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Post by kds on Oct 5, 2020 19:01:39 GMT
Hypnotic Eye is a little more like it, and a lot more in tune with later era Petty.
All in all, my opinion isn't too different. I have a greater appreciation for Petty's prime era albums, not quite so much with his post Greatest Hits output. Like piggy back on BE's assessment of Petty's albums, he doesn't have that Pet Sounds, Dark Side of the Moon, Born to Run "every home should have one" kind of album, but some very good ones, and a catalog full of great songs.
I'll say I'm thankful I got to see him in person at least once.
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Post by Kapitan on Oct 17, 2020 12:48:58 GMT
Pitchfork (very positively) reviewed the new Petty Wildflowers deluxe package. Thought you may like to see it.
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Post by Kapitan on Oct 19, 2020 14:48:07 GMT
Here is a new conversation between Rick Rubin and Tom Petty (and ace session) keyboardist Benmont Tench, released to coincide with the Wildflowers deluxe package.
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Post by B.E. on Oct 19, 2020 15:25:41 GMT
They are really going all out promoting this release. I also noticed another Broken Records conversation featuring Rick and one of Tom's relatives. I wish the Beach Boys would learn something from Tom's estate. (Or the Beatles - there's been a lot exciting news coming from those camps recently. More on that in the Beatles thread, at some point.)
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Post by Kapitan on Oct 19, 2020 15:27:53 GMT
(Or the Beatles - there's been a lot exciting news coming from those camps recently. More on that in the Beatles thread, at some point.) Sean has been doing a lot related to his dad's new box. I know he spoke at least with Paul about it, and with Elton, too.
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Post by kds on Mar 19, 2021 12:21:28 GMT
I wasn't sure whether to put this in the Beatles or Tom Petty thread, but yesterday afternoon, I listened to the Traveling Wilburys second album, Vol 3, for the first time in many years. And, I was reminded why it had been many years since I'd listened to it. Way too much Dylan for my taste plus paint by numbers songs. Nothing approaching greatness. I can see why a third album never happened.
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Post by Kapitan on Mar 19, 2021 12:37:11 GMT
It's been a while for me, too, but I remember finding it VERY underwhelming even when I bought it (which was maybe around 2000 ... definitely didn't hear it at the time, as it made no mark whatsoever despite its predecessor's success).
The lack of Orbison's voice was glaring.
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Post by kds on Mar 19, 2021 12:41:20 GMT
It's been a while for me, too, but I remember finding it VERY underwhelming even when I bought it (which was maybe around 2000 ... definitely didn't hear it at the time, as it made no mark whatsoever despite its predecessor's success).
The lack of Orbison's voice was glaring.
I think 2000 is around the time I got both Wilburys albums. Funny thing is I don't even recall them releasing a second album in real time. But, I remember Handle With Care, End of the Line, and Last Night from the debut were big radio songs. I used to attend a lot of Orioles games in the early 1990s, and they'd typically play highlights from the previous game between innings, backed by Last Night.
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Post by Kapitan on Mar 19, 2021 12:50:52 GMT
Exactly the same experience for me, except I actually didn't get the first album until it was released in deluxe format several years later (2007, a quick search says). As I recall, both albums had been long out of print.
I got the second album first, used, around 2000, knowing nothing at all about it. And I definitely didn't recall it from when it was released, though like everyone, I was aware of the first one. But I hadn't even been a big fan of the first one, having no time for things like Petty and Dylan back then. By the time I wanted to hear it (the first one), it was hard to find, and I found that second one.
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Post by kds on Mar 19, 2021 13:25:00 GMT
Exactly the same experience for me, except I actually didn't get the first album until it was released in deluxe format several years later (2007, a quick search says). As I recall, both albums had been long out of print.
I got the second album first, used, around 2000, knowing nothing at all about it. And I definitely didn't recall it from when it was released, though like everyone, I was aware of the first one. But I hadn't even been a big fan of the first one, having no time for things like Petty and Dylan back then. By the time I wanted to hear it (the first one), it was hard to find, and I found that second one.
I got used copies of both for Christmas in 2000 (I think). I guess we weren't aware of the existence of Vol 3 at the time because there was nothing on it that would've cracked radio or MTV at the time, and that was my primary radar for music. That's exactly the sort of lackluster album that people sometimes unfairly associate with supergroups.
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Post by B.E. on Mar 19, 2021 22:04:32 GMT
I used to attend a lot of Orioles games in the early 1990s, and they'd typically play highlights from the previous game between innings, backed by Last Night. Cool!
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Post by B.E. on Mar 19, 2021 22:20:44 GMT
As for Vol. III, it might be fair to say it's a little less accessible, ambitious, and balanced, and that it doesn't quite have the highs of the debut. Still, I enjoy it. Not a huge disparity, IMO.
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Post by B.E. on Sept 18, 2021 13:11:38 GMT
I've been listening to the Traveling Wilburys all week. Mostly Vol. III and bonus tracks ("Maxine", "Like A Ship", "Nobody's Child", and "Runaway"). In particular, I've really been enjoying Tom Petty's lead vocal on "Nobody's Child". He's singing with such richness in his lower register. I actually can't recall him singing like this, and so well, anywhere else. Hearing how great he sounds, I'm surprised he didn't sing a little more in this style.
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Post by Kapitan on Nov 9, 2021 13:06:47 GMT
Yesterday was a big anniversary for Zeppelin's fourth album; today it's 45 years since Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers released their debut album.
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Post by lonelysummer on Nov 10, 2021 4:52:36 GMT
Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers - 6.7 I'm not sure how I feel about this album: it's oddly nondescript and yet sounds exactly like an early Tom Petty album would be likely to sound. It's pretty straightforward in the way you'd guess for a debut album, not loaded with bells & whistles, yet the music does seem to cross a lot of subgenres. The first song along--"Rockin' Around (With You)"--felt like an attempt to pack in half a dozen on its own. Kind of funky, kind of power pop, a little southern drawl, and a little punky especially in that call-and-response shout vocal in the refrain. "Hey!"
That's one of my two favorites from the album, along with the obvious choice of "American Girl," which is the only song here I'd ever heard before. That one doesn't really need me to say anything. It sounds like a classic. I'd bet it sounded like a classic in 1976 the first time people heard it.
A couple of tunes--"Breakdown" and "Luna"--actually reminded me of Miles Davis's Kind of Blue with their Dorian modal (minor, basically) blues with the characteristically one-step descending motif, though the latter takes it in more directions than the former. Other songs really run the gamut: "Hometown Blues," "Strangered in the Night," and "Mystery Man," for example, don't share a lot of commonality, even though they're all identifiable as the same handful of guys. Everything has its moments, its cool bits, and yet nothing (on these songs or any others) really strikes me as good-good.
Very good debut album, but I'm a little surprised at the 4.5/5 from Allmusic, for example.
I'm very surprised you didn't know "Breakdown". That was the only song of theirs I heard on the radio until the flood of hits from "Dang the Torpedoes". I like Petty, had several friends who were heavily into his music. I have "Full Moon Fever" and "Into the Great Wide Open", have heard several others, but never collected his/their music.
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