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Post by Kapitan on Jul 19, 2022 13:33:38 GMT
Certain things in this world seem to have their moments in the sun as targets of what I'd consider irrational hate, generally (in my opinion) just because it becomes a meme of sorts to feel that way. Basically, it's like pet peeves gone viral.
I thought it might be fun or funny to think of a few and ask, "what exactly is the problem, here?" I know I have some of my own that I'll add in, but first I'll name a few that I don't share the sentiment. For starters:
- Pineapple on pizza
As for me, I happen to think pineapple can be great on pizza. If the issue is that it isn't authentic, uh, really neither is anything else we call pizza in America. (And since cooking is in a constant state of evolution, who the hell cares about authentic anyway? To be authentic, you'd have to say "as of when and where," because everything comes from and goes to somewhere else... Authentic Italian food before the 1500s didn't have tomatoes; before the 1200s, it didn't include pasta.) I think the sweetness of pineapple makes it a perfect pairing to spicy sausages, for example. (Pineapple and pepperoni is far superior to pineapple and canadian bacon/ham, imo.) Delicious. And if you don't like it, who the hell cares? Don't eat it!
- The word "moist" This irrational hatred first crossed my path in the early '00s, when some then-just-out-of-college women said they thought the word was "gross." I don't see how a word can be gross. Besides, it has a meaning that sometimes needs to be expressed. What are you supposed to say? "This cake is delicious, it has the perfect lack of dryness...it is appropriately saturated with liquid"? I've read (and observed) that the aversion is strongest in college-educated, younger women. That leads me to think it's mostly a cultural trend, not an actual, individual dislike.
- Ranch dressing I think this one is a hipster/elite backlash to ranch having become such a staple of boring normie working-middle class American food. It went from just another kind of dressing in the 80s to being a pizza dip, a breadsticks dip, a pizza sauce, a chicken or turkey sandwich sauce, a flavoring for chips ... it was everywhere. And being mass marketed is the kiss of death to some extent, thanks to the pendulum idea of culture. But seriously, is it worth hating?
Thoughts on any of these? Anything to add, whether something you've noticed or that you feel yourself? (I know some of my dislikes are irrational...)
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Post by kds on Jul 19, 2022 13:51:18 GMT
Those are three pretty big ones I've seen on the internet in recent years.
I can see how, there's a certain way that the word "moist" can be used that could be creepy, but the total hatred of the word itself makes no sense. But, then again, we live in a world where people are offended by damn near everything these days, so what do I know?
I know there a couple of season things that tend to make their rounds.
- Peeps The chicken and bunny shaped marshmallow Easter treats have become the target of irrational internet hatred. They roll out every year, and there are even non Easter versions of them now, so obviously somebody's eating them. I used to like them as a kid, but not as much now, but the hate is a little over the top.
- Candy Corn Another one that I used to enjoy as a kid. I feel like the hatred of candy corn might be traced back to a Lewis Black stand up special from the late 90s where he had a bit about how terrible candy corn is, and it's really taken off.
- Pumpkin Spice I'll admit, I rag on the pumpkin / fall loving people a bit, moreso because this stuff comes out earlier each year. In fact, I think the Coffee Mate Pumpkin creamer is available year round now. But, I do enjoy some pumpkin flavored things when we get to fall.
I can't say I hate pineapple on pizza, moist, ranch, candy corn, Peeps, or pumpkin spice. But, the internet, and social media in a way, has created a somewhat odd meme driven culture where opinions are treated as fact and personal tastes are treated like laws or commandments.
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Post by Kapitan on Jul 19, 2022 14:01:15 GMT
Here is a weird one that my older brother had when he was in college (so late 90s), and knowing him, he still has it. (Nobody can nurse a grudge more than that guy!) It never made sense to me, and it still doesn't: people, mostly women, wearing sweat pants in public. In that context, in college.
I never, ever understood that. He'd say "how hard is it to put on pants!?" And fair enough. But who the hell cares? And believe me, this man was and is not a fashion icon, or a formal man in any way. (In fact, I'm told he wore shorts every day in college. Every day. In Minnesota.) I'm guessing had tights been as common for informal wear then as they are now, he'd have been ok with that...
But I swear, he'd bring it up every time I saw him in those days. Sweat pants and flip flops, you'd think it was the end of the world.
