According to A. Doe, Landlocked was going to consist of: Loop De Loop, Susie Cincinnati, San Miguel, HELP Is On The Way, Take A Load Off Your Feet, Carnival (aka Over The Waves), I Just Got My Pay, Good Time, Big Sur, Lady, When Girls Get Together, Lookin' At Tomorrow, and 'Til I Die.
I'll be shocked if we don't get the alternate "Big Sur". That's never been officially released, right? We'll get a bump in sound quality, at least.
I don't think so. Was Carnival / Over the Waves released?
If it's done, packaged, the whole thing, what possible motivation could there be from the label not to release it? I'm not a fan of conspiracy theories, but it does seem like the group is holding this up. And, I can't think of a good reason why.
If Edelson is, in his words, the official BRI consultant, then he would or SHOULD know why it is currently not scheduled for release.
I'm sure he does, then. Doesn't mean it's appropriate for him to tell all of us. His sudden appearance on SSMB does make it seem like he's trying to rally support against whoever or whatever is holding it up.
Edit: Which is utterly absurd, IMO. But, this is the world in which we live.
Wouldn't the most likely reason for the holdup be the obvious cause of so many other holdups? The pandemic has been the excuse for dozens of delayed albums, to say nothing of other projects. Whether that's all of it, part of it, or none of it, I wouldn't know. But it's a pretty reasonable starting point.
That said, if it is both a commercially viable box set and a copyright release a la Sunshine Tomorrow, obviously their window for delay is limited by the calendar.
The calendar/copyright angle will be revealing. Obviously, they've shot much higher than a digital release, so we'll just have to wait and see how it all plays out. But, man, these posts by Howie are disheartening. The more he posts, the less it resembles your typical 'hype' posts.
I probably agree with you on both counts, and like I said I'm hesitant to entertain conspiracy theories, but we've got more than a starting point to work with. Now we've got someone directly involved commenting and raising concerns. That's all we've got, for now. I'm looking forward to the announcement of a release date. That will put this to rest. We were wondering if we'd pay for a 5 disc box set - pay or not, I want to hear this stuff!
I have to say, if there really is no set release date, that worries me more than the date having been postponed. Postponed, but on the calendar, is much more palatable.
On the other hand, it seems inevitable that it will come out at this point...sometime or other. You don't spend whatever they must have spent in letting Mssrs. Boyd and Linett plus whatever other staff doing the music, then get Mr. Edelson to interview all of the principals, and presumably get the package itself designed, etc., and then scrap it. At least I hope you don't. (I know the Beach Boys might ... but the record label!?)
Reading between the lines of Howie's update, something that is sticking in my craw is the idea that this box set has the potential to change the Beach Boys narrative and yet there are obstacles preventing its release. Perhaps there are parties who realize the game-changing nature of the set, and don't want to upset the apple cart. Stick with the current narrative, it's more comfortable, it's more lucrative overall than what this one box set would generate, it's what they want the legacy to be based on... or something.
I personally doubt there's game-changing potential here for the greater public. What would be the game-changer?
1) Introducing the larger public or a new generation to a part of the catalogue fans consider underappreciated. This is a legitimate possibility, though it begs the question of what percentage of the larger public or new generation outside of existing Beach Boys fans will buy or even hear any of this. Will the marketing be so broad as to really push it onto some new segment? Seems unlikely.
2) Introducing new music. Again, while we know this period produced a lot of unreleased and sometimes very good music, we also have had at least an album's worth dribble out on subsequent releases or box sets over the years. While this is the Beach Boys, I highly doubt there are many, if any, great unreleased songs here.
3) Introducing new mixes or outtakes to known music that will change even fans' opinions dramatically. Highly doubtful.
What else could there be? Where is the game-changer?
lonelysummer: Shoot, i gave up on new music in the 90's.
Sept 18, 2021 2:18:38 GMT
Kapitan: Anyone want to kick off the next year's music to discuss? Pick anything except 1976, 1963, 1989, 2002, or 2010.
Sept 18, 2021 11:22:42 GMT
Kapitan: If not, I'll post a new one later today.
Sept 18, 2021 11:25:26 GMT
jk: Sounds good to me, Cap'n.
Sept 18, 2021 11:50:32 GMT
carllove: If you want to pick one today, I can do one Monday. Gotta start getting ready to power wash my deck this morning! Did get my thoughts in on 2010 this morning. Rough year!
Sept 18, 2021 13:04:24 GMT
carllove: Actually Kapitan, my husband is still sleeping, so I will choose a year this morning. It will be 1972.
Sept 18, 2021 13:14:07 GMT
B.E.: '63-72 - not just the best years for the Beach Boys but for popular music.
Sept 18, 2021 13:25:18 GMT
Kapitan: Great year for music!
Sept 18, 2021 14:34:33 GMT