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Post by kds on Apr 23, 2024 18:08:49 GMT
I just saw this article from UCR on best four album runs. ultimateclassicrock.com/best-four-album-run/I can't really argue with their picks for The Stones or Foreigner. For The Who, I'd have probably gone Sell Out / Tommy / Who's Next / Quadrophenia For Queen, I'd go II / Sheer Heart Attack / Night at the Opera / Day at the Races I'd do similar for Zeppelin and go II / III / IV / House of the Holy I'd probably shift The Beatles too, but not 100% sure. This is a pretty short list, but I think a gigantic glaring omission was Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon / Wish You Were Here / Animals / The Wall I'd have also included the following...... Blue Oyster Cult - Tyranny and Mutation / Secret Treaties / Agents of Fortune / Spectres Iron Maiden - Piece of Mind / Powerslave / Somewhere in Time / Seventh Son of a Seventh Son Rainbow - Self Titled / Rising / Long Live Rock and Roll / Down to Earth. I'd have included The Beach Boys had Party not been released between SDSN and Pet Sounds. Same goes for Deep Purple had Who Do We Think We Are not been released between Machine Head and Burn. Any others?
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Post by Kapitan on Apr 23, 2024 20:00:53 GMT
I'd have included The Beach Boys had Party not been released between SDSN and Pet Sounds. Same goes for Deep Purple had Who Do We Think We Are not been released between Machine Head and Burn. Any others? My first thought, before even looking at the list, was how often it seems what should be a great streak is interrupted by a live album or some kind of other misfit that breaks the continuity. And yes, that's how I look at Party. For the Beach Boys, in fact, I think their best streak would be All Summer Long through Pet Sounds, which not only is interrupted by Party, but by the Xmas album. I don't consider either one a "real" album. But then I looked at the list, and it seems they were playing fast and loose with the definition of "four consecutive albums." Because their Beatles quartet omitted Magical Mystery Tour, though I guess that's still accurate if you go by the UK discography, where it was released as a double EP instead. They skipped a live album in the Stones' and the Who's streaks, too. For others, depending on definitions, I'd say Frank Zappa's first four would be good choices: Freak Out through Lumpy Gravy. But if you want to be picky and split his solo catalog from his Mothers of Invention catalog, neither of those had a great run in that era, each interrupted by stuff I like less. The four canonical Velvet Underground album would have to rate highly for me, too. I agree with you on pushing Zeppelin back to add II and omit Physical Graffiti.
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Post by jk on Apr 23, 2024 20:05:35 GMT
Captain Beefheart: Safe as Milk / Strictly Personal / Trout Mask Replica / Lick My Decals Off, Baby Talk Talk: It's My Life / The Colour of Spring / Spirit of Eden / Laughing Stock
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Post by Kapitan on Apr 23, 2024 20:09:25 GMT
Captain Beefheart: Safe as Milk / Strictly Personal / Trout Mask Replica / Lick My Decals Off, Baby I was going to say you have omitted Mirror Man, but I remembered that while recorded on the earlier end, it was released after Decals. (I always forget that. In fact I have it filed second because that's how I think of it.) But I still can't quite agree, big fan though I am, because Decals just never struck me as on par with his best stuff. Which is crazy because I know many or most put it right up there as among his very best.
