zinczag
The Surfer Moon
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Post by zinczag on Aug 11, 2020 15:24:01 GMT
OK, with my 10 rating, how'll the album score? It will not be 7.4 now, right?😄 Since nobody replied (& they say this is board that is friendly & welcomes anybody...😑), used mobile's calculator - the freshest ranking result is: 7.75/10 by 8 people. Sheriff John Stone, enjoy! 👍
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Post by jk on Aug 12, 2020 14:45:16 GMT
Count 8th vote by this Al Jardine fan.👍 Album is big fave, especially after the past year's trip to NorCal, San Francisco!!! Many fun cool joyful memories. I realized the biggest dream, yay!!! Now saving up to visit L.A. But, I sidetrack. The single track which is least favorite here is "And I Always Will". Usually tend to lean towards fast upbeat romantic-free songs. It's kinda nice & Al *can* sing ballads well. Anyhoo, the remainder is perfect.😎 10. I had trouble with that track for years but I warmed to it eventually. I've always considered the rest to be top-notch -- it's a wonderfully mellow album, autumnal almost. Scandalously, I refrained from commenting in time but I did get round to giving it 9.
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bellbottoms
Pacific Coast Highway
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Post by bellbottoms on Aug 12, 2020 16:26:21 GMT
I'm honestly stumped as to how to rate this album. I listened to it once, a few years ago. I remember thinking it was nice, good even, but just not necessary. Reading the positive reviews has made me consider that maybe I'm missing out, and that maybe I'd change my mind about it if I gave it another listen... but this idea of it being unnecessary just won't let go its hold of me.
Even the original songs sound like reworkings of existing BB songs, with new lyrics. Overall, I think Al did a great job on the album, but I just kind of... don't care, lol.
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Post by The Cincinnati Kid on Aug 13, 2020 3:02:52 GMT
My thoughts are kind of the same as bellbottoms. It's fine, with Don't Fight the Sea being a real gem that should have been the lead single for TWGMTR. Now hardly anyone will ever know about it. Waves of Love is a good listen just to hear another Carl vocal. The rest of the album is pleasant enough, but I rarely get the desire to listen to anything from it other than the aforementioned tracks.
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Post by lonelysummer on Aug 13, 2020 6:17:06 GMT
Well, for what it's worth, i find myself listening to this album a lot more than NPP. There should be a category for just plain enjoyable.
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Post by kds on Aug 13, 2020 12:20:06 GMT
Well, for what it's worth, i find myself listening to this album a lot more than NPP. There should be a category for just plain enjoyable. I think that's pretty much how I feel about it (except I like NPP better overall). I think 6-7 is a fair rating for "just plain enjoyable." I enjoy Al's album when I listen to it. But, I don't find myself listening to it much.
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Post by Kapitan on Aug 13, 2020 13:11:14 GMT
There should be a category for just plain enjoyable. I think "enjoyable" is an underrated category. Sometimes we want everything to be "genius" and if it isn't, it's just terrible. But there's nothing wrong with enjoyable in this world!
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Post by kds on Aug 13, 2020 13:13:25 GMT
There should be a category for just plain enjoyable. I think "enjoyable" is an underrated category. Sometimes we want everything to be "genius" and if it isn't, it's just terrible. But there's nothing wrong with enjoyable in this world! I think that's especially true when talking about legacy artists (not just Beach Boys). I think far too often fans hold new material up to an artist's prime material.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Aug 13, 2020 16:33:43 GMT
I think "enjoyable" is an underrated category. Sometimes we want everything to be "genius" and if it isn't, it's just terrible. But there's nothing wrong with enjoyable in this world! I think that's especially true when talking about legacy artists (not just Beach Boys). I think far too often fans hold new material up to an artist's prime material. I know that I do.
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Post by kds on Aug 13, 2020 17:12:44 GMT
I think that's especially true when talking about legacy artists (not just Beach Boys). I think far too often fans hold new material up to an artist's prime material. I know that I do. In my experience with new albums from legacy artists, I think that's a good way to set yourself up for disappointment.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Aug 13, 2020 17:30:28 GMT
In my experience with new albums from legacy artists, I think that's a good way to set yourself up for disappointment. Yes, and I think I have a bad attitude when it comes to SPECIFICALLY the Beach Boys solo efforts. While I would never question their rights(s) to "go solo", even if it's just the occasional solo album - they earned the right to do whatever they want to do - my attitude was/is always, "Well, if you feel the need to go outside the group with your songs, time, effort, etc., thus taking away from a potentially stronger Beach Boys' album, then it better be worth it." And, largely it hasn't. Dennis is the only Beach Boys who truly went outside the group artistically, with the possible exception of Carl's Youngblood.
As far as the actual standards, I've been a little more forgiving vocally, realizing how age, wear-and-tear, and drugs took their toll. But, with songwriting, production, track selection, and performance/effort, no, I've never been one to excuse, give free passes, or even rationalize. I'm not saying that's the right approach - most fans would differ I'm sure - but that's how I feel. If an artist is going to put something out and charge me for it, then I have my standards, too, tough or not.
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Post by kds on Aug 13, 2020 18:32:30 GMT
In my experience with new albums from legacy artists, I think that's a good way to set yourself up for disappointment. Yes, and I think I have a bad attitude when it comes to SPECIFICALLY the Beach Boys solo efforts. While I would never question their rights(s) to "go solo", even if it's just the occasional solo album - they earned the right to do whatever they want to do - my attitude was/is always, "Well, if you feel the need to go outside the group with your songs, time, effort, etc., thus taking away from a potentially stronger Beach Boys' album, then it better be worth it." And, largely it hasn't. Dennis is the only Beach Boys who truly went outside the group artistically, with the possible exception of Carl's Youngblood.
As far as the actual standards, I've been a little more forgiving vocally, realizing how age, wear-and-tear, and drugs took their toll. But, with songwriting, production, track selection, and performance/effort, no, I've never been one to excuse, give free passes, or even rationalize. I'm not saying that's the right approach - most fans would differ I'm sure - but that's how I feel. If an artist is going to put something out and charge me for it, then I have my standards, too, tough or not.
I think over the last 20 years, it has to be taken into account that, with the exception of 2012, The Beach Boys don't exist as a creative / recording entity any longer. And, it's been during that time that Brian has been the most prolific. Of the five primary Boys, Dennis, Carl, and Mike gave it a go earlier, and at that time, only Dennis really had the chops to release a full respective solo album. But Brian and Al for the most part went solo far later in their careers. I'm not trying to sway you either way, I just think it's difficult to measure the solo output of The Beach Boys up to their prime material.
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