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Post by kds on Mar 15, 2021 14:04:36 GMT
Yes, it's obvious what Parks is trying to do. He's attempting to embarrass Mike Love - on his birthday - by linking him to Donald Trump. I think Parks only succeeds at making himself look like a regretful, pathetic figure who, sadly at his age, still finds it necessary to carry out vendettas...publicly. I'm glad to see that Van Dyke is still as childish as he ever was. And I'll let he still doesn't know that "over and over the crow cries uncover the cornfield" means.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Mar 30, 2021 1:31:13 GMT
New interview with Mike Love and David Beard, who discuss Feel Flows, the 60th Anniversary, and other topics:
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2021 3:42:24 GMT
Lots of meaningful answers from Mike but no more information about The Beach Boys being reunited for either an album or a tour, and yet some discussion of tribute shows and other vague things so I'm fortunately not gaming too much confidence from this particular interview in relation to The Beach Boys back on stage or in the studio together. Thank you sheriff.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Mar 30, 2021 11:42:12 GMT
Lots of meaningful answers from Mike but no more information about The Beach Boys being reunited for either an album or a tour, and yet some discussion of tribute shows and other vague things so I'm fortunately not gaming too much confidence from this particular interview in relation to The Beach Boys back on stage or in the studio together. Thank you sheriff. Yeah, Mike says, "I think there're plans to do something to mark that, but nothing specific as far as touring or anything. But maybe other acts doing our songs, maybe with us, and then so on. Maybe a TV special or something. It should be a lot of fun to bring some of these songs to life, just in different ways."
Now, both Al and Mike have mentioned "other acts" performing their songs. Al was talking about live performances. With Mike, it could mean both live performances and new recordings. Mike has always been big on others recording BB songs (see Stars & Stripes). Come to think of it, so has Al (see A Postcard From California). I get the feeling, and this is just my opinion, that Al and Mike are basing their "thoughts" about other acts performing their songs on the conversation(s) they've had together that they've mentioned as having. Who knows if it has ever been officially proposed at a BRI meeting.
And, speaking of mentioning it at an official meeting...Please start planning whatever you're going to do NOW! Seriously, are any Beach Boys doing ANYTHING right now? Or in the next several months? Start talking, start brainstorming, start exchanging exchanging ideas. Start bringing Iconic into the discussions. Don't make it another rush job - or having it endlessly delayed - after having several years to plan it.
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Post by Kapitan on Mar 30, 2021 11:50:09 GMT
Please start planning whatever you're going to do NOW! Seriously, are any Beach Boys doing ANYTHING right now? Or in the next several months? Start talking, start brainstorming, start exchanging exchanging ideas. Start bringing Iconic into the discussions. Don't make it another rush job - or having it endlessly delayed - after having several years to plan it. I'd bet they are planning for a lot of things--well into (if not beyond) the "brainstorming ... exchanging ideas" stage. I just would also bet the band isn't especially involved in that stage. Speculating, of course, but I'd guess the band's input is more along the lines of a vote on who's interested in a show or two; who's interested in a tribute show; who's interested in a tour; who's interested in an album; etc.--just something more vague. And then Iconic takes the basics and runs with half a dozen variations on each option, and then more votes, etc.
But the band wouldn't know enough details to say anything until they're firmed up. Not final til it's final, as they say.
Realistically we know what's coming: tribute special, maybe a few of them. Unlikely it's even a real tour. Highly unlikely it isn't a new album (unless it's mostly reissues and one or two new songs). I mean, we know that, don't we, all dreaming aside?
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Mar 30, 2021 12:18:39 GMT
Please start planning whatever you're going to do NOW! Seriously, are any Beach Boys doing ANYTHING right now? Or in the next several months? Start talking, start brainstorming, start exchanging ideas. Start bringing Iconic into the discussions. Don't make it another rush job - or having it endlessly delayed - after having several years to plan it. I'd bet they are planning for a lot of things--well into (if not beyond) the "brainstorming ... exchanging ideas" stage. I just would also bet the band isn't especially involved in that stage. Speculating, of course, but I'd guess the band's input is more along the lines of a vote on who's interested in a show or two; who's interested in a tribute show; who's interested in a tour; who's interested in an album; etc.--just something more vague. And then Iconic takes the basics and runs with half a dozen variations on each option, and then more votes, etc.
But the band wouldn't know enough details to say anything until they're firmed up. Not final til it's final, as they say.
Realistically we know what's coming: tribute special, maybe a few of them. Unlikely it's even a real tour. Highly unlikely it isn't a new album (unless it's mostly reissues and one or two new songs). I mean, we know that, don't we, all dreaming aside?
I'm not sure what I think about the negotiations/input beyond the principals just voting. I'd be very surprised if Mike didn't have his say. Doesn't he always? Al's probably been more vocal than any Beach Boy over the last couple of years. I think his touring with Brian has given him more status, in his eyes at least. Will Melinda go quietly, that is, just voting without advocating for Brian's needs and wants.
Even with a tribute show or shows, don't they soon have to choose and lock up the guest artists and the venues? And, if it's televised or turned into a documentary or a CD/DVD or whatever, wouldn't they soon have to address all of those aspects? Yes, I guess a studio album is the biggest longshot. Of all of the possibilities being discussed...whenever, that one has the most questions and obstacles. I can't believe, at least for $$$$$$$$ reasons, that there wouldn't be some kind of a new release. The Beach Boys With The Royal Philharmonic Orchestra - Volume 2?
