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Post by kds on Feb 4, 2022 13:36:20 GMT
God, there's nostalgia for Y2K?
I think the fact that CDs are considerably cheaper than LPs has probably helped their popularity.
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Post by Kapitan on Feb 4, 2022 13:41:06 GMT
God, there's nostalgia for Y2K? Seems crazy, doesn't it? But there was plenty of 50s nostalgia in the 70s, and 60s nostalgia in the 80s, so...
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Post by kds on Feb 4, 2022 13:53:10 GMT
God, there's nostalgia for Y2K? Seems crazy, doesn't it? But there was plenty of 50s nostalgia in the 70s, and 60s nostalgia in the 80s, so... I'm still getting used to the idea of 90s nostalgia. There are several local 90s cover bands in our area. Yuck.
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Post by Kapitan on Feb 4, 2022 13:57:12 GMT
Seems crazy, doesn't it? But there was plenty of 50s nostalgia in the 70s, and 60s nostalgia in the 80s, so... I'm still getting used to the idea of 90s nostalgia. There are several local 90s cover bands in our area. Yuck. For so many people, their teenage or early 20s years are always the good old days when everything was so cool, so exciting. It's funny. But yeah, I read reviews with people looking back fondly on "classics" ... and it's NSYNC, or 50 Cent, or Dave Matthews Band, or whatever. Seems odd to me, but I suppose in the 70s, there were probably people in their 70s wondering why all these people in their 30s or 40s were so nostalgic for those no-talent greasers from the 50s rather than "the good stuff" from the 30s!
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Post by kds on Feb 4, 2022 14:01:20 GMT
I'm still getting used to the idea of 90s nostalgia. There are several local 90s cover bands in our area. Yuck. For so many people, their teenage or early 20s years are always the good old days when everything was so cool, so exciting. It's funny. But yeah, I read reviews with people looking back fondly on "classics" ... and it's NSYNC, or 50 Cent, or Dave Matthews Band, or whatever. Seems odd to me, but I suppose in the 70s, there were probably people in their 70s wondering why all these people in their 30s or 40s were so nostalgic for those no-talent greasers from the 50s rather than "the good stuff" from the 30s! I'm actually somewhat jealous of those people. I look back on the music of my late teens and early 20s with a certain level of disgust. Whenever I mention about the state of modern music, to people who haven't heard me talk about music for more than ten minutes, one of the responses I get is "well, we all like what we grew up with." Not me, that shit was terrible. One of my uncles might somewhat fall into that category. He was born in 1951, but never really got into much contemporary music past the late 60s.
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Post by Kapitan on Feb 4, 2022 14:09:54 GMT
I'm along the same lines as you, but not quite to the same extent. I really enjoyed contemporary music through at least the early 90s, so really my junior year or so of high school. Nirvana broke a couple of years earlier, and I didn't like them or anything else from Seattle or its followers, but there was still plenty that I did like.
By college or so (fall of '94), I turned my back pretty sharply on what was contemporary for almost 10 year.
In hindsight, I can't say that I think that late 80s or early 90s music was the best music or anything like that. But I can still see what I enjoyed (or still enjoy sometimes) about it. The best ever, though? For the most part I've got the taste of a Boomer, not the younger-side GenXer I am. The latter half of the '60s strike me as the best few years in pop/rock music history.
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Post by kds on Feb 4, 2022 14:17:01 GMT
I'm along the same lines as you, but not quite to the same extent. I really enjoyed contemporary music through at least the early 90s, so really my junior year or so of high school. Nirvana broke a couple of years earlier, and I didn't like them or anything else from Seattle or its followers, but there was still plenty that I did like.
By college or so (fall of '94), I turned my back pretty sharply on what was contemporary for almost 10 year.
In hindsight, I can't say that I think that late 80s or early 90s music was the best music or anything like that. But I can still see what I enjoyed (or still enjoy sometimes) about it. The best ever, though? For the most part I've got the taste of a Boomer, not the younger-side GenXer I am. The latter half of the '60s strike me as the best few years in pop/rock music history.
Yeah, I thought contemporary music was OK in the early 1990s, but it was my late HS years and most of my college years where it really went into the shitter IMO. But, that music did push me to get more and more into the music of the 60s and 70s....but I probably would've gotten into that stuff anyway.
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Post by Kapitan on Mar 1, 2022 13:49:33 GMT
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Post by Kapitan on Apr 5, 2022 18:45:52 GMT
Bon Jovi was in town a couple of days ago. Now, there is no time since maybe 1988 or '89 that I'd have wanted to see them, having not really ever been that big a fan except in the aftermath of Slippery When Wet, when I was 12-13.
