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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Feb 13, 2021 13:15:50 GMT
Todd Rundgren speaks about the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame:
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Post by Kapitan on Feb 13, 2021 13:39:50 GMT
From that article, this pretty much sums it all up, doesn't it?
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Post by kds on Feb 17, 2021 16:18:29 GMT
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Post by Kapitan on Feb 17, 2021 18:33:45 GMT
It's hard to imagine that such an album would have been especially successful around 2000, isn't it? I mean, as I recall, this was the era of four basic schools of hits:
- Nu-metal. Down-tuned guitars, sludgy riffs, often using hip hop beats and sometimes MCs alongside band members. - Rap of the schools of Puffy, Ma$e, 50 Cent, Eminem - Jam band style softer pop along the lines of Dave Matthews Band, John Mayer
- Pop heavily influenced by RnB, hip hop a la Britney, Christina Aguilera, Aaliyah, etc.
But what was most definitely not topping the charts were music like we had gotten a decade before a la "High Enough." This was more "reality show about a made-for-TV rock band" era than it was "rock band" era.
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Post by kds on Feb 17, 2021 19:12:05 GMT
It's hard to imagine that such an album would have been especially successful around 2000, isn't it? I mean, as I recall, this was the era of four basic schools of hits:
- Nu-metal. Down-tuned guitars, sludgy riffs, often using hip hop beats and sometimes MCs alongside band members. - Rap of the schools of Puffy, Ma$e, 50 Cent, Eminem - Jam band style softer pop along the lines of Dave Matthews Band, John Mayer
- Pop heavily influenced by RnB, hip hop a la Britney, Christina Aguilera, Aaliyah, etc.
But what was most definitely not topping the charts were music like we had gotten a decade before a la "High Enough." This was more "reality show about a made-for-TV rock band" era than it was "rock band" era.
Don't forget the other scurge of that era - pop punk. Damn Yankees, even though they weren't from the 80s, had a very 80s sound. Not quite "classic" enough to be relevant like Floyd, Aerosmith, KISS, and the Stones in the 1990s. And definitely not current enough to be hip either. And when the 80s nostalgia movement did happen, it was just that, nostalgia. New material tended to sink like a stone. The one outlier there was Bon Jovi who had the successful Crush album in 2000, but DY were never in BJ's league commercially.
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Post by Kapitan on Feb 17, 2021 19:22:47 GMT
Ha, definitely a far cry from Bon Jovi's success! Frankly, Damn Yankees are almost appropriately called a one-hit wonder. "High Enough" was huge, but after that there was a tune that hit #20, a tune that hit #50, and then less still. While I had the debut album, at least, I currently don't remember another single song from them other than "High Enough."
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Post by kds on Feb 17, 2021 19:52:28 GMT
Ha, definitely a far cry from Bon Jovi's success! Frankly, Damn Yankees are almost appropriately called a one-hit wonder. "High Enough" was huge, but after that there was a tune that hit #20, a tune that hit #50, and then less still. While I had the debut album, at least, I currently don't remember another single song from them other than "High Enough." DY came onto the scene in 1990, so they were pretty late to the party. But, as I said in another thread, I feel like the Baltimore area was late to leave the party, as I remember a lot of Damn Yankees on the radio well into 1993 from their debut (Coming of Age and Come Again) and their 1992 album Don't Tread (Don't Tread on Me, Silence is Broken, and Where You Goin' Now). In fact, my first time ever seeing a big name rock act in person was when Jack Blades and Tommy Shaw played a short acoustic set at the end of an Orioles game during All Star Week in July 1993.
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Post by Kapitan on Feb 18, 2021 14:58:23 GMT
It appears things are getting ugly between the living members of Soundgarden and the estate of the late Chris Cornell (as run by his widow). According to this article, she is suing them for an independent, judicial valuation of Cornell's share of the group, because while they offered her a buyout of Cornell's interests for $300k, her counteroffers to buy them out for first $4 million, then $7 million apiece were rejected.
