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Post by jk on Nov 8, 2021 20:34:03 GMT
When is an instrumental not an instrumental? Alternatively, when is a song not a song? There are records and even entire genres that straddle the fence between the two. What to think of the many Italian movie themes with wordless singing, mostly notably that of the peerless Edda Dell'Orso? (Think Once Upon a Time in the West.) I have a few choice fence-straddling examples lined up, starting with Dave and Ansell Collins' "Double Barrel": en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_and_Ansell_Collins
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Post by jk on Nov 9, 2021 22:51:48 GMT
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Nov 10, 2021 13:08:05 GMT
The Beach Boys did a couple:
- "Moon Dawg" - "Stoked" - "Passing By"
and a Brian Wilson solo one comes to mind - "Half Moon Bay"
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Post by jk on Nov 10, 2021 16:15:46 GMT
The Beach Boys did a couple:
- "Moon Dawg" - "Stoked" - "Passing By"
and a Brian Wilson solo one comes to mind - "Half Moon Bay" Thanks, Sheriff. Not sure about "Stoked", though. It's really just the track title repeated between verses, like so many other instrumentals. (Just the OP asserting his opinion, of course.) Here's one that goes a little further than just the title, the preposterous "Hoots Mon" by Lord Rockingham's XI: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoots_Mon
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Post by kds on Nov 10, 2021 21:29:18 GMT
Here's the opening track to Pink Floyd's Meddle album - One of These Days - which gets its name from a heavily treated spoken word bit from Nick Mason
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Nov 11, 2021 0:33:38 GMT
The Beach Boys did a couple:
- "Moon Dawg" - "Stoked" - "Passing By"
and a Brian Wilson solo one comes to mind - "Half Moon Bay" Thanks, Sheriff. Not sure about "Stoked", though. It's really just the track title repeated between verses, like so many other instrumentals. (Just the OP asserting his opinion, of course.) I thought of another BB-related one, an interesting one, too. How about "Mrs. O'Leary's Cow" from BWPS? One of my favorite parts of the song are...the vocals. Yet, the song won a Grammy for Brian as Best Instrumental!
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Post by jk on Nov 11, 2021 13:19:27 GMT
I thought of another BB-related one, an interesting one, too. How about "Mrs. O'Leary's Cow" from BWPS? One of my favorite parts of the song are...the vocals. Yet, the song won a Grammy for Brian as Best Instrumental! Great choice there, Sheriff! This one by Piero Umiliani always makes me smile: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mah_Nà_Mah_Nà
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Post by Kapitan on Nov 11, 2021 13:26:49 GMT
Here is one that might qualify, taken from this week's Beatles album, Ringo Starr's Old Wave. It's basically an instrumental--originally recorded as a jam session between Starr, Eric Clapton, John Entwistle, and percussionist Ray Cooper in 1978, but with everything except Ringo's vocal (i.e., him reciting the title a couple of times) re-recorded by Joe Walsh in the 1982 sessions for this album.
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Post by jk on Nov 11, 2021 23:00:12 GMT
Here is one that might qualify, taken from this week's Beatles album, Ringo Starr's Old Wave. It's basically an instrumental--originally recorded as a jam session between Starr, Eric Clapton, John Entwistle, and percussionist Ray Cooper in 1978, but with everything except Ringo's vocal (i.e., him reciting the title a couple of times) re-recorded by Joe Walsh in the 1982 sessions for this album.
Oh yes, I'd say it qualifies. Most of the tracks in this thread are odd in some way and "EIAHBM" is no exception! That said, there's some really solid playing there.
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Post by jk on Nov 12, 2021 11:34:52 GMT
On the subject of oddness, how on earth does one describe this? This is "Salesman" by Maitreya Kali aka Craig Smith, where you can hear MK in conversation with Mike Love of all people. It's not a song (although there's a song playing in the background), it's not a narrative with accompaniment like the VU's "The Gift", and it certainly isn't an instrumental. They don't come much odder than this. See the link for some occasionally lurid background info: midnighttosix.wordpress.com/2020/06/03/craig-smith-maitreya-kali-apache-inca-maitreya-apache-music/
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Post by jk on Nov 13, 2021 14:22:19 GMT
Coming across a similar but ancient topic of mine at Smiley, I was alerted (by one of my own posts) to this classic yodelfest from 1973. In the long album version, keyboardist/flautist Thijs van Leer adds some rapid-fire scatting (no, it's not Dutch) as well as a spot of whistling: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hocus_Pocus_(song)
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Post by lonelysummer on Nov 14, 2021 5:15:23 GMT
When is an instrumental not an instrumental? Alternatively, when is a song not a song? There are records and even entire genres that straddle the fence between the two. What to think of the many Italian movie themes with wordless singing, mostly notably that of the peerless Edda Dell'Orso? (Think Once Upon a Time in the West.) I have a few choice fence-straddling examples lined up, starting with Dave and Ansell Collins' "Double Barrel": en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_and_Ansell_Collins"I_I_I_I!! Am the Magnificent!"
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Post by jk on Mar 8, 2022 15:56:14 GMT
Here's another fence-straddler I thought of the other day. Santana sing more than the title -- but not much more: Curiously, the original by Babatunde Olatunji is called "Jin-go-lo-ba", which, if this thread is to be believed, makes it an instrumental! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jin-go-lo-ba
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