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Post by kds on Apr 23, 2024 20:25:46 GMT
I'd have included The Beach Boys had Party not been released between SDSN and Pet Sounds. Same goes for Deep Purple had Who Do We Think We Are not been released between Machine Head and Burn. Any others? My first thought, before even looking at the list, was how often it seems what should be a great streak is interrupted by a live album or some kind of other misfit that breaks the continuity. And yes, that's how I look at Party. For the Beach Boys, in fact, I think their best streak would be All Summer Long through Pet Sounds, which not only is interrupted by Party, but by the Xmas album. I don't consider either one a "real" album. But then I looked at the list, and it seems they were playing fast and loose with the definition of "four consecutive albums." Because their Beatles quartet omitted Magical Mystery Tour, though I guess that's still accurate if you go by the UK discography, where it was released as a double EP instead. They skipped a live album in the Stones' and the Who's streaks, too. For others, depending on definitions, I'd say Frank Zappa's first four would be good choices: Freak Out through Lumpy Gravy. But if you want to be picky and split his solo catalog from his Mothers of Invention catalog, neither of those had a great run in that era, each interrupted by stuff I like less. The four canonical Velvet Underground album would have to rate highly for me, too. I agree with you on pushing Zeppelin back to add II and omit Physical Graffiti. I took it solely as studio albums, as that's typically how I view a band's discography. The Beatles are a rare case in that you can just pick four, and you're not too far off base. I'd probably go Help / Rubber Soul / Revolver / Sgt. Pepper's, so even bump Help in favor of MMT (like you said going by the CD Era discography that uses the US MMT album)
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Post by Kapitan on Apr 23, 2024 20:32:05 GMT
I've been debating what direction I'd take Queen, too. Really I think their streak from Queen II through The Game was as good a 7-album stretch as anyone's ever had for that many albums. I'm not sure what I'd choose. It would have to include A Night at the Opera (which, cliched choice or not, I do think is their best album), but that doesn't really limit me much, as I could start at II, Sheer Heart Attack, or ANATO, and could go as far as Jazz, and still include that album.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Apr 23, 2024 23:45:30 GMT
As I'm contemplating this, I realize that a lot of bands had three great ones in a row, but not many had four.
I like Blue Oyster Cult's first four albums. They were some of the first albums I ever bought. My BOC fandom kinda faded after Spectres.
It seems like Led Zeppelin is a good choice. I'm not a Zeppelin diehard. Are Led Zeppelin II and III considered "great" pretty much universally?
My choice is another group I grew up with - KISS. How about these four:
1. KISS 2. Hotter Than Hell 3. Dressed To Kill 4. Destroyer
Most of KISS's compilations have several songs from those four albums, as did their setlists through the years.
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Post by kds on Apr 24, 2024 13:07:22 GMT
I've been debating what direction I'd take Queen, too. Really I think their streak from Queen II through The Game was as good a 7-album stretch as anyone's ever had for that many albums. I'm not sure what I'd choose. It would have to include A Night at the Opera (which, cliched choice or not, I do think is their best album), but that doesn't really limit me much, as I could start at II, Sheer Heart Attack, or ANATO, and could go as far as Jazz, and still include that album. I actually debated going back further to include Queen's Debut. But, if I'm being slightly objective, then I can't really sacrifice ADOTR for it. The more I think about this exercise, I keep coming back to some classic metal bands. I think for two reasons. One, I really like the genre, and I think the albums I've about to mention are legitimately great heavy metal albums. And, and this is not meant as an insult to the genre, once metal bands hit a groove, they really tend to stay in it for a bit, and bands in the genre are a bit less likely to experiment than bands in other subgenres. Black Sabbath. I'm not sure how I neglected the originators of metal, but I think their first six albums are all quite worth. But, since I think the debut looses steam at the halfway point, and I've just heard some of the songs on Paranoid too many times, I'm going. Master of Reality / Vol 4 / Sabbath Bloody Sabbath / Sabotage Scorpions. Taken By Force / Lovedrive / Animal Magnetism / Blackout Judas Priest. Sad Wings of Destiny / Sin After Sin / Stained Class / Killing Machine
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Post by lonelysummer on Apr 25, 2024 8:07:32 GMT
I've probably said this before, but the responses these kinds of threads get are not what I would expect on a Beach Boys board. What would I expect Beach Boys fans to be listening to? Well, not Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Black Sabbath, Scorpions, Judas Priest, Van Halen, AC/DC. Am I the only one hear who favors softer sounds? I kind of assumed Beach Boys fans would be listening to Jan and Dean, the Beatles, the Turtles, the Lovin' Spoonful, Paul Revere and the Raiders, Eric Carmen,
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Post by Kapitan on Apr 25, 2024 11:30:34 GMT
I think all of us listen to the Beatles, as you know (the previous Beatles albums and solo-Beatles albums thread showing). And we've discussed Beatles 4-run albums in the posts above.
Personally I can't stand Jan & Dean. I like Eric Carmen in the Raspberries, as I've posted plenty about. I've enjoyed the Lovin Spoonful and have a few albums, but don't think of them as anything special. Never cared much about the Turtles or Paul Revere one way or the other.
