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Post by carllove on Apr 22, 2022 2:02:55 GMT
I have loved Bread since I first heard them back in 1970. I even wanted to name my daughter Aubrey - but that got shot down. So tonight, I’m watching The Bread Special from the BBC on You tube for about the tenth time. They are my guilty Band pleasure. All those memories of hoping someone would ask me to skate the slow skate with them to “Baby I’m-a Want You” at the skating rink. Dang that band too - Jimmy Griffin, Larry Knechtel and Mike Botts. They were great musicians. Of course David Gates could write a tune. What is the band that you love, that would make the rest of us go hmmm?
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Post by lonelysummer on Apr 22, 2022 2:59:27 GMT
Every band i love is a guilty pleasure band because i don't like anything perceived to be hip or cool. Bread is an excellent pick. I rate James Griffin among my very favorite singers - top ten, maybe even top five. The way his and David's voices blended was like manna from heaven. Oh, sure, some of their songs - particularly Gates' could be syrupy - but I'm a guy that loads my pancakes up with syrup so I'm not complaining. Nice, though, that those boys could rock when they wanted to. Let Your Love Go, Mother Freedom, Fancy Dancer, Take Comfort - that's some pretty fine rock and roll there!
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Post by carllove on Apr 22, 2022 3:25:32 GMT
Every band i love is a guilty pleasure band because i don't like anything perceived to be hip or cool. Bread is an excellent pick. I rate James Griffin among my very favorite singers - top ten, maybe even top five. The way his and David's voices blended was like manna from heaven. Oh, sure, some of their songs - particularly Gates' could be syrupy - but I'm a guy that loads my pancakes up with syrup so I'm not complaining. Nice, though, that those boys could rock when they wanted to. Let Your Love Go, Mother Freedom, Fancy Dancer, Take Comfort - that's some pretty fine rock and roll there! Jimmy Griffin did indeed have a beautiful voice. He also won an Academy Award (under the pen name Arthur James) - so there’s that. Mike Botts (listen to him sing “Long Tall Sally”) had some pipes as well. Of course Larry Knechtel played the organ on Pet Sounds, so there is a Beach Boy connection. I think Bread is a very underrated and sadly, almost forgotten band.
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Post by sockit on Apr 22, 2022 4:18:20 GMT
I guess Bread would fall into the category of Guilty Pleasure Bands because they were never perceived as "hip" in any way, at least among people I've known. But even though they were mostly an easy listening/ballad group, they did have a few rockers. "Mother Freedom" was a pretty heavy riff-rocker, along with "Let Your Love Go" and a few others that I recall.
One song of theirs that really struck me recently, after not having heard it in 30 years or so is "Make it With You", not so much because of the song itself, but the production. The arrangement of that song is incredible. Listen to it in headphones and you will understand what I am referring to.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Apr 22, 2022 11:19:18 GMT
I love Bread. And, talk about underrated artists. David Gates was kinda the Brian Wilson of Bread. David Gates was surrounded by outstanding musicians, but HE wrote all of those great songs. It's about time he gets his due.
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Post by Kapitan on Apr 22, 2022 11:32:56 GMT
I have to define guilty pleasure first. If it means something I actually feel guilty or embarrassed about liking, then I have none. Over the years, I've gotten pretty comfortable with who I am and what I like, and the crowd--whether the masses with popular acts, or the elite crowds with critical darlings--doesn't really intimidate me. Nothing to feel guilty about.
But if it means something generally considered bad, out of style, low-class, or gauche? OK, I can definitely get into that.
The main reason is I tend not to STOP liking things I once liked. Even now, 45 years old, if I hear something I loved when I was 13, I still hear what I loved. (I might objectively also hear other things so that it no longer impresses me ... but I can still love it.) That means I still enjoy things like the goofy rap of the mid-80s; the so-called hair metal of the late 80s and early 90s; musicals; and the least cool band of all time, KISS. I don't listen to any of those on a regular basis, but I won't disown any of them.
Oh, and one more: the Beach Boys. I think I have maybe one, one and a half real-life friends who like them, and even that leans toward tolerance of my liking them than anything else.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Apr 22, 2022 11:34:32 GMT
I'll list three of 'em. Now, I'm not into them like The Beach Boys, The Doors, The Beatles, or some others. I don't have their individual albums. My fandom is limited to their "greatest hits", but, oh, what great hits!
