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Post by lonelysummer on Sept 1, 2023 5:23:02 GMT
This may be premature, but I can't think of anything great we've gotten BB-related this year. Last year, we had Sail on Sailor. Year before that, Feel Flows. Am I safe in assuming there are no major releases planned for the end of 2023?
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Post by kds on Sept 1, 2023 11:24:09 GMT
Nothing that I'm aware of.
Although, I can't really say 2023 looks to be a disappointing year, Beach Boys wise, because I really had no expectations.
I think we knew Sail On was the last big archival release for a bit.
The one thing I was hoping for, and it could still happen, was an update on the documentary.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Sept 1, 2023 11:58:12 GMT
They (whoever?) could've done something with The Beach Boys In Concert, a 50th Anniversary reissue. Maybe:
1. Make it a newly-remastered 2CD set by adding another 20 songs to the package. How great would that be? 40 songs from that great band in 1973.
2. Re-sequence the songs (as close as you can) like a typical 1973 concert.
3. Take the time and care and do something with the applause and linking of the tracks. One of the biggest flaws of The Beach Boys In Concert is how the songs don't flow from one to another smoothly. The volume is all over the place.
How expensive would've that been to accomplish?
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Post by Kapitan on Sept 1, 2023 12:10:49 GMT
I can't exactly say I was disappointed in 2023, except by mirroring KDS's comments: the 2022 documentary is still pending. So I would have hoped that would have come out this year (and it still could...). But I don't recall anything announced for '23, and I wasn't expecting anything from '23. Even a reissue of In Concert, as Sheriff John Stone mentioned, that wouldn't really move the needle for me. For one, we got a lot of live material on Sail On Sailor, so it's a little redundant. Some people like getting into the differences between nights, etc., and I used to be that way with Zeppelin shows in particular. But for me, a Nov. 1972 concert is sufficient. I doubt they'd recoup the cost of such an album. So for me, more than disappointment, it's just sad resignation: there isn't a lot more coming, at least for a couple of years. And after that, Love You/Adult Child notwithstanding, I'm nowhere near as excited for the archival projects yet to come.
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Post by kds on Sept 1, 2023 12:20:52 GMT
Thats where I am with In Concert. The Carnegie Hall Show on the boxset is arguably an upgrade. I'm slightly surprised they didn't issue it as a standalone release. But live albums don't seem to be their thing, as least when compared to some other legacy artists whose live albums outnumber their studio albums.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Sept 1, 2023 12:31:37 GMT
So for me, more than disappointment, it's just sad resignation: there isn't a lot more coming, at least for a couple of years. And after that, Love You/Adult Child notwithstanding, I'm nowhere near as excited for the archival projects yet to come. I'm very much looking forward to a Brian's Back boxed set including 15 Big Ones, The Beach Boys Love You, and Adult Child. I'm also very curious if they will include M.I.U. Album (I would). And, yeah, we're probably at least 3-4 years away from such a set.
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Post by Kapitan on Sept 1, 2023 12:54:37 GMT
So for me, more than disappointment, it's just sad resignation: there isn't a lot more coming, at least for a couple of years. And after that, Love You/Adult Child notwithstanding, I'm nowhere near as excited for the archival projects yet to come. I'm very much looking forward to a Brian's Back boxed set including 15 Big Ones, The Beach Boys Love You, and Adult Child. I'm also very curious if they will include M.I.U. Album (I would). And, yeah, we're probably at least 3-4 years away from such a set. See, I was wondering the grouping. I think MIU's inclusion would depend largely on whether and how they plan to release LA and KTSA. I could imagine all three being digital-only, single-year releases. Or maybe they could be grouped (in various ways). But 1976-77 certainly have Brian's Back as a theme, with 15BO and Love You as the centerpiece albums and Adult/Child as the unreleased (and narrative) goodies. With MIU begun but not finished in '77, they could try to jam it in there, or hold it back for other various release options. I do believe a Brian's Back release is the next--and possibly last--major one with any kind of deluxe physical packaging, etc.
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Post by B.E. on Sept 1, 2023 13:23:50 GMT
I think Brian's Back will be the last deluxe release in this quasi-copyright extension series, but it might be digital only or it might not happen at all. So, if we get it, I think it might include things recorded or released as late as 1980 or 1981 if it's something they want released (or re-released). I could see them including something like "Stevie" on the backend.