Anyway, point being, this review is not at all kind to Jon Bon Jovi! Serious criticism of his "shockingly poor" vocals. "Quite frankly, it felt like he had forgotten how to sing."
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Post by kds on Apr 5, 2022 18:51:09 GMT
Bon Jovi was in town a couple of days ago. Now, there is no time since maybe 1988 or '89 that I'd have wanted to see them, having not really ever been that big a fan except in the aftermath of Slippery When Wet, when I was 12-13.
Anyway, point being, this review is not at all kind to Jon Bon Jovi! Serious criticism of his "shockingly poor" vocals. "Quite frankly, it felt like he had forgotten how to sing." For the most part, I checked out on Bon Jovi after the 2003 Bounce album. I've heard a few songs here and there off each album since, and haven't liked a one. I saw a setlist from a recent Bon Jovi show, and I probably didn't recognize 40% of the setlist. I'm really glad I saw them back in 2001. The setlist wasn't yet clogged up with junk like Who Says You Can't Go Home. And, of course, Richie Sambora was still around.
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Post by Kapitan on Apr 5, 2022 18:58:04 GMT
One thing I found interesting in that review I linked was the comments on the setlist, which apparently did what many serious fans of legacy artists so often wish for: more new material! I'd have guessed a Bon Jovi setlist would be mostly Slippery through Keep the Faith, with just some other hits sprinkled in. So I guess good for ... whoever wants that other stuff?
But I hadn't heard anything about JBJ's voice being so (apparently) awful. I wonder how much of that is an off night, versus an ongoing issue. Frankly I just don't pay them any attention.
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Post by kds on Apr 5, 2022 19:09:40 GMT
One thing I found interesting in that review I linked was the comments on the setlist, which apparently did what many serious fans of legacy artists so often wish for: more new material! I'd have guessed a Bon Jovi setlist would be mostly Slippery through Keep the Faith, with just some other hits sprinkled in. So I guess good for ... whoever wants that other stuff?
But I hadn't heard anything about JBJ's voice being so (apparently) awful. I wonder how much of that is an off night, versus an ongoing issue. Frankly I just don't pay them any attention.
Could possibly be shaking off some rust. I don't think Bon Jovi has played live since before COVID. Wouldn't you know it? One of the few legacy artists that I like who actually balances new and old material in concert is one whose newer material really holds no appeal to me.
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Post by Kapitan on Jul 8, 2022 13:41:31 GMT
I believe I mentioned this audiobook once before somewhere, but I bought it not too long ago and am almost through it now. (I only listen now and again, usually while making dinner or something.) I wanted to mention it again, especially for any fans of Paul Simon or of songwriting more generally.
The audiobook--and it is only an audiobook, or really more an extended podcast--is Miracle and Wonder, done by Malcolm Gladwell with and about Paul Simon. In it, Gladwell and his colleague interview Simon about his career, but especially about songwriting and recording. The topics are more about his solo work than his Simon & Garfunkel work, and they can be quite specific and interesting, not always about the better known music, either.
Here is a 20-minute excerpt that's on YouTube.
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Post by Kapitan on Jul 8, 2022 13:58:21 GMT
I took a look at the revivified Creem's new music reviews this morning. There is certainly some of the spirit of those '70s music writing icons Lester Bangs and (the insane) Robert Christgau in there. It's irreverent, snarky, and not always especially on point. It's self-indulgent, too, the kind of thing I almost certainly would have not only thoroughly enjoyed, but wanted to engage in myself at one point.
For example, here is the new Megadeth album review in full:
Another writer purportedly reviews the Dio Holy Diver deluxe reissue, but uses the space to tell an anecdote about Ronnie James Dio being pompous. But then it's too long, so he also uses the space designated for a Journey album review and a The Deslonds album review to finish it (and tell another one). Disrespectful to be sure, but in its own way, kind of an interesting way to write.
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Post by kds on Jul 8, 2022 14:04:35 GMT
Goddammit, my eyes again. Sorry, I couldn't help the involuntary eye roll when I read "Those records slapppppp." I know, I know, "get off my lawn" yada yada.
I also tire of the stuff, usually written by fans, about later releases by metal icons. Yeah, we know it doesn't sound like they're earlier stuff, these are men in their 50s, 60s, and some cases 70s. Unless you're AC/DC, Motorhead, or Slayer, your music's going to grow old with you to an extent.
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