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Post by jk on Apr 22, 2022 11:56:06 GMT
I have loved Bread since I first heard them back in 1970. I even wanted to name my daughter Aubrey - but that got shot down. So tonight, I’m watching The Bread Special from the BBC on You tube for about the tenth time. They are my guilty Band pleasure. All those memories of hoping someone would ask me to skate the slow skate with them to “Baby I’m-a Want You” at the skating rink. Dang that band too - Jimmy Griffin, Larry Knechtel and Mike Botts. They were great musicians. Of course David Gates could write a tune. What is the band that you love, that would make the rest of us go hmmm? Yes, as the Sheriff says, David Gates deserves more credit for his achievements. I see he is mentioned as having worked with Brian -- what might that have been, I wonder? I do know he produced two great singles for Captain Beefheart and even wrote the second of them, "Moonchild". My "hmmm moment" at this forum is pretty well guaranteed by my love of the music of Gary Numan. Back in 1979, I was not in a particularly happy place and saw Gary on TOTP performing "Are 'Friends' Electric?" His robotic music and bleak demeanour rang a large bell with me. Robotic is perhaps the wrong word -- you could discern a sensitive human being behind the forbidding facade: And I've followed him on and off ever since. He had his own "wilderness years" but reemerged in the 1990s as a respected pioneer of synth pop with new albums that added industrial rhythms influenced by the likes of Roni Size: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Numan
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Post by kds on Apr 22, 2022 12:21:52 GMT
I'm at the point where I know no longer feel any guilt for liking a particular song or artist, but I'll play along.
Over the past several years, I've dipped my feet a bit into more Jimmy Buffett inspired recent country songs by acts like Zac Brown, Kenny Chesney, and Little Big Town. I also find it interesting that the rise of summery country music in the late 90s / early 00s kind of brought Buffett himself back to his roots. Buffett's 70s material definitely had more of a country vibe to it. In the early 00s, he appeared on songs by Zac Brown as well as the Alan Jackson crossover hit It's Five O Clock Somewhere. In 2004, Buffett released License to Chill, featuring an array of country artists, and it became his highest charting album until his 2020 album (which was aided by the lack of new releases in the COVID era).
Do Gordon Lightfoot and Joe Jackson count? I like a few of their songs.
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Post by carllove on Apr 22, 2022 13:22:16 GMT
The main reason is I tend not to STOP liking things I once liked. Even now, 45 years old, if I hear something I loved when I was 13, I still hear what I loved. (I might objectively also hear other things so that it no longer impresses me ... but I can still love it.) That means I still enjoy things like the goofy rap of the mid-80s; the so-called hair metal of the late 80s and early 90s; musicals; and the least cool band of all time, KISS. I don't listen to any of those on a regular basis, but I won't disown any of them.
Oh, and one more: the Beach Boys. I think I have maybe one, one and a half real-life friends who like them, and even that leans toward tolerance of my liking them than anything else.
Yeah - No one I know really “likes” The Beach Boys. The best I got was my best friend of 50 years, admitting that she enjoyed listening to Pet Sounds. I don’t know if it’s because so much of new music is crap nowadays, but I pretty much haven’t made it past the 90’s in my music listening. I did have a thing for Alt J, Little Green Cars and Eminem, for a bit. I listen to Tech N9ne, since he is from here, and I enjoy the moody music of Lana Del Rey, but I only own two of her albums. I get to hear most of the newer country stuff because of my husband. Never got into KISS or the “hair metal” bands, but was really into grunge in the 90’s. “Black Hole Sun” is still in my top ten songs of all time. I love musicals because both my daughter and I both did musical theater. I’m sure I’ve gotten looks while I’m driving in my car belting out tunes from Cats and Miss Saigon!
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Post by kds on Apr 22, 2022 13:32:56 GMT
The main reason is I tend not to STOP liking things I once liked. Even now, 45 years old, if I hear something I loved when I was 13, I still hear what I loved. (I might objectively also hear other things so that it no longer impresses me ... but I can still love it.) That means I still enjoy things like the goofy rap of the mid-80s; the so-called hair metal of the late 80s and early 90s; musicals; and the least cool band of all time, KISS. I don't listen to any of those on a regular basis, but I won't disown any of them.
Oh, and one more: the Beach Boys. I think I have maybe one, one and a half real-life friends who like them, and even that leans toward tolerance of my liking them than anything else.
