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Post by kds on Apr 13, 2023 15:25:54 GMT
It's interesting that the song was rewritten to remove drug references, yet "They trip through the day and waste all their thoughts at night" remained.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Apr 13, 2023 17:24:10 GMT
This is one you could file under misheard lyrics...by me. In order for me to make sense out of this song and specifically the lyrics (kind of like Kapitan was referring to), I thought - unintentionally - that they were singing "But I had to find it by myself." Not have. Different tenses. Big difference. It sounded to me that Brian or Al or whoever already saw the people doing it alone, isolating their heads, staying in their safety zones, etc. and NOW he figured it out, NOW he knows the answer, NOW he can come home. If I heard/hear "but I have to find out", then that means he hasn't really begun the journey, he hasn't found the answer by himself...yet.
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Post by Kapitan on Apr 13, 2023 17:51:50 GMT
I agree that that change would affect the sentiment somewhat, but I don't think it changes my gripe. Either way, if you "had to" or "have to" find out by yourself, how can you tell someone else that he can't "do it alone"? How can the singer do it (or have done it) alone if the other person can't?
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Apr 13, 2023 17:56:26 GMT
I agree that that change would affect the sentiment somewhat, but I don't think it changes my gripe. Either way, if you "had to" or "have to" find out by yourself, how can you tell someone else that he can't "do it alone"? How can the singer do it (or have done it) alone if the other person can't? Yes, I see what you mean, but, frankly I never thought of that. Until now.
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Post by B.E. on Apr 13, 2023 18:07:07 GMT
I never picked up on that either. Thanks, Kapitan!
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Post by Kapitan on Apr 13, 2023 18:23:40 GMT
Quite honestly, I'd never thought of it until I wrote out the lyrics, either. And I've always loved the song, and still do. It's just one of those strange little details of song lyrics that pop out when you focus on them, rather than the song as a whole.
(It really is one of my favorite songs on the album: brilliantly arranged. Though on this album, almost every song is one of my favorite songs on the album...)
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Post by kds on Apr 13, 2023 19:56:01 GMT
Quite honestly, I'd never thought of it until I wrote out the lyrics, either. And I've always loved the song, and still do. It's just one of those strange little details of song lyrics that pop out when you focus on them, rather than the song as a whole. (It really is one of my favorite songs on the album: brilliantly arranged. Though on this album, almost every song is one of my favorite songs on the album...) I really like how the lead vocals are shared between Mike, Al, and Brian on this one.
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Post by Kapitan on Apr 18, 2023 13:58:27 GMT
Track #10: Here Today (B. Wilson, T. Asher)
It starts with just a little glance, now Right away you're thinkin' 'bout romance, now You know you oughta take it slower But you just can't wait to get to know her A brand-new love affair is such a beautiful thing But if you're not careful, think about the pain it can bring
It makes you feel so bad It makes your heart feel sad It makes your days go wrong It makes your nights so long You've got to keep in mind love is here today and it's gone tomorrow it's here and gone so fast
Right now you're thinkin' she's perfection This time is really an exception Well, you know I hate to be a downer But I'm the guy she left before you found her Well, I'm not saying you won't have a good love with her But I keep on remembering things like they were
She made me feel so bad She made my heart feel sad She made my days go wrong She made my nights so long You've got to keep in mind love is here today and it's gone (etc.)
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Post by Kapitan on Apr 18, 2023 18:38:50 GMT
I'm not sure how much of this is the lyrics versus the marriage of the lyrics to this brilliant track, but I love this one. Yet it feels--maybe more than anything else on the album--like a Mike Love lyric to me. It's very simple, very straight-ahead. There are no really complex thoughts, and there is no complex language. It rhymes "now" with "now," for example. It has bad/sad, long/wrong. It's just, I dunno, very Mike Love.
And yet the credit on this one is B. Wilson/T. Asher.
The lyrics really do work, though. They sound great as part of this great track.
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Post by kds on Apr 18, 2023 18:56:01 GMT
I was actually going to post earlier that I used to think Mike wrote this.
The first two lines, in particular, are similar to his lyrical style from Fun Fun Fun (ending each line with "now.").
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Post by Barco on Apr 20, 2023 23:15:20 GMT
I'm not sure how much of this is the lyrics versus the marriage of the lyrics to this brilliant track, but I love this one . Yet it feels--maybe more than anything else on the album--like a Mike Love lyric to me. It's very simple, very straight-ahead. There are no really complex thoughts, and there is no complex language. It rhymes "now" with "now," for example. It has bad/sad, long/wrong. It's just, I dunno, very Mike Love. And yet the credit on this one is B. Wilson/T. Asher. The lyrics really do work, though. They sound great as part of this great track. I agree with all said above. It is, as are many other The Beach Boys songs, a good example of how 'basic' or simple lyrics about simple subjects can work well. The biggest factor on my liking of this one, though, is the relatability. In fact I'd say that Pet Sounds is one of, or maybe even the most consistently relatable album in existence - especially for young men like myself and, of course, once young men.
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Post by Kapitan on Apr 20, 2023 23:49:19 GMT
I'm not sure how much of this is the lyrics versus the marriage of the lyrics to this brilliant track, but I love this one . Yet it feels--maybe more than anything else on the album--like a Mike Love lyric to me. It's very simple, very straight-ahead. There are no really complex thoughts, and there is no complex language. It rhymes "now" with "now," for example. It has bad/sad, long/wrong. It's just, I dunno, very Mike Love. And yet the credit on this one is B. Wilson/T. Asher. The lyrics really do work, though. They sound great as part of this great track. I agree with all said above. It is, as are many other The Beach Boys songs, a good example of how 'basic' or simple lyrics about simple subjects can work well. The biggest factor on my liking of this one, though, is the relatability. In fact I'd say that Pet Sounds is one of, or maybe even the most consistently relatable album in existence - especially for young men like myself and, of course, once young men. I agree 100%. Also it's nice seeing you again!
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Post by Barco on Apr 21, 2023 2:45:32 GMT
I agree with all said above. It is, as are many other The Beach Boys songs, a good example of how 'basic' or simple lyrics about simple subjects can work well. The biggest factor on my liking of this one, though, is the relatability. In fact I'd say that Pet Sounds is one of, or maybe even the most consistently relatable album in existence - especially for young men like myself and, of course, once young men. I agree 100%. Also it's nice seeing you again! It's good to finally be back on board. My personal life has been in a bit of a turmoil for a couple of months now but I'm slowly getting used to it and hopefully will have more time for talking music.
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Post by jk on Apr 21, 2023 10:33:10 GMT
I agree 100%. Also it's nice seeing you again! It's good to finally be back on board. My personal life has been in a bit of a turmoil for a couple of months now but I'm slowly getting used to it and hopefully will have more time for talking music. Sorry to hear that, B. It's good to have you back!
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Apr 21, 2023 11:32:08 GMT
Count me in as someone who thought Mike Love contributed to the lyrics. I always thought "Here Today" gave off a bit of a negative vibe BECAUSE of the lyrics. "Here Today" doesn't just reference a relationship gone bad, but it also addresses the girl. Mike sings about "she" in such negative tones. That's rare for a Beach Boys' song. Yes, there are many songs in rock & roll about bad breakups and and bitter endings, and many rock & roll songs about the girl who done him wrong - you just don't find that many in the Beach Boys' catalogue, or at least not in that tone. However, come to think of it, "I'm Waiting For The Day" has some of that, too.
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