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Post by Kapitan on Sept 7, 2023 21:09:26 GMT
I had forgotten that Brian sang that lead vocal part on "Looking Down The Coast". That song and "Santa Ana Winds" would've been welcome editions on L.A. (Light Album), intertwined with "Full Sail" and "Goin' South". I recall Looking Down the Coast and Santa Ana Winds were supposed to be part of a trilogy. Was the third song ever written/recorded, or is there a song I'm forgetting? If I'm not mistaken, the Monterey section was considered the middle song of the three, though I don't think it exists separately from Looking Down the Coast. I think the trilogy was conceived, but never really recorded/presented as such: just the two songs, the first of which has two "songlets." But I may be mistaken, because I am increasingly old and senile. And if that isn't sufficiently lacking confidence, how about this? I've often had the vague recollection of hearing that actually the older "California Feelin" was considered a part of the trilogy (making it a quadrilogy if you count "Monterey" separately). But that also just might be my poor old brain trying to recall what composed the three songs... (In truth, I am relatively certain--75%?--that it's "Looking Down the Coast," "Monterey," and "Santa Ana Winds.")
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Post by B.E. on Sept 21, 2023 1:03:14 GMT
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Post by carllove on Sept 22, 2023 17:00:40 GMT
Just ran across this today while I had YouTube on in the background as I was working on the couch. Needless to say, work stopped for awhile. Brian was so engaged and sang on every song. Love the more intimate setting too. How magical it must have been to be there!
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Post by AGD on Sept 22, 2023 19:56:10 GMT
Rock & Roll Fantasy Band Camp, Hollywood, February 16th 2008.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Oct 27, 2023 11:15:42 GMT
A fascinating piece. Obviously Brian was troubled (and mad about something) at this time and clearly didn't want to be giving this interview, yet there is a degree of "normalness" that comes through the way he talks and the way he answers the questions in complete, thoughtful sentences:
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Oct 27, 2023 22:10:33 GMT
Brian at the 1987 Grammy Awards:
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Nov 1, 2023 20:15:32 GMT
The Official Live Video :
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Nov 14, 2023 1:59:47 GMT
2002 Carl Wilson Foundation Benefit:
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Post by jk on Nov 16, 2023 13:08:49 GMT
I posted this at EH to a stony silence -- maybe it will get more joy here.
"Sumahama (version two)" is track 5 of side 1 of the LP Tropical Sounds (CBS-Sony YAPC 133; Japan, Summer 1979):
"This Japanese sampler is unique in that it includes an alternate, and otherwise unreleased, mix of Sumahama. Unlike the commercially released version, the song here features the sounds of breaking waves in several places and ends with approximately 20 seconds of wave sounds. No explanation is yet available for this oddity."
(From Brad Elliott's Surf's Up, pp. 331 and 332 in my copy)
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Post by Kapitan on Nov 16, 2023 13:17:38 GMT
"Joy" would not be the word I'd use on any mix of "Sumahama." But at least I spelled it correctly this time, which is a step up from my norm.
On this particular version, though, I will say that as a rule, I don't like sound effects in my music. To me, it always sounds gimmicky, corny. Cars and motorcycles revving, waves crashing (or cars crashing!), amusement park noise, laughter. I don't like it from the Beach Boys, the Beatles, or Zappa. I just don't like it!
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Nov 16, 2023 17:42:46 GMT
That's quite the rarity there, jk. Not only have I never heard it, I never even heard of it. Using sound effects (in this case, waves) on "Sumahama" isn't a bad idea. The problem is with the implementing. Unfortunately, on this track, it's embarrassing. It sounds like somebody literally grafted a cheesy wave sound effect onto the track in one quick take - and never listened to the final product to test the levels. Amateur high school stuff.
I can't say I have a problem with using sound effects on songs. Off the top of my head I can think of some that were effective - "Wishing You Were Here" (Chicago), a few Beatles' songs, and a bunch of Pink Floyd tracks. And then there's The Doors' "Riders On The Storm" with a great use of rain and thunder by engineer, Bruce Botnick:
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Nov 18, 2023 13:00:06 GMT
What a band! Other than Mike and Bruce, are any of these guys still in...The Beach Boys?
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Post by Kapitan on Nov 18, 2023 13:24:14 GMT
Nope. Obviously the other principals were only in it for that tour, so Brian, Al, and David were out right away. Of Brian's band, none ever were before or again other than that one tour, with the exception of Foskett, who had been both before and after, but unfortunately was forced out by his health issues. And Cowsill and Totten, the C50 backing musicians from Mike's band, were pushed out earlier this year.
So no, it's just Mike and Bruce from the C50 band.
And Brian's band, well, there is no Brian's band anymore, so nobody is in that anymore either.
Al and Probyn are both in Al's band, such as it is.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Nov 18, 2023 14:33:18 GMT
I'm probably in a small minority of fans, especially music fans who have enjoyed the professional Mike & Bruce shows over the years, but one of my biggest disappointments as a Beach Boys' diehard is the way "voting to give Mike the touring license" was handled. I wish Brian Wilson and Carl Wilson's estate's goal would've valued putting AS MANY Beach Boys on stage as possible. You could also take it one step further and include the overall configuration. Their votes or the parameters set could've made that happen. I'm making the assumption that Al Jardine and a healthy David Marks would've gladly accepted a place in the band, and that might've (probably would've) entailed reducing the number of shows played significantly. Many would argue or dismiss this opinion, but maybe there would've even been a way for Brian Wilson to have his solo records and - AND - tour The Beach Boys. For years, Brian's solo concert setlists were very similar to Mike & Bruce's. And, for a long time, at least health-wise, Brian, Al, and David were ready, willing, and able to tour.
Obviously, Mike got his way, and Brian sold out his friend (Al) and the legacy of the touring band. Go with the $$$$$$$$$$. And, no hassles. Can't ignore that. Just give Mike what he wants and sit back and...collect check. And the fans? They'll keep coming. Oh, some'll complain, but they'll keep coming.
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Post by Kapitan on Nov 18, 2023 15:55:56 GMT
I think that trying to get everyone involved would have been more likely to end in some kind of paralysis or splitup again, as opposed to a consistent product out there on the road.
If you're pushing to ensure a larger number of principals involved, then you're going to have to assume they're all getting significant say in how the tours and shows are handled: how many shows, what kinds of shows, what kinds of travel, how many and who for backing musicians, what kind of setlists, etc.
One very significant benefit of the current arrangement has been that the act could be very efficient and professional, because it was basically all down to one guy's opinion. Like the results, hate the results, or something in-between, there were no squabbles or meltdowns because the buck stopped with Mike and everyone involved knew it.
Throw everyone together and include everyone's preferences and I'm afraid you just don't have a functional operation anymore. You'd have gridlock.
I know I say it all the time in these kinds of posts, but I think it's true: if the band wanted to be together, they'd have been together.
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