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Post by Kapitan on Sept 1, 2023 13:30:16 GMT
I think Brian's Back will be the last deluxe release in this quasi-copyright extension series, but it might be digital only or it might not happen at all. So, if we get it, I think it might include things recorded or released as late as 1980 if it's something they want released (or re-released). I believe there is enough of a story around it that they can market a physical release. Though it also will be such a Brian-heavy focus (as opposed to the egalitarian narratives of Sunshine Tomorrow, Feel Flows, SOS) that band dynamics/support for it might be interesting. I mean, so was Smile Sessions, but that was such a no-brainer because of its legendary music. Love You has a cult following, Adult/Child is interesting to Brian obsessives. But Smile, they ain't. Still, I can see a deluxe package there (assuming the world still works that way in 3-4 years). After that, I'm guessing digital-only.
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Post by B.E. on Sept 1, 2023 13:39:37 GMT
I'm definitely leaning towards it happening and it being a physical release, but I'm just accounting for some of the whispers that some of the recent releases very nearly didn't happen. I don't think sales of Feel Flows or Sail On Sailor were particularly robust. After that, though? I don't think there will be any more releases in this series.
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Post by B.E. on Sept 1, 2023 13:44:35 GMT
Did we ever hear anything from an insider about a live/In Concert release? Even just throwing it out as a possibility? I thought we did. Or maybe I'm mixing that up with the live stuff we've already gotten (and the hype thereof) and it was only ever fan speculation.
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Post by Kapitan on Sept 1, 2023 13:45:44 GMT
I'm definitely leaning towards it happening and it being a physical release, but I'm just accounting for some of the whispers that some of the recent releases very nearly didn't happen. I don't think sales of Feel Flows or Sail On, Sailor were particularly robust. After that, though? I don't think there will be any more releases in this series. I agree with that, in terms of physical releases. I do think they'll keep doing digital-only, just for the copyright reasons. Interesting re sales. I honestly have no idea, I've never really paid attention to it. Were they poor even compared to other comparable deluxe physical sets? (Because everybody has poor sales compared to Taylor Swift albums or something.) If nothing else, they were both quite well received critically. Reviews, especially of Feel Flows, were very strong.
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Post by lonelysummer on Sept 1, 2023 22:40:39 GMT
It's really hard for me, a lifelong record (aka vinyl), cassette and compact disc collector, to adjust to this digital download only/streaming trend, but everyone is doing it. I guess I'm supposed to rip the files to a CDR, and make my own cover art, liner notes, etc. Or better yet, get someone to make a custom vinyl pressing for me. In the old days, I would invite a friend over to peruse my record collection. What do people know? Invite others to look at their Spotify playlists? There was something personal, hands-on about record collecting, even cd collecting. Any projections here on how much longer CD's will be manufactured? I'm guessing vinyl is here to stay; with ever escalating prices.
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Post by Kapitan on Sept 1, 2023 22:52:36 GMT
In the old days, I would invite a friend over to peruse my record collection. What do people know? Invite others to look at their Spotify playlists? I find myself in gatherings where that's not far off. Or people taking turns cuing up songs on YouTube. I think the idea of "having" music is increasingly foreign to people. The assumption is that everyone has access to everything, so it's less about what's in your possession and more what's on your mind lately. So yeah, people just bring up their playlists on whatever cloud-based platform, or pull it up from YouTube. It's weird for me, too, because I grew up with cassettes and CDs. (Not really vinyl. My parents had that, but it was pretty old-fashioned by the time I was buying music, and not yet cool again for its alleged warmth, sound quality, nostalgia, magic, etc.) But I have to admit, there is something nice about not having more and more heavy and unwieldy shelves' worth of discs, not to mention the hauling around required to share.
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Post by lonelysummer on Sept 1, 2023 23:20:57 GMT
In the old days, I would invite a friend over to peruse my record collection. What do people know? Invite others to look at their Spotify playlists? I find myself in gatherings where that's not far off. Or people taking turns cuing up songs on YouTube. I think the idea of "having" music is increasingly foreign to people. The assumption is that everyone has access to everything, so it's less about what's in your possession and more what's on your mind lately. So yeah, people just bring up their playlists on whatever cloud-based platform, or pull it up from YouTube. It's weird for me, too, because I grew up with cassettes and CDs. (Not really vinyl. My parents had that, but it was pretty old-fashioned by the time I was buying music, and not yet cool again for its alleged warmth, sound quality, nostalgia, magic, etc.) But I have to admit, there is something nice about not having more and more heavy and unwieldy shelves' worth of discs, not to mention the hauling around required to share. For me, it's like going back to the days of taping songs off the radio. I could fit two albums worth of music on one cassette. Yet I always desired to have the actual record. There was something special about that. I still have some of my old radio cassettes, but I pull them out now to hear the announcers voices. I'm a dinosaur, and I accept that the music biz is not trying to serve over 50's like me. It's sad, but it's reality.
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