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Post by The Cincinnati Kid on Nov 24, 2020 22:11:58 GMT
According to Howie, he gave some really good interviews about the boxset, so his statement is pretty questionable.
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Post by Kapitan on Nov 24, 2020 22:19:56 GMT
According to Howie, he gave some really good interviews about the boxset, so his statement is pretty questionable. This is just me messing around now, so don't take me too seriously. Pure speculation.
It's entirely possible that Brian gets interviewed a year, two years ago about this. And he gives great interviews. And that he still isn't "involved" in the set in any real sense. Maybe he didn't connect the older interview with the product in question. Maybe he didn't recall the name of it, and so drew a blank.
Or maybe he just wasn't interested in risking getting drawn into any conversations about the intraband politics that delayed it and so, as he often used to do with Smile, he played dumb.
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Post by B.E. on Nov 24, 2020 22:26:18 GMT
I also want to say real quickly, without delving into it, that public comments like that from Brian, while somewhat disturbing, ease my mind to the whole "Brian is controlled" narrative. If Melinda (and whoever else) were controlling Brian (to such an extent) why would they allow statements like that out? (Or is their scheme that elaborate?)
That's all. I just can't help but think of these things having been a fan and read the forums for as long as I have.
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Post by Kapitan on Nov 24, 2020 22:33:04 GMT
(Or is their scheme that elaborate?)
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Nov 25, 2020 0:31:21 GMT
I also want to say real quickly, without delving into it, that public comments like that from Brian, while somewhat disturbing, ease my mind to the whole "Brian is controlled" narrative. If Melinda (and whoever else) were controlling Brian (to such an extent) why would they allow statements like that out? (Or is their scheme that elaborate?) That's all. I just can't help but think of these things having been a fan and read the forums for as long as I have. No scheme. It's Brian just not even being aware of one of the biggest and most anticipated compilation/boxed set/archival release in the history of The Beach Boys (do I sound like Howie Edelman?). I wouldn't think Melinda is shielding him from anything, just Brian not giving a damn, then his team eventually deceiving the public into thinking he was "all in", emotionally involved, and calling the shots. Yes, I believe he was interviewed for the project, but to Brian, he was probably approaching it as more talking about Sunflower and/or Surf's Up than being interviewed for an upcoming boxed set. I seriously wonder what input Brian had other than that interview. Also, I'm not too sure that Brian is more motivated or excited about talking about his solo albums than Beach Boys' albums. Judging by the interviews I've seen, no, I can't say that.
I've learned somewhat to expect and accept Brian's non-involvement, but not entirely. I still wish he cared.
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Post by B.E. on Nov 25, 2020 0:43:02 GMT
(do I sound like Howie Edelman?) Yeah, a little!
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Post by B.E. on Nov 25, 2020 17:34:25 GMT
Just relaying Howie's post at SSMB today: "I just did another interview for the project with Brian on Friday. Brian knows all about Feel Flows."
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Nov 25, 2020 17:43:42 GMT
Just relaying Howie's post at SSMB today: "I just did another interview for the project with Brian on Friday. Brian knows all about Feel Flows." I thought I read a while back - from Howie - that everything with Feel Flows was completed including the liner notes. Maybe this new interview is for future marketing/advertising. I'll bet Brian had a lot of interesting comments (as I look for an eyes-rolling emoticon...)
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Post by Kapitan on Jan 8, 2021 18:40:55 GMT
This is a roughly 2-year-old interview with Billy Hinsche that I just came across today. Starting around 30 minutes into the (hour and 9 minute) interview is where he starts talking Beach Boys. He talks about being asked to join as a full member and about being present for the recording of Smile, at least so far. (I am only 45 minutes in.)
