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Queen
Sept 12, 2022 22:46:55 GMT
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Post by Kapitan on Sept 12, 2022 22:46:55 GMT
Just in case you've forgotten how good a singer Freddie Mercury was. Vocals from "Love of My Life."
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Post by kds on Oct 7, 2022 16:14:34 GMT
The "new" Queen song - Face It Alone - is set to be released next week, on October 13.
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Post by kds on Oct 13, 2022 12:46:13 GMT
Big day for Queen fans. On the same day they officially announce a deluxe reissue of The Miracle (1989), the "new" Queen song Face It Alone. Even more exciting, Face It Alone is one of six previously unreleased songs that will be featured on the reissues. The Miracle doesn't rank too highly on my favorite Queen album list, but I'll probably get the 2 CD version to get the six "new" songs. www.queenonline.com/news/press-release-queen-the-miracle-collectors-editionI've listened to Face It Alone a couple times already. The song is actually pretty sparse, especially for later era Queen. But, no surprise here, Freddie's performance is amazing.
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Queen
Oct 13, 2022 12:59:59 GMT
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Post by Kapitan on Oct 13, 2022 12:59:59 GMT
I'm really surprised that one was kept in the can this long. It's not their greatest song, but for a "lost in the archives" kind of thing? Pretty damn good.
It is surprising how sparse it is. I wonder--the press release doesn't say--did they touch up those leftovers for release, or are they being put out in the state they were left back in 1989? I look forward to hearing the others, as well as seeing that hypothetical follow-up to The Miracle.
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Queen
Oct 13, 2022 13:22:14 GMT
Post by kds on Oct 13, 2022 13:22:14 GMT
I'm really surprised that one was kept in the can this long. It's not their greatest song, but for a "lost in the archives" kind of thing? Pretty damn good.
It is surprising how sparse it is. I wonder--the press release doesn't say--did they touch up those leftovers for release, or are they being put out in the state they were left back in 1989? I look forward to hearing the others, as well as seeing that hypothetical follow-up to The Miracle.
Roger Taylor claims that he and Brian "forgot about it." Which might explain why it was never resurrected for Made in Heaven, Queen Rocks, the Forever comp, etc. I remember when it was first announced back in June, there were vague statements made about retouching it, but I'm not sure if that was just mixing it a bit, or Brian and / or Roger adding anything new. I'm guessing more details will emerge or be in the liner notes.
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Queen
Oct 13, 2022 13:29:47 GMT
Post by Kapitan on Oct 13, 2022 13:29:47 GMT
"Forgot" would be believable had they not done Made In Heaven. But it's awfully hard to believe that at that time they forgot about it. They must have remembered what was more or less in the can when they were putting that together, considering it was an archival project and happened only a few years after those sessions. They may have forgotten since then, but they must have been aware of it circa 1995 ... and it's hard to believe they didn't catalog everything available at that time.
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Post by kds on Oct 13, 2022 13:36:30 GMT
"Forgot" would be believable had they not done Made In Heaven. But it's awfully hard to believe that at that time they forgot about it. They must have remembered what was more or less in the can when they were putting that together, considering it was an archival project and happened only a few years after those sessions. They may have forgotten since then, but they must have been aware of it circa 1995 ... and it's hard to believe they didn't catalog everything available at that time. I actually think the fact that it wasn't included on Made in Heaven lends credence to Roger's story. I think that song would've fit that album very well, so I would be surprised if they considered it at the time, and it didn't make the cut. Especially since a couple Miracle era outtakes did make the album. On a side note, I'd love a detailed article, book, doc on the making of Made In Heaven. It's not my favorite Queen album by a long shot, but I find it perhaps the most fascinating.
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Queen
Oct 13, 2022 13:40:33 GMT
Post by Kapitan on Oct 13, 2022 13:40:33 GMT
"Forgot" would be believable had they not done Made In Heaven. But it's awfully hard to believe that at that time they forgot about it. They must have remembered what was more or less in the can when they were putting that together, considering it was an archival project and happened only a few years after those sessions. They may have forgotten since then, but they must have been aware of it circa 1995 ... and it's hard to believe they didn't catalog everything available at that time. I actually think the fact that it wasn't included on Made in Heaven lends credence to Roger's story. I think that song would've fit that album very well, so I would be surprised if they considered it at the time, and it didn't make the cut. Especially since a couple Miracle era outtakes did make the album. On a side note, I'd love a detailed article, book, doc on the making of Made In Heaven. It's not my favorite Queen album by a long shot, but I find it perhaps the most fascinating. But you think THREE GUYS, working just five years or so after having recorded it, while mining that very era for available music, ALL forgot about it entirely? That just seems so hard to imagine. Unless maybe it was something Freddie more or less did on his own and so it didn't leave as much a mark in their minds. But considering his workload was drastically reduced compared to theirs due to his health at the time, that also seems unlikely: I'd guess one of them, if not most of them, were in the studio anytime Freddie was in the studio in those final years.