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Post by kds on Jul 19, 2022 14:34:52 GMT
Here is a weird one that my older brother had when he was in college (so late 90s), and knowing him, he still has it. (Nobody can nurse a grudge more than that guy!) It never made sense to me, and it still doesn't: people, mostly women, wearing sweat pants in public. In that context, in college.
I never, ever understood that. He'd say "how hard is it to put on pants!?" And fair enough. But who the hell cares? And believe me, this man was and is not a fashion icon, or a formal man in any way. (In fact, I'm told he wore shorts every day in college. Every day. In Minnesota.) I'm guessing had tights been as common for informal wear then as they are now, he'd have been ok with that...
But I swear, he'd bring it up every time I saw him in those days. Sweat pants and flip flops, you'd think it was the end of the world.
When I was in college, I used to be irrationally bothered by the fashion choices (or lack thereof) of my fellow students. Sweat pants, pajama bottoms, and flip flops used to irk me in particular. Now, in my early 40s, I find that I care a lot less about what people wear (although flip flops away from the pool or beach on men still mildly irks me). Hell, I've found myself wearing track pants if I'm just running to the grocery store to pick up a thing or two.
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Post by kds on Jul 21, 2022 12:26:25 GMT
I should mention my irrational hate. I've mentioned it several times, across different posts, primarily my seasonal ones.
People rushing the seasons. This is primarily driven by the retail world, but I see more of it on social media to with people pining for fall in mid July, and Christmas in August. Since retail started doing this shit before social media became a thing, I wonder if people are somewhat driven by that. And, I think it's very possible that corporations monitor social media activity when they decide when to roll out their seasonal products. I've noticed beer and coffee companies in recent years rolling out their fall stuff earlier and earlier.
But, social media is it's own beast, but really grinds my gears is the retail world.
When I go to a store just after New Years, I don't want to see Christmas stuff.
When I go to a store in March, I don't want to see summer stuff.
When I go to a store in mid June, I don't want to see Back to School stuff.
When I go to a store in late July, I don't want to see fall stuff.
When I go to a store in late August, I don't want to see Christmas stuff.
Life goes by too fast as it is, we don't need to rush each season, and try to push it out the door as soon as it begins.
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Post by Kapitan on Jul 29, 2022 13:10:08 GMT
Here's another irrational hatred I've got: being required to frequently change passwords. We probably have about six different platforms requiring different logins and passwords at work, and most of them require changing every 60 days. Now, of course, like anybody in the modern world, I've probably got another 20+ for normal life, whether for computer access, email, streaming services, utilities, financial accounts, and on and on.
They all give the advice not to write down your logins or passwords, though half of them require sufficient complexity as to make them nearly impossible to remember (at least when there are another 25 also competing for brain space).
Meanwhile, data breaches have become so common they barely make the news anymore anyway. But I'll almost guarantee everyone on this board has had their data made vulnerable by at least one by now.
Anyway, because of all this, every time I get those reminders to change passwords, I burn with rage. I hate them.
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Post by kds on Aug 2, 2022 18:41:25 GMT
People who eat while on the phone.
I'm on a call right now (on mute, because much of the discussion has little to do with me), but two people on the call are eating lunch. At least put yourself on mute while chomping on your sandwich.
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Post by Kapitan on Aug 2, 2022 18:49:14 GMT
People who eat while on the phone. I'm on a call right now (on mute, because much of the discussion has little to do with me), but two people on the call are eating lunch. At least put yourself on mute while chomping on your sandwich. I gotta call bullshit on that one, because there is nothing irrational about that particular hate. It's well deserved.
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Post by Kapitan on Aug 2, 2022 19:04:02 GMT
Here's another one that occurred to me that I have, though: people who speed faster than I speed. I'm not a law-abiding citizen when it comes to speed limits, so you'd think I wouldn't be one to throw stones, here. But when somebody speeds faster than me, I get a little annoyed, like "oh, so YOU'RE in a hurry, eh?"
Makes no sense, but there it is...
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Post by kds on Aug 2, 2022 19:04:27 GMT
People who eat while on the phone. I'm on a call right now (on mute, because much of the discussion has little to do with me), but two people on the call are eating lunch. At least put yourself on mute while chomping on your sandwich. I gotta call bullshit on that one, because there is nothing irrational about that particular hate. It's well deserved. This is true. I get annoyed sometimes if my wife calls me during the day while eating. I don't want to be a dick, but sometimes I feel like saying "if it's not information I need right this second, please either finish your food, then call me, or shoot me a text."
