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Post by lonelysummer on Sept 5, 2019 5:57:06 GMT
A few of my preferred lineups... The Beach Boys - Brian Wilson, Carl Wilson, Dennis Wilson, Mike Love, Alan Jardine Fleetwood Mac - Mick Fleetwood, John McVie, Christine McVie, Lindsey Buckingham, Stevie Nicks Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers - Tom Petty, Mike Campbell, Benmont Tench, Howie Epstein, Stan Lynch I'd agree with that. Howie added a lot when he joined the group - great harmony singer and bassist and sometimes guitarist. I think the group dropped down a notch or so without Howie or Stan. Just my opinion. FM is a unique story - what most people recognize now as the classic lineup only happened after the group had been at it nearly a decade. I think it's important to recognize the contributions of Peter Green, Jeremy Spencer, Danny Kirwin and Bob Welch, but yes, for most people, FM will always be the Rumours lineup.
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Post by kds on Sept 5, 2019 12:16:39 GMT
Depending on one's tastes, when it comes to Genesis, most either gravitate to:
The prog era with Peter Gabriel, Steve Hackett, Phil Collins, Tony Banks, and Mike Rutherford
or
The pop / rock hit machine of Collins, Banks, and Rutherford
But, my favorite album of theirs (Trick of the Tail) is from the short lived four man lineup of Hackett, Collins, Banks, Rutherford
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Post by Kapitan on Sept 5, 2019 13:09:18 GMT
OK, I got behind yesterday here and in other threads. Time allowing, I’ll get caught up. For this one, let’s see… My dream lineup for a BW Band (using his actual band members, I mean … not dream lineup oveall), per B.E.’s post. Probably something like Darian Sahanaja on vocals, keyboards, and vibes (and songwriting … how has he not co-written with Brian?); Scott Bennett on vocals, keyboards, guitars, and vibes (and songwriting); Probyn Gregory on the kitchen sink; Nick Walusko on vocals and guitars; Bret Simons, bass and vocals; Todd Sucherman, drums; Brian Eichenberger, vocals and guitar; Matt Jardine, vocals (and if he wants to hold a guitar, that’s fine); Mike D’Amico, aux percussion and vocals; Al Jardine, vocals, white suit, and inaudible guitar; Brian Wilson, optional. My favorite Beach Boys lineup has to be the one that put out their best albums, so I’d go with the 1965-71 lineup of Brian, Mike, Al, Carl, Dennis, and Bruce. Then I have two other bands with various lineups to introduce: King Crimson isn’t a band I have much time for anymore, but I used to be a big fan of both the prog masterpiece of their debut album and Adrian Belew, a member in the 80s, more generally (though more for his solo work than his King Crimson work). That band has had I think probably more than 20 members in total, ranging from trios to double-trios to large bands with winds, etc. (I personally like the first album most, so I’d have to say that’s the lineup I prefer, I guess.) Surprised nobody has mentioned this, but … The Rolling Stones! They haven’t had massive turnover, but they had a few eras with distinct sounds. There is the original Brian Jones era, the Mick Taylor era from the late 60s through the mid 70s, and the Ronnie Wood era thereafter. One could argue the departure of bassist Bill Wyman in the early 90s (replaced by Darryl Jones) initiates another era, but I don’t think that difference was as significant, especially since they basically weren’t an actively creative band by that time anyway. My personal favorite is the Mick Taylor era. I can’t say it’s him specifically, and in fact I’d probably credit the production of Jimmy Miller and the strength of the Jagger-Richards songwriting of that era more than anything. I think there is a popular sentiment for the Brian Jones era, and for Jones specifically. But I’m going to point again to the tortured artist bias, not unlike the Syd Barrett discussion earlier (though Jones lasted longer with his group). Talented, yes, but self-destructive, nowhere near his own potential, and a detractor from the group by the end of his life to the point that he was fired shortly before dying. I think the loss of Jones put the focus where it belonged, which was on the Jagger-Richards core.
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Post by kds on Sept 5, 2019 13:27:09 GMT
As much as I like Brian Jones, I tend to go for the Jagger, Richards, Watts, Wyman Taylor era Stones.
Iron Maiden actually had a new lineup for each of their first four albums, before settling on the "classic" lineup of Bruce Dickison, Steve Harris, Nicko McBrain, Dave Murray, and Adrian Smith. Smith left in 1990 to be replaced by Janick Gers. Dickinson left in 1992.
