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Post by Kapitan on Aug 5, 2020 16:53:10 GMT
You're correct. My 2010 digital download version says BP; the Spotify version (shown as 2018, not sure which version it is otherwise) says Texaco.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2020 8:02:31 GMT
Thank you very much for continuing the polls instead of me, Kapitan. Would you mind if I left the future polls to you? I have several other polls to run as well as real life stuff, so I don't really have time to post on forums anymore.
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Post by Kapitan on Aug 6, 2020 11:57:26 GMT
No problem. I didn't mean to steal away anything you wanted to do, but since you'd been away and someone was asking, I thought I'd continue temporarily. If that turns to permanently, that's fine. I hope things are going well for you!
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Post by kds on Aug 6, 2020 12:17:19 GMT
You're correct. My 2010 digital download version says BP; the Spotify version (shown as 2018, not sure which version it is otherwise) says Texaco. I'm sure there's some sort of story behind this. And, should Al tell it, I hope Jeffrey Ross will be there to keep him on track.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2020 6:45:33 GMT
Yes al changed it to be current....
If you listen to this album while driving up the 101/1 freeway that is PCH and you pull around the bend and see Morro Bay with it playing, out of sentiment you'll give it a couple of extra points. All the performers do a great job. Steve Miller is fantastic and the members of Crosby stills Nash and young and Glen Campbell and of course Brian and Dave and the fantastic monster cut of don't fight the C. I just have never done anything but enjoied every single minute of it even Alex Baldwin because somehow it works in context. And I like the contemplation of the Spanish past and the very artful social commentary about the clash of cultures.
California feeling is great. The album offers so much fun and so positive and everything works. So if you've never done so, put it on and drive up the coast and you'll understand it and appreciate it more. And having AL and Brian and Dave on driving is fantastic.
I'm not disputing any of the analytical reviews above but just telling you how I believe the album is best appreciated and felt.
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Post by Kapitan on Aug 9, 2020 15:35:01 GMT
Just a reminder that we're on a Monday-to-Sunday schedule for our albums of the week, so if you haven't yet commented or voted on Al Jardine's Postcard From California, today would be a great time.
(I haven't actually locked old polls, and probably won't. So technically, if you want to jump in late, you can. But I do think we'll have a livelier discussion if we're generally all talking about the same thing at roughly the same time.)
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Aug 9, 2020 16:11:54 GMT
Yes al changed it to be current.... If you listen to this album while driving up the 101/1 freeway that is PCH and you pull around the bend and see Morro Bay with it playing, out of sentiment you'll give it a couple of extra points. All the performers do a great job. Steve Miller is fantastic and the members of Crosby stills Nash and young and Glen Campbell and of course Brian and Dave and the fantastic monster cut of don't fight the C. I just have never done anything but enjoied every single minute of it even Alex Baldwin because somehow it works in context. And I like the contemplation of the Spanish past and the very artful social commentary about the clash of cultures. California feeling is great. The album offers so much fun and so positive and everything works. So if you've never done so, put it on and drive up the coast and you'll understand it and appreciate it more. And having AL and Brian and Dave on driving is fantastic. I'm not disputing any of the analytical reviews above but just telling you how I believe the album is best appreciated and felt. Prof, I like your perspectives and I wish you would post more often. Now I'm going to disagree with you. Well, kind of...
I think A Postcard From California can be and is appreciated similarly to the way you described above. It's an easy listen, an entertaining listen to some degree (your mileage may vary). But, and I'm playing devil's advocate here, I could just as easily make a mix CD of the original "Help Me, Rhonda", the original "Honkin' Down The Highway", the original "California Dreamin'", the original "California Saga", the original "Sloop John B", "California Feelin'" from Made In California", and if I'm a bootlegger, the original "Lookin' Down The Coast" and "Don't Fight The Sea" (I honestly don't know if it was booted) - and appreciate the mix CD just as much or more as Al's album. With few examples/parts of songs, IMO Al's re-makes are inferior to the originals, so, what's the point (the Sheriff asks respectfully)?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2020 18:44:00 GMT
O sheriff I really have nothing intelligent to say. Some of the songs I just heard for the 1st time and didn't even know there were originals ,and for the classics I like the re imagination and I like the camaraderie and I love hearing Glenn Campbell who really does a nice job so I just have a sentimental attachment to the album listening to it driving around. You're completely correct analytically. With The Beach Boys in a kind of disarray I find myself just grasping at little moments in order to maintain the mythology come and sometimes that means driving up the coast listening to the songs about the coast. I can't defend that beyond just a device for feeling good about The Beach Boys when there's no other evidence to feel good about them except the recorded record. In other words the humble professor completely agrees with your disagreement with him.
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Post by B.E. on Aug 9, 2020 18:56:18 GMT
Don't agree with him! What you're describing is exactly what Al was going for. A Postcard From California isn't just a California-themed album, but a concept album. The back cover even has a map and states "Greetings from California's Coast Highway 1". It explains why he chose songs like "California Dreamin'" and "California Feelin'". Even a song like "Honkin' Down The Highway". As for the mix CD that SJS alluded to, Al's album whips it with cohesion.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Aug 9, 2020 21:31:14 GMT
Haha...No, The Professor made some good points that I agreed with. If pleasant listening, sentimentality, positivity, and cohesion is what you're looking for, then A Postcard From California is for you. And I like those qualities, too. I was just holding Al to higher standards with his first and only solo album. It seems like I've been holding these solo Beach Boys to higher standards for several years now.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2020 22:21:18 GMT
Thanks for this great exchange fellows. It's so much fun to have good agreement with people I respect and who are so smart. At this very moment I'm going to put my money where my mouth is and put the album on as I drive around PCH on rancho palas verdes down to San Pedro and then backup to the 110 and home. Not exactly the part of the coast discussed but close enough and where I happen to be in reality today.
Edit: I drove past the California interpretation center where everyone was gathered to watching the Gray whales migrating jumping around without a care. But I thought that would be a little too on the nose for our conversation so I just rocked on past as Brian and Al were singing drivin'
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Post by Kapitan on Aug 10, 2020 17:11:29 GMT
The BBT Forum has spoken. Seven voters' rankings average a 7.4 for Al Jardine's A Postcard From California.
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Post by zinczag on Aug 11, 2020 15:07:14 GMT
Count 8th vote by this Al Jardine fan.👍 Album is big fave, especially after the past year's trip to NorCal, San Francisco!!! Many fun cool joyful memories. I realized the biggest dream, yay!!! Now saving up to visit L.A. But, I sidetrack. The single track which is least favorite here is "And I Always Will". Usually tend to lean towards fast upbeat romantic-free songs. It's kinda nice & Al *can* sing ballads well. Anyhoo, the remainder is perfect.😎 10.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Aug 11, 2020 15:13:16 GMT
The BBT Forum has spoken. Seven voters' rankings average a 7.4 for Al Jardine's A Postcard From California.I'm very surprised by these results. I'm just guessing that with a 7.4 rating, A Postcard From California would rank very high on the list of BB solo albums. I don't know if that has more to do with the strength of the album or the weakness of the rest of them, but 7.4 ain't too shabby.
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Post by Kapitan on Aug 11, 2020 15:16:32 GMT
I think it's a solid ranking, though I'm less surprised. Over the years most of the comments I've seen on the album were along the lines of "it sounds good, Al sings great, but too many covers (and self covers) ... but I like it." So good/not great. A 7.4 is along those lines, especially when you consider many fans tend to give what I consider high scores to things they see as flawed but listenable (e.g. "it's OK ... I'll give it an 8," whereas I'd say "it's OK ... I'll give it a 5").
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