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Post by kds on Aug 2, 2022 19:05:24 GMT
Here's another one that occurred to me that I have, though: people who speed faster than I speed. I'm not a law-abiding citizen when it comes to speed limits, so you'd think I wouldn't be one to throw stones, here. But when somebody speeds faster than me, I get a little annoyed, like "oh, so YOU'RE in a hurry, eh?"
Makes no sense, but there it is...
But, it is really funny when somebody speeds past you and you wind up stopped at the same red light. "Oh, you just had to get around me, look at you now."
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Post by Kapitan on Aug 2, 2022 19:09:47 GMT
Here's another one that occurred to me that I have, though: people who speed faster than I speed. I'm not a law-abiding citizen when it comes to speed limits, so you'd think I wouldn't be one to throw stones, here. But when somebody speeds faster than me, I get a little annoyed, like "oh, so YOU'RE in a hurry, eh?"
Makes no sense, but there it is...
But, it is really funny when somebody speeds past you and you wind up stopped at the same red light. "Oh, you just had to get around me, look at you now." What I experience a lot on trips to my parents' house (so an hour and a half or so on the interstate at highway speeds) is me driving maybe 75-78 or so (speed limit 70), and somebody blows by me. OK, whatever. And 2-3 minutes later, I have to pass that same car because while I'm still going that same speed, they are now going 68. As if they just need to be in the front of the pack, and then slow down.
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Post by kds on Aug 15, 2022 0:56:02 GMT
Here's one.
People who equate having a pet to having a child.
Sure, a pet can be considered part of the family. But its not even remotely the same as having a child.
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Post by Kapitan on Aug 26, 2022 17:02:51 GMT
This might not be an irrational one, but my degree of hate for it is: spam/scam calls. Thankfully as phones improve, they identify likely scams more often and I don't even pick up. But on the downside of working remotely, if I see an unknown, apparently local number during business hours, I am more likely to pick it up.
I just did. My mistake.
"Hi, this is Sara from the department of VISA and Mastercard calling to let you know that because of the pandemic and recent legislation you are eligible to have your credit card debt forgiven."
The department of VISA and Mastercard? That's like saying you're from the department of Coke and Pepsi: they are competitor firms, not some shared part of a bigger entity.
Also, I have no credit card debt. Obviously my credit card providers know this.
So needless to say, it was easy for me to hang up quickly. But I think about how many people obviously must fall for these scams (obviously, or the scammers would cease to exist) and it infuriates me. And I think about the totally worthless interruptions to my day/life, and it infuriates me. In fact, it infuriates me when I see those incoming "Scam Likely" calls coming in, and I don't even answer them.
People behind these (or their online or old-fashioned mail equivalents) are among the lowest of the low. I honestly hate them.
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Post by carllove on Aug 26, 2022 17:25:42 GMT
This might not be an irrational one, but my degree of hate for it is: spam/scam calls. Thankfully as phones improve, they identify likely scams more often and I don't even pick up. But on the downside of working remotely, if I see an unknown, apparently local number during business hours, I am more likely to pick it up.
I just did. My mistake.
"Hi, this is Sara from the department of VISA and Mastercard calling to let you know that because of the pandemic and recent legislation you are eligible to have your credit card debt forgiven."
The department of VISA and Mastercard? That's like saying you're from the department of Coke and Pepsi: they are competitor firms, not some shared part of a bigger entity.
Also, I have no credit card debt. Obviously my credit card providers know this.
So needless to say, it was easy for me to hang up quickly. But I think about how many people obviously must fall for these scams (obviously, or the scammers would cease to exist) and it infuriates me. And I think about the totally worthless interruptions to my day/life, and it infuriates me. In fact, it infuriates me when I see those incoming "Scam Likely" calls coming in, and I don't even answer them.
People behind these (or their online or old-fashioned mail equivalents) are among the lowest of the low. I honestly hate them.
I join you in your hatred. It is far from irrational. As someone who also has to answer local numbers for work, I can't ignore an unknown number if it isn't marked spam. If it takes too long for them to start talking, and I can hear background office kind of noise, I hang up. So far, no one from any of the hospitals has told me I have hung up on them. Then again - I have pretty much every employees contact info in my phone. What really irks me is that my local blood center will call as late as 9:00 at night. I get up at 4:30. Sometimes I'm in bed before that. Ugh!
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