Dickinson and Smith both returned in 1999, but rather than jettison Gers, they went with a three lead guitar lineup. So, my favorite Maiden lineup is the current one of Dickinson, Harris, McBrian, Murray, Smith, and Jers.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Sept 5, 2019 15:24:13 GMT
My dream lineup for a BW Band (using his actual band members, I mean … not dream lineup oveall), per B.E.’s post. Probably something like Darian Sahanaja on vocals, keyboards, and vibes (and songwriting … how has he not co-written with Brian?); Scott Bennett on vocals, keyboards, guitars, and vibes (and songwriting); Probyn Gregory on the kitchen sink; Nick Walusko on vocals and guitars; Bret Simons, bass and vocals; Todd Sucherman, drums; Brian Eichenberger, vocals and guitar; Matt Jardine, vocals (and if he wants to hold a guitar, that’s fine); Mike D’Amico, aux percussion and vocals; Al Jardine, vocals, white suit, and inaudible guitar; Brian Wilson, optional. Love the humor! Agree with every selection except one. Back in the day, Matt Jardine did an excellent job singing the high parts. But I think he's been slipping for, well, years now. My personal preference has always been Jeff Foskett. I always liked his voice, and thought that he could go high more naturally than the other Brian imitators.
Oh, and hard to believe that Ron Wood has been in the Stones since 1975...44 years!
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Post by Kapitan on Sept 5, 2019 15:50:14 GMT
I’m fine with Foskett, too, but I feel about him the way you seem to about M Jardine: declining. (No surprise, as falsetto vocals are tough on aging singers and he’s been at it a long while.)
If I were swapping out Matt, I’d probably opt for Taylor Mills. Or really probably some unknown who’s 20 years old...
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Sept 5, 2019 17:21:34 GMT
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Post by Kapitan on Sept 5, 2019 17:25:41 GMT
Shemp can go fuck himself.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Sept 5, 2019 17:50:41 GMT
Shemp can go fuck himself. ...dem's fightin' words!
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Post by lonelysummer on Sept 6, 2019 2:51:46 GMT
OK, I got behind yesterday here and in other threads. Time allowing, I’ll get caught up. For this one, let’s see… My dream lineup for a BW Band (using his actual band members, I mean … not dream lineup oveall), per B.E.’s post. Probably something like Darian Sahanaja on vocals, keyboards, and vibes (and songwriting … how has he not co-written with Brian?); Scott Bennett on vocals, keyboards, guitars, and vibes (and songwriting); Probyn Gregory on the kitchen sink; Nick Walusko on vocals and guitars; Bret Simons, bass and vocals; Todd Sucherman, drums; Brian Eichenberger, vocals and guitar; Matt Jardine, vocals (and if he wants to hold a guitar, that’s fine); Mike D’Amico, aux percussion and vocals; Al Jardine, vocals, white suit, and inaudible guitar; Brian Wilson, optional. My favorite Beach Boys lineup has to be the one that put out their best albums, so I’d go with the 1965-71 lineup of Brian, Mike, Al, Carl, Dennis, and Bruce. Then I have two other bands with various lineups to introduce: King Crimson isn’t a band I have much time for anymore, but I used to be a big fan of both the prog masterpiece of their debut album and Adrian Belew, a member in the 80s, more generally (though more for his solo work than his King Crimson work). That band has had I think probably more than 20 members in total, ranging from trios to double-trios to large bands with winds, etc. (I personally like the first album most, so I’d have to say that’s the lineup I prefer, I guess.) Surprised nobody has mentioned this, but … The Rolling Stones! They haven’t had massive turnover, but they had a few eras with distinct sounds. There is the original Brian Jones era, the Mick Taylor era from the late 60s through the mid 70s, and the Ronnie Wood era thereafter. One could argue the departure of bassist Bill Wyman in the early 90s (replaced by Darryl Jones) initiates another era, but I don’t think that difference was as significant, especially since they basically weren’t an actively creative band by that time anyway. My personal favorite is the Mick Taylor era. I can’t say it’s him specifically, and in fact I’d probably credit the production of Jimmy Miller and the strength of the Jagger-Richards songwriting of that era more than anything. I think there is a popular sentiment for the Brian Jones era, and for Jones specifically. But I’m going to point again to the tortured artist bias, not unlike the Syd Barrett discussion earlier (though Jones lasted longer with his group). Talented, yes, but self-destructive, nowhere near his own potential, and a detractor from the group by the end of his life to the point that he was fired shortly before dying. I think the loss of Jones put the focus where it belonged, which was on the Jagger-Richards core. I think Brian Jones is one of the most overrated rock legends ever. Dying young will do that for you. The Stones made great music during his tenure, and after. Even the more recent albums usually have a few 'keepers' on them.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Sept 6, 2019 13:31:50 GMT
Has a rock & roll band gone through as many changes (tragically in most cases) as Lynyrd Skynyrd and still continued to record and tour successfully?
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Post by Kapitan on Sept 7, 2019 0:09:24 GMT
Or had as much hair?
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Sept 7, 2019 1:27:50 GMT
Here's one for ya.
I've seen Chicago in concert four or five times since 1989, always opening for the Beach Boys, and they put on a great set. Very entertaining and professional. Replacements Jason Scheff, Bill Champlin, Tris Imboden, and a couple of the later guitarists did a great job. But you don't replace a Terry Kath and Peter Cetera IMHO. Original drummer Danny Seraphine was no slouch either.
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