If you're a band member and are unwilling to sell YOUR share for $7 million, how do you justify valuing Chris Cornell's share at just $300k!?
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Post by kds on Feb 24, 2021 14:53:59 GMT
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Post by Kapitan on Feb 24, 2021 14:56:02 GMT
I saw that yesterday but got distracted before mentioning it. I would say you are correct.
Imagine in 1992 if someone had said Axl Rose was going to be a character on a children's cartoon. The Axl Rose of "Mr. Brownstone," "One in a Million," "I Used to Love Her," and "Get Into the Ring." Time smooths over many rough edges, doesn't it?
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Post by kds on Feb 24, 2021 15:23:48 GMT
I saw that yesterday but got distracted before mentioning it. I would say you are correct.
Imagine in 1992 if someone had said Axl Rose was going to be a character on a children's cartoon. The Axl Rose of "Mr. Brownstone," "One in a Million," "I Used to Love Her," and "Get Into the Ring." Time smooths over many rough edges, doesn't it?
Even as recently as 2011, when Axl appeared on That Metal Show. In true Axl fashion, he wouldn't come to the Vh1 studio. Instead, Eddie Trunk, Don Jamison, and Jeff Florentine took a camera crew to an airport to meet Axl, only to be left waiting for hours in the middle of the night for Axl to grace them with his presence.
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Post by kds on Feb 26, 2021 16:24:14 GMT
When it comes to the prospect of new music, there is no bigger tease in rock than Jimmy Page. He's been hinting at releasing new music for the better part of 20 years. Now, there appears to be possible new songs from Coverdale / Page on the horizon. I've read two different stories here. One said DC and Page wanted to do a follow up album to the 1993 s/t album. This article says that new material would be part of a big reissue of the 1993 album. ultimateclassicrock.com/david-coverdale-jimmy-page-new-music/
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Post by Kapitan on Feb 26, 2021 16:45:15 GMT
When it comes to the prospect of new music, there is no bigger tease in rock than Jimmy Page. He's been hinting at releasing new music for the better part of 20 years. Now, there appears to be possible new songs from Coverdale / Page on the horizon. I've read two different stories here. One said DC and Page wanted to do a follow up album to the 1993 s/t album. This article says that new material would be part of a big reissue of the 1993 album. ultimateclassicrock.com/david-coverdale-jimmy-page-new-music/Interesting. I've heard Coverdale interviewed several times in which he's said he really liked that album and would love to work with Jimmy again, but it always seemed like it wasn't going to happen. (That was odd, considering Jimmy also, as you said, is always saying he wished he were in a band making new music.)
I'd be very curious to hear either old, previously unreleased songs or new ones.
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Post by kds on Feb 26, 2021 16:54:17 GMT
When it comes to the prospect of new music, there is no bigger tease in rock than Jimmy Page. He's been hinting at releasing new music for the better part of 20 years. Now, there appears to be possible new songs from Coverdale / Page on the horizon. I've read two different stories here. One said DC and Page wanted to do a follow up album to the 1993 s/t album. This article says that new material would be part of a big reissue of the 1993 album. ultimateclassicrock.com/david-coverdale-jimmy-page-new-music/Interesting. I've heard Coverdale interviewed several times in which he's said he really liked that album and would love to work with Jimmy again, but it always seemed like it wasn't going to happen. (That was odd, considering Jimmy also, as you said, is always saying he wished he were in a band making new music.)
I'd be very curious to hear either old, previously unreleased songs or new ones.
It's also intriguing that there are apparently two different mixes of the 1993 album. If we ever get new music from Page, I suspect it would have to be a collaboration of some sort. Over the last 30 years, he's done the Coverdale Page album, the Plant / Page albums, a tour with the Black Crowes, and the one off Zeppelin reunion.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Feb 27, 2021 1:56:20 GMT
I find the photos more intriguing than the info:
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