Yeah - No one I know really “likes” The Beach Boys. The best I got was my best friend of 50 years, admitting that she enjoyed listening to Pet Sounds. I don’t know if it’s because so much of new music is crap nowadays, but I pretty much haven’t made it past the 90’s in my music listening. I did have a thing for Alt J, Little Green Cars and Eminem, for a bit. I listen to Tech N9ne, since he is from here, and I enjoy the moody music of Lana Del Rey, but I only own two of her albums. I get to hear most of the newer country stuff because of my husband. Never got into KISS or the “hair metal” bands, but was really into grunge in the 90’s. “Black Hole Sun” is still in my top ten songs of all time. I love musicals because both my daughter and I both did musical theater. I’m sure I’ve gotten looks while I’m driving in my car belting out tunes from Cats and Miss Saigon! I have a couple friends who like some BB hits in the summertime (kinda like I was in my late 20s). My wife likes them, as do my parents, but neither my wife or parents were as into the early 70s material like I eventually became. I'm on the opposite end of the 80s hard rock vs grunge battle. I loved the 80s hard rock scene and a kid, but could never identify with grunge when it became popular when I was in middle school. I eventually came around on Alice in Chains and Soundgarden, but still don't understand the appeal of Pearl Jam or Nirvana. So, I suppose bands like Poison and Bon Jovi might qualify as "guilty pleasures," but I'll make no apologies and harbor no guilt for thinking Nothin But a Good Time is a far better song than Smells Like Teen Spirit.
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Post by Kapitan on Apr 22, 2022 13:39:51 GMT
I think I liked the "hair metal" stuff for a couple of reasons: I was a good age for it, being roughly 10-15 during its heyday; and I seem to have a natural affinity for big strong melodies/choruses, and that's what that genre was all about. In hindsight, I also like its open acceptance in being just Big Dumb Fun. Nothing "important" here, and when those bands did sometimes try to aim for seriousness, they usually fell flat in an embarrassing thud.
Conversely, I didn't like grunge largely because of the rhetoric that accompanied it: everything sucks, trying sucks, competence (much less virtuosity) sucks, you just need "feel" and "authenticity," as understood by our little anti-fashion fashion. They pretended to be outside of fashion or style, when they simply were a different fashion or style. That said, of the bands of that era/genre, Soundgarden would be my choice for favorite.
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Post by carllove on Apr 22, 2022 13:40:53 GMT
I'll list three of 'em. Now, I'm not into them like The Beach Boys, The Doors, The Beatles, or some others. I don't have their individual albums. My fandom is limited to their "greatest hits", but, oh, what great hits!
Three very excellent choices Sheriff, though I do think Glen Campbell won back some of the respect he lost during his “Rhinestone Cowboy” era, before he died. His Goodtime Hour and This is Tom Jones were appointment TV when I was a kid. Glen’s performance of “Wichita Lineman” is one of the greatest songs of all time. I used to love to play and sing John Denver’s music when I was first learning to play the guitar. He wrote “Leaving on a Jet Plane” - just doing that wins my respect. Like Bread though, I feel like he is quickly being forgotten. He was never cool - but like most of us here - not something I ever cared about much.
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Post by Kapitan on Apr 22, 2022 13:49:23 GMT
John Denver won my eternal respect when during the PMRC's nonsensical anti-rock music crusade of the mid-80s, he (along with Dee Snider of Twisted Sister and Frank Zappa) was one of the musicians called to testify before a senate committee. Everyone assumed he was going to side with the PMRC/senators/Republicans/conservatives. Instead he stood up against censorship, for artists' rights to sing what they liked. All three of those people giving testimony was great during those hearings.
Zappa later released a 12-minute "song" documenting the situation, "Porn Wars," on his album Frank Zappa Meets the Mothers of Prevention. It has a hilarious warning:
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Post by carllove on Apr 22, 2022 13:50:47 GMT
I'm on the opposite end of the 80s hard rock vs grunge battle. I loved the 80s hard rock scene and a kid, but could never identify with grunge when it became popular when I was in middle school. I eventually came around on Alice in Chains and Soundgarden, but still don't understand the appeal of Pearl Jam or Nirvana. So, I suppose bands like Poison and Bon Jovi might qualify as "guilty pleasures," but I'll make no apologies and harbor no guilt for thinking Nothin But a Good Time is a far better song than Smells Like Teen Spirit. Well - There are at least 10 better Nirvana songs than “Smells Like Teen Spirit”. Also Nirvana is far from the best grunge band - but how can you not like “Black” or “Alive” by Pearl Jam? Stone Temple Pilots are great - how do you feel about Alice In Chains?
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