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Post by B.E. on Jul 11, 2020 17:58:41 GMT
Uncomfortable and depressing.
Great job by the interviewer, though. Good questions. And I appreciate Brian's openness.
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Post by B.E. on Jul 13, 2020 14:41:34 GMT
So, this happened.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Jul 19, 2020 18:57:01 GMT
Brian Wilson's Wall Of Sound:
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Post by The Cincinnati Kid on Jul 30, 2020 17:22:52 GMT
This might be of interest to kds
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Post by kds on Jul 30, 2020 17:32:53 GMT
This might be of interest to kds That was actually pretty good, thanks. I wonder if fans would be less harsh on the Rippers version if Dennis were singing, and not Uncle Jesse.
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Post by Kapitan on Jul 30, 2020 17:40:16 GMT
I wonder if fans would be less harsh on the Rippers version if Dennis were singing, and not Uncle Jesse. I do not wonder at all: they absolutely would. They would probably talk about how Dennis was able to brilliantly import some emotional depth into this newer, typically shallow genre.
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Post by The Cincinnati Kid on Jul 30, 2020 17:44:12 GMT
This might be of interest to kds That was actually pretty good, thanks. I wonder if fans would be less harsh on the Rippers version if Dennis were singing, and not Uncle Jesse. Or at least some type of duet. I'm like you in thinking the backing track is actually really good. I don't even mind Stamos' vocal, for that matter.
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Post by kds on Jul 30, 2020 17:47:34 GMT
I wonder if fans would be less harsh on the Rippers version if Dennis were singing, and not Uncle Jesse. I do not wonder at all: they absolutely would. They would probably talk about how Dennis was able to brilliantly import some emotional depth into this newer, typically shallow genre. That does sound like something I'd read on past forums.
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Post by kds on Jul 30, 2020 17:49:14 GMT
That was actually pretty good, thanks. I wonder if fans would be less harsh on the Rippers version if Dennis were singing, and not Uncle Jesse. Or at least some type of duet. I'm like you in thinking the backing track is actually really good. I don't even mind Stamos' vocal, for that matter. I'm also a fan of power ballads, so I've always liked this arrangement of Forever. But, anything related to Stamos seems to be a lightning rod among BB fans in general.
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Post by Kapitan on Jul 30, 2020 17:58:07 GMT
It is a perfectly good power ballad, within the context of what power ballads were. Obviously, if you just hate all power ballads, then there isn't really any chance you'll like it, much like the disco "Here Comes the Night." But if you're into late 80s and early 90s power ballads, this fits right alongside them.
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Post by kds on Jul 30, 2020 18:01:30 GMT
It is a perfectly good power ballad, within the context of what power ballads were. Obviously, if you just hate all power ballads, then there isn't really any chance you'll like it, much like the disco "Here Comes the Night." But if you're into late 80s and early 90s power ballads, this fits right alongside them. That's true. And judging from my several years participating in the Battle of the Bands section of the Brian Wilson Forum, power ballads are not well liked in the BB world.
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Post by Kapitan on Jul 30, 2020 18:05:18 GMT
I think that era's hard rock scene overall is generally not well liked among Beach Boys fans. There are clearly exceptions, but I mean if you had to make a statement about "on average," you're going to get people mostly, predictably, into 60s rock and roll, 70s pop and rock and roll, the classic rock canon, and when they venture into more recent decades, often with legacy artists or groups with really strong nods to those aforementioned types. So the kinds of groups that did power ballads just aren't usually in that universe.
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Post by Kapitan on Jul 30, 2020 18:07:33 GMT
That said, I will also say it has been interesting watching younger Beach Boys fans who didn't experience either the earlier decades of the band OR the latter ones. And so a lot of context is lost, both for worse and for better.
You get people who can hear BB85 or BW88 and not think "ugh, 80s DX7!" etc. The baggage all people carry from their own pasts just doesn't exist for them, just like I'm hearing the 60s and 70s music from the perspective of someone born in '76 and not having been around for it.
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Post by B.E. on Aug 6, 2020 19:45:47 GMT
Posted by Rocker at SSMB. In this 1979 segment for PM Magazine, co-host John Walls profiles the enduring popularity and recording success of the Beach Boys. The legendary rock band played a concert at the Beaumont Civic Center on October 2, 1979. Before the show, Walls speaks with fans about their interest in the Beach Boys. The segment also includes comments from band members Al Jardine and Bruce Johnston made during a pre-concert press conference. PM Magazine was a local news and entertainment television program broadcast on Beaumont's KFDM-TV in from late 1970s to the mid-1980s. This segment aired on November 8, 1979.texasarchive.org/2017_00527My two main takeaways: 1) The Beach Boys were planning their next two albums? and 2) That fan in the beginning is in her early 30s?
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Post by Kapitan on Aug 6, 2020 20:12:58 GMT
2) That fan in the beginning is in her early 30s? One thing that you will notice if you look at older footage is that people looked far older, far earlier in previous decades. Likely reasons: - People smoked more - Exercise for its own sake was much less common until the 70s and 80s - Nutrition wasn't understood as well - Maybe most of all, people "became adults" much earlier and didn't really try to look young. Now you'll see women in their 50s in skinny jeans with fashionable rips, in halter tops or low cut tops, dressed almost indistinguishably from their daughters (or granddaughters). In earlier generations, you were far more likely to be married by 22, working full time or having kids, and separated from youth culture. The Boomers were the first generation that really didn't necessarily want to grow up; GenX REALLY doesn't want to. My grandpa (Greatest Generation, born 1911) wore a shirt and tie almost every day--at home, after his retirement.
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