lead singer sounds like Robert Plant", etc, etc? Everybody is bound to sound like somebody. Absolutely. To sound like somebody is inevitable. To obviously steal or copy, that's different. There are examples of that, too. But while there are a lot of possible combination of sounds, vocal tones, musical styles, etc., let's be honest: they are not endless. True, pure, full originality is almost impossible (and would not be popular 99.9% of the time anyway, because people like what is somewhat familiar).
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Post by kds on Sept 25, 2021 1:08:57 GMT
Oh man, Jackyl! What a fun band. I've seen them live a few times, and they're very entertaining. Wow! I would have liked to have seen them. Their first album was hard hitting, with plenty of humor. I remember some people saying they were trying to sound like AC/DC. You ever notice that people always get on this kick about how "this band sounds like that band", "this lead singer sounds like Robert Plant", etc, etc? Everybody is bound to sound like somebody. Whatever happened to Jackyl? Oh...right! Their follow up album...not so great. In the late 90s I picked up a comp of the better songs off both albums, plus a few live tracks. It was ok, except the live version of "Dirty Little Mind" went on for way too long! I saw them a couple times in 2012 and 2013, and really liked some of the newer songs they played, so I picked up theif 2012 album Best in Show, and its pretty solid. I think that's their last album to date. The extended Dirty Little Mind works in person. It doesn't translate as much on CD.
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Post by B.E. on Oct 30, 2021 18:28:50 GMT
Funny thing...I've spent much of the past two weeks working in an office that blasts mainstream 90s rock. Particularly the latter half of the decade. I gotta say, it was such a nostalgia trip for me (being a '90s kid). I've mentioned liking Hootie & the Blowfish, Matchbox 20, Third Eye Blind, that sorta stuff before, and Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Chris Cornell, those guys, but then there are tons of other hits (e.g. the Wallflowers' "One Headlight") that I don't know the name of the artist and/or song that I was really enjoying, despite it CLEARLY not being on the same level as rock from the '60s and 70s. All I'm saying is, there really were some enjoyable songs then, IMO. Stuff that I'm guessing if you grew up in prior decades, you might not have appreciated. And like I said, that's understandable to an extent. Anyway, I was just surprised how much of a kick I got out of a lot of it. I hadn't really listened to much of it since I heard it on the radio at the time, so I had forgotten how enjoyable they actually are. If I find the time, I'll look up some of the titles and post them.
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Post by B.E. on Oct 30, 2021 18:36:11 GMT
Call me crazy, but here's one that came on a few times and I really dig. (And it's a connection I wouldn't have made at the time!) #15 on the US Rock chart in 1995. Led who? Edit: The bass playing really gets going later in the song.
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Post by sockit on Oct 30, 2021 19:28:09 GMT
Call me crazy, but here's one that came on a few times and I really dig. (And it's a connection I wouldn't have made at the time!) #15 on the US Rock chart in 1995. Led who? Edit: The bass playing really gets going later in the song. Wow, that made my day! I've never heard that cover before. My sister's always been a big Hootie fan; I'm surprised she never mentioned this one to me. Thanks, B.E.!
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Post by sockit on Oct 30, 2021 19:35:38 GMT
Here's a tune from 1997 that I really got into. However, I didn't learn about some of the other really fine music from Kenny Wayne Shepherd until over ten years later, when my former girlfriend Deb burned me a few of his albums.
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Post by Kapitan on Oct 30, 2021 19:39:40 GMT
Here's a tune from 1997 that I really got into. However, I didn't learn about some of the other really fine music from Kenny Wayne Shepherd until over ten years later, when my former girlfriend Deb burned me a few of his albums. He's someone I heard about pretty early on through the guitar "scene" (for lack of a better word). He was considered a young, rising star in Guitar For the Practicing Musician and magazines like that. Very talented guy, though I have to admit I didn't keep up with his career. I do see he's still at it, though.
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Post by B.E. on Oct 30, 2021 19:47:26 GMT
I was just about to say that's a nice guitar solo!
The song sounds familiar. It's pretty good. Very '90s-sounding, in a good way - back to bass, drums, guitar, and clear vocals. Not much in the way of effects. I especially love how, in the '90s, many groups dropped the '80s snare drum sound (and the propensity to mix it louder than everything else). I picked up Don Henley's '80s albums the other day, and between listening to them and McCartney's Tug of War, I'm constantly reminded of (and forced to contest with) that '80s snare sound. Why oh why?