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Post by Kapitan on Feb 2, 2021 23:48:36 GMT
This was posted last summer but I missed it: it's footage from 98ish, first with Brian being interviewed about Rodney Bingenheimer and then talking to Elvis Costello. I skipped to the Costello section, and based on the beginning of that, it seems to be from after he'd finished recording, but before he'd released, Imagination.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Feb 3, 2021 0:57:44 GMT
This was posted last summer but I missed it: it's footage from 98ish, first with Brian being interviewed about Rodney Bingenheimer and then talking to Elvis Costello. I skipped to the Costello section, and based on the beginning of that, it seems to be from after he'd finished recording, but before he'd released, Imagination.
Wow! That is priceless. Valuable. That seems like a true picture of Brian, of who Brian was at that particular time. I'm very surprised at how lucid and patient he was during the interview. He was actually thoughtful at times and really wanted to please. That was a long, drawn-out interview. I had a feeling Phil Spector continued to...preoccupy his thoughts. That's quite an obsession. And then we have the socially awkward, emoting, "never know what is going to come out of his mouth" Brian (with Elvis Costello). The Beach Boys were his Del-Vikings? OK. Elvis was very understanding, which most people are around Brian.
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Post by Kapitan on Feb 4, 2021 19:52:12 GMT
It was certainly one of the more interesting things I've seen of Brian in recent years. It's really something how often he says something that is out of nowhere, showing either he doesn't understand the question being asked or would rather awkwardly deflect it. (My guess is the former, but I don't know. That's just based on watching and listening.)
But he really is the king of the non sequitur.
Also it is worth noting for the fans who believe he's involved in the reissue sets that, at least with the ones around at the time (the PS box in particular), he seems flabbergasted that there were session snippets available. First he asks "how did you get your hands on that!?" And then when told (repeatedly) it's on a commercially released product by the band, he seems amazed and surprised.
I'm not saying he isn't really interviewed in preparation for these things, or that he doesn't sometimes say amazing things in that context (e.g. people talking about how great his memory has been in the preparation for the endlessly delayed Feel Flows set). But at least in the late 90s, he certainly wasn't putting together all the pieces and keeping track of what was being put together and released. I'm guessing he didn't labor over potential track lists for FF, or strenuously argue for or against this or that. In fact, I'd bet money that he's more likely to not recall its existence than to be seriously invested in it.
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Post by Kapitan on Mar 2, 2021 20:53:07 GMT
Well that's one I didn't see coming: linguist and occasional cultural commentator John McWhorter (whom I love) is prone to mentioning showtunes from time to time, but on his latest Lexicon Valley (linguistics) podcast, he gives some unexpected love to "Wouldn't It Be Nice"!
It's in the context of the etymology of the word "company," and, well, you can listen if you want. It's just a couple of minutes' worth. Check it out beginning around 27:00. If you want context, start earlier. But it's a nice name-check and mini-analysis from someone entirely unexpected.
(By the way, "company?" "With" and "Bread," basically. It meant something like "break bread with." Originally probably a Germanic word, but this is a Latinization.)
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Post by Kapitan on Mar 13, 2021 21:18:11 GMT
Far from new as a 2011 interview, but it's the first time I've listened to this interview in which Alice Cooper says the first album he ever bought was ... All Summer Long, by the Beach Boys. It is cued up (but 3:31 in case it doesn't work for you). But his memory is a little fuzzy, I'd think. He says he was "12, 13" and would save up lawn-mowing money on things like that album. He wasn't quite so young when ASL was released: born in 1948, young Mr. Furnier would've been more like 16. Not so big a difference for those of us a few decades beyond it, but ask a 16-year-old how similar s/he is to a 12-year-old.
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Post by Kapitan on Mar 18, 2021 11:58:09 GMT
"Larry and I have been working on this project, which we affectionately call “Waves of Love 2.0.” There’s a “Waves of Love” on an album, A Postcard from California, that I released a number of years ago—it is also going to be re-released on UMG this coming September. “Waves of Love” was originally a bonus track on that album. So folks are getting a sample of the East Coast version."
Al: please stop with "Waves of Love," already. No amount of fiddling will make it more than ok/mediocre.
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