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Post by Kapitan on Mar 30, 2021 12:30:04 GMT
Yes, Mike and others have always had their say on details--and that's partly why they brought in Iconic. I'm not suggesting the guys are being pushed into the dark, but rather that they're probably involved in setting basic parameters, but not the nitty gritty. The professionals were hired to handle strategy and work out details.
My guess would be those parameters are roughly understood now, and include a tribute show and maybe a few shows, with a TV/streaming special understood to come from those. That would explain why everyone has said something along those lines, while nobody has said album. But finalizing everything couldn't have been done with any certainty before now due to pandemic uncertainties.
Re your comment about $$$ with a hypothetical new album, keep in mind albums tend to lose money these days, with touring or merch as the primary revenue drivers. I'd bet they make more money from a streaming concert special or new documentary (which that original Iconic story mentioned as planned), based on licensing the streaming rights, than they would on a new album.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2021 16:08:38 GMT
I'll tell you this ,the add some music to your day was just perfect because it showcased the vocal talents of 3 of the surviving beach boys singing beautiful and important parts and it had the great David marks playing beautiful guitar and honorary beach boy Jeff playing nice guitar and all the children and this was very rich and meaningful and beautiful and not fake or artificial or contrived ,and I can't believe it made any money and if it did make a dime it was for charity so.... If Bryan had been involved and that video had ended with a post pandemic photo of the 5 beach boys arm-in-arm I would have been a 100% content
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Post by kds on Mar 30, 2021 19:55:23 GMT
Pretty good interview. No real information on the 60th, but I'm sure that's all being ironed out (and possibly waiting for this pandemic thing too). Better than the usual Mike interviews from the County Gazette promoting one of The Beach Boys summertime shows.
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Post by kds on Apr 20, 2021 18:16:08 GMT
Some of the 2021 East Coast dates are being pushed to 2022, like the Hershey show. It's interesting that the official website is listing "MIKE LOVE" with every show. www.thebeachboys.com/events
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Post by Kapitan on Apr 20, 2021 18:22:30 GMT
Some of the 2021 East Coast dates are being pushed to 2022, like the Hershey show. It's interesting that the official website is listing "MIKE LOVE" with every show. www.thebeachboys.com/eventsThat is interesting. I wonder--PURE SPECULATION--is there some change forthcoming related to the license/brand name? I mean, with Iconic taking control, might there be something coming that restricts the use of The Beach Boys as a standalone name to reunion-type events and shows?
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Post by kds on Apr 20, 2021 18:33:52 GMT
Some of the 2021 East Coast dates are being pushed to 2022, like the Hershey show. It's interesting that the official website is listing "MIKE LOVE" with every show. www.thebeachboys.com/eventsThat is interesting. I wonder--PURE SPECULATION--is there some change forthcoming related to the license/brand name? I mean, with Iconic taking control, might there be something coming that restricts the use of The Beach Boys as a standalone name to reunion-type events and shows? That's what I'm wondering.
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Post by Kapitan on Apr 20, 2021 19:36:41 GMT
I don't have some major grudge against Mike and Bruce for carrying on under the name--after all, it's not as if it were stolen or something, but rather was voted on and agreed to--but I definitely see the logic behind keeping clear that The Beach Boys refers to work done by the principals.
If Al's "Beach Boys Family & Friends" detracted from or confused people about what's legit, or if Brian Wilson's UK Smile-era freebie did, then it's hard to argue that a band actually called The Beach Boys might not do the same (if that band is also going to occasionally perform, record, etc.).
Granted, that probably will hurt Mike's business going forward: Mike Love's Beach Bash (or whatever) certainly wouldn't be the draw that The Beach Boys would. But I'd guess the Iconic team can show him in dollars and cents why it's worth it, how he'll make up more on the other side.
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Post by kds on Apr 20, 2021 19:55:39 GMT
I don't have some major grudge against Mike and Bruce for carrying on under the name--after all, it's not as if it were stolen or something, but rather was voted on and agreed to--but I definitely see the logic behind keeping clear that The Beach Boys refers to work done by the principals.
If Al's "Beach Boys Family & Friends" detracted from or confused people about what's legit, or if Brian Wilson's UK Smile-era freebie did, then it's hard to argue that a band actually called The Beach Boys might not do the same (if that band is also going to occasionally perform, record, etc.).
Granted, that probably will hurt Mike's business going forward: Mike Love's Beach Bash (or whatever) certainly wouldn't be the draw that The Beach Boys would. But I'd guess the Iconic team can show him in dollars and cents why it's worth it, how he'll make up more on the other side. I've bought tickets three times to see Mike and Bruce, and I think it's a high quality show. I could see them still incorporate the BB name "Mike Love's Beach Boys" or "The Beach Boys Featuring Mike Love," something like that.
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Post by Kapitan on Apr 20, 2021 19:59:14 GMT
I've bought tickets three times to see Mike and Bruce, and I think it's a high quality show. I could see them still incorporate the BB name "Mike Love's Beach Boys" or "The Beach Boys Featuring Mike Love," something like that. Yeah, I don't disagree. I didn't mean it that way. Just that if the principals are going to try to really emphasize their own joint projects more effectively, it makes sense to not force the name into double-duty in a situation most (casual) people don't understand. It is hard to charge $100 for one Beach Boys show and then $25 for another Beach Boys show, you know?
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