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Post by sockit on Oct 31, 2021 15:27:31 GMT
I was just about to say that's a nice guitar solo! The song sounds familiar. It's pretty good. Very '90s-sounding, in a good way - back to bass, drums, guitar, and clear vocals. Not much in the way of effects. I especially love how, in the '90s, many groups dropped the '80s snare drum sound (and the propensity to mix it louder than everything else). I picked up Don Henley's '80s albums the other day, and between listening to them and McCartney's Tug of War, I'm constantly reminded of (and forced to contest with) that '80s snare sound. Why oh why? The 80s had some great things going on in music...and some awful things: yes that snare sound, gated drums, wall of synths, synth trumpet blasts, twangy synth guitars, etc. The way I see it, each of these things were not bad in and of themselves. Some of it sounded great, depending on the song. But it got to the point where just about every song had to incorporate those sounds. It became more of a gimmick or cliché than a style. When bands like Van Halen became more synth heavy, I started losing interest in them. The 90s saw a more intimate sound, basic instrumentation, and less or no reverb. Real guitar solos came back into the mix. The 80s were great for dance music or atmospheric electronic music that could take you into dreamland, but the 90s got us back into a more close up and personal sound.
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Post by Kapitan on Nov 3, 2021 18:13:56 GMT
I just came across a 33 1/3 podcast series (hosted by legendary hip hop producer Prince Paul) in which they bring in guests to discuss various classic albums covered by the 33 1/3 book series. Relevant to the thread, I am listening to the episode on GnR's Use Your Illusion 1&2, with Riki Rachtman and Sebastian Bach as the guests.
Prince Paul: "Is Use Your Illusion 1&2 one of the most important albums of the '90s?"
Sebastian Bach: "Important? Umm ... no."
LOL, but he's right.
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Post by kds on Nov 3, 2021 18:19:18 GMT
I just came across a 33 1/3 podcast series (hosted by legendary hip hop producer Prince Paul) in which they bring in guests to discuss various classic albums covered by the 33 1/3 book series. Relevant to the thread, I am listening to the episode on GnR's Use Your Illusion 1&2, with Riki Rachtman and Sebastian Bach as the guests.
Prince Paul: "Is Use Your Illusion 1&2 one of the most important albums of the '90s?"
Sebastian Bach: "Important? Umm ... no."
LOL, but he's right. Well, Sebastian, GNR play stadiums and arenas, and the Slave to the Grind 30 Tour is playing venues that hold a couple hundred fans. So..................
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Post by Kapitan on Nov 3, 2021 18:20:54 GMT
But he went on to explain. He wasn't saying it wasn't popular or huge, and he actually (in a later context) says that same thing: they're still huge. But his point was, if "important" means changing the music scene or genre, no. He says Appetite was their important album. He mentions Metallica's black album as an important album of the '90s.
He's a big fan, you have to take it the right way.
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Post by kds on Nov 3, 2021 18:22:03 GMT
Funny thing...I've spent much of the past two weeks working in an office that blasts mainstream 90s rock. Particularly the latter half of the decade. I gotta say, it was such a nostalgia trip for me (being a '90s kid). I've mentioned liking Hootie & the Blowfish, Matchbox 20, Third Eye Blind, that sorta stuff before, and Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Chris Cornell, those guys, but then there are tons of other hits (e.g. the Wallflowers' "One Headlight") that I don't know the name of the artist and/or song that I was really enjoying, despite it CLEARLY not being on the same level as rock from the '60s and 70s. All I'm saying is, there really were some enjoyable songs then, IMO. Stuff that I'm guessing if you grew up in prior decades, you might not have appreciated. And like I said, that's understandable to an extent. Anyway, I was just surprised how much of a kick I got out of a lot of it. I hadn't really listened to much of it since I heard it on the radio at the time, so I had forgotten how enjoyable they actually are. If I find the time, I'll look up some of the titles and post them. For me, one of the more frustrating things about the 1990s is that is the decade I should gravitate to. Those were my middle and high school years, and the start of my early adulthood and college. Yet, most of what you just listed sounds like a Dante's Inferno situation if I had to listen to that stuff at work.
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Post by kds on Nov 3, 2021 18:23:17 GMT
But he went on to explain. He wasn't saying it wasn't popular or huge, and he actually (in a later context) says that same thing: they're still huge. But his point was, if "important" means changing the music scene or genre, no. He says Appetite was their important album. He mentions Metallica's black album as an important album of the '90s.
He's a big fan, you have to take it the right way.
In that context, it certainly makes more sense. I'm just kind of used to Bach shouting off his mouth about this and that.
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