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Queen
Oct 13, 2022 13:47:47 GMT
Post by kds on Oct 13, 2022 13:47:47 GMT
I actually think the fact that it wasn't included on Made in Heaven lends credence to Roger's story. I think that song would've fit that album very well, so I would be surprised if they considered it at the time, and it didn't make the cut. Especially since a couple Miracle era outtakes did make the album. On a side note, I'd love a detailed article, book, doc on the making of Made In Heaven. It's not my favorite Queen album by a long shot, but I find it perhaps the most fascinating. But you think THREE GUYS, working just five years or so after having recorded it, while mining that very era for available music, ALL forgot about it entirely? That just seems so hard to imagine. Unless maybe it was something Freddie more or less did on his own and so it didn't leave as much a mark in their minds. But considering his workload was drastically reduced compared to theirs due to his health at the time, that also seems unlikely: I'd guess one of them, if not most of them, were in the studio anytime Freddie was in the studio in those final years. Just pure speculation on my part. I just can't imagine Brian, Roger, and John would've been aware of that song, and that Freddie performance, and/or not had it included on the album, or even used on any of the comps that have come out over the years. Either way, I'm kind of glad they didn't. Freddie's been gone over 30 years now, so hearing anything new with his vocals in late 2022 is pretty damn cool.
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Queen
Oct 13, 2022 13:59:42 GMT
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Post by Kapitan on Oct 13, 2022 13:59:42 GMT
Absolutely, it is great to have it now. In a way, better than having it earlier, just in that if everything decent had truly been released--as they had said in the past more than once, hadn't they?--we'd have nothing else to look forward to.
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Queen
Oct 13, 2022 14:12:51 GMT
Post by kds on Oct 13, 2022 14:12:51 GMT
Absolutely, it is great to have it now. In a way, better than having it earlier, just in that if everything decent had truly been released--as they had said in the past more than once, hadn't they?--we'd have nothing else to look forward to. Yep, I think they said something like that when the Forever comp was released in 2014, which featured Let Me In Your Heart Again and There Must Be More to Life Than This (featuring Michael Jackson). I do remember reading that there's another Queen / Bowie collaboration, it might've been an alternate version of Back Chat or Cool Cat.
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Queen
Oct 13, 2022 14:44:08 GMT
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Post by Kapitan on Oct 13, 2022 14:44:08 GMT
So it seems that it wasn't exactly forgotten, but more that it was in a state that they figured wasn't releasable. And then when they revisited it, they decided they could indeed put it together. That does make more sense.
Depending on the exact details of what had to be done to get it ready for release, it's also possible that what they were able to do in 2022 was technically not possible (or at least much harder) in 1995. Obviously the technology around digital recording, editing, mixing, etc., is a wholly different world from what it was in the mid-90s, even for those artists with virtually unlimited resources such as Queen.
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Queen
Oct 13, 2022 15:36:49 GMT
Post by kds on Oct 13, 2022 15:36:49 GMT
So it seems that it wasn't exactly forgotten, but more that it was in a state that they figured wasn't releasable. And then when they revisited it, they decided they could indeed put it together. That does make more sense.
Depending on the exact details of what had to be done to get it ready for release, it's also possible that what they were able to do in 2022 was technically not possible (or at least much harder) in 1995. Obviously the technology around digital recording, editing, mixing, etc., is a wholly different world from what it was in the mid-90s, even for those artists with virtually unlimited resources such as Queen.
That explanation seems to make more sense than Roger's (which could've been an off the cuff remark for all I know).
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Queen
Oct 13, 2022 15:40:04 GMT
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Post by Kapitan on Oct 13, 2022 15:40:04 GMT
I think both could be true, but when Roger says "we forgot about it," he may well not have meant they literally forgot that it existed, but they forgot about the nuances of its state of completion. Something like that.
Anyway, yeah, I think Brian's story seems more complete, anyway.
I hope they do explain what they did (if anything) to the various newly released songs. I don't mind them touching them up however they saw fit, I just would be very interested in knowing what it was.
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Post by kds on Oct 13, 2022 16:53:50 GMT
I think both could be true, but when Roger says "we forgot about it," he may well not have meant they literally forgot that it existed, but they forgot about the nuances of its state of completion. Something like that.
Anyway, yeah, I think Brian's story seems more complete, anyway.
I hope they do explain what they did (if anything) to the various newly released songs. I don't mind them touching them up however they saw fit, I just would be very interested in knowing what it was.
Same here. Either in the liner notes or some EPKs on their YouTube channel. I wonder if this reissue means that more Miracle songs might be played live by Queen + Adam Lambert. As far as I know, the only song from that album to be done live was I Want It All. I'd really like to hear the title track, Was It All Worth It, Rain Must Fall, or Breakthru in concert. One of the cooler things I think The Doors did when they reformed as Doors of the 21st Century was an LA Woman tour. Robbie and Ray said that since Jim went to Paris and never came back, they never got to properly tour the LA Woman album. But, around 2002, they did a tour with a setlist that mirrored what a 1971 LA Woman Tour would've been like. I think it would be pretty cool to see Q+AL do something similar for The Miracle, Innuendo, or even Made in Heaven, since those albums were not toured.
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