I like some softer music, some (but a decreasing amount over time) heavier music...really I think of my taste as shooting for the best of every genre more than all of any genre. ("the best" being subjective, obviously) I'd rather listen to good music that sounds nothing like the Beach Boys than third-rate bands that superficially resemble the Beach Boys in some stylistic way.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Apr 25, 2024 11:43:14 GMT
I've probably said this before, but the responses these kinds of threads get are not what I would expect on a Beach Boys board. What would I expect Beach Boys fans to be listening to? Well, not Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Black Sabbath, Scorpions, Judas Priest, Van Halen, AC/DC. Am I the only one hear who favors softer sounds? I kind of assumed Beach Boys fans would be listening to Jan and Dean, the Beatles, the Turtles, the Lovin' Spoonful, Paul Revere and the Raiders, Eric Carmen, C'mon, lonelysummer, read the General Music Discussion section of the board! We have separate threads for Bob Dylan, The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Hard Rock/Heavy Metal, Van Halen, Tom Petty, The Doors, Pink Floyd, Queen, The Who, King Crimson, and Sparks for chrissakes. We're a full-service board. We have something for everyone. Have you heard the news, there's good rockin' tonight!
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Post by Kapitan on Apr 25, 2024 12:01:02 GMT
I've probably said this before, but the responses these kinds of threads get are not what I would expect on a Beach Boys board. What would I expect Beach Boys fans to be listening to? Well, not Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Black Sabbath, Scorpions, Judas Priest, Van Halen, AC/DC. Am I the only one hear who favors softer sounds? I kind of assumed Beach Boys fans would be listening to Jan and Dean, the Beatles, the Turtles, the Lovin' Spoonful, Paul Revere and the Raiders, Eric Carmen, C'mon, lonelysummer, read the General Music Discussion section of the board! We have separate threads for Bob Dylan, The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Hard Rock/Heavy Metal, Van Halen, Tom Petty, The Doors, Pink Floyd, Queen, The Who, King Crimson, and Sparks for chrissakes. We're a full-service board. We have something for everyone. Have you heard the news, there's good rockin' tonight! Not to mention threads dedicated to at least two of the bands named as those one might expect us to listen to: the Turtles and Jan & Dean both have their own threads. As well as a Jimmy Buffet thread, a Simon & Garfunkel thread, a Bruce Springsteen thread, a Steely Dan thread, an Elvis thread, a CSN&Y thread, a classical thread, jazz threads, a few threads dedicated to particular instruments (bass, drums, guitar) ... even an N Sync thread. I don't think it's that we don't like and listen to "softer sounds," it's that many of us listen to a very broad range of music.
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Post by carllove on Apr 25, 2024 13:28:18 GMT
I've probably said this before, but the responses these kinds of threads get are not what I would expect on a Beach Boys board. What would I expect Beach Boys fans to be listening to? Well, not Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Black Sabbath, Scorpions, Judas Priest, Van Halen, AC/DC. Am I the only one hear who favors softer sounds? I kind of assumed Beach Boys fans would be listening to Jan and Dean, the Beatles, the Turtles, the Lovin' Spoonful, Paul Revere and the Raiders, Eric Carmen, I think most of us here appreciate all good music. Everything from Classical, Heavy Metal, Jazz, Prog Rock and yes, even “Easy Listening”. I do love me some Bread and my astute daughter bought me some Carole King vinyl for Mother’s Day last year. I had albums from The Raspberries and Hollies in my teenage years, but I also had all of the Led Zeppelin and King Crimson albums. I even had a grunge phase. I think Kanye West’s Graduation and My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy are brilliant albums. I do believe most of us have a distain for Cardi B and Megan The Stallion, thank goodness. I don’t see a lot of Country mentioned here, but I have seen Kenny Chesney and Garth Brooks live and they both put on a great show and have some great music. I think everyone here loves the Beatles. My songbooks are so worn out the pages have fallen out of the bindings. I saw Dean Torrence perform with Mike back in the 80’s and think Jan and Dean are all right - just don’t really get the urge to listen to them on the regular. The Lovin’ Spoonful were a great band, and John Sebastian is a talent on his own, but I don’t really listen to them anymore. Eric Carmen’s passing did really throw me, because I really felt like part of my teenage years were lost there. Still - I listen to The Raspberries more than his solo music - but he had an amazing voice and was a talented musician. I love that we are as a group, very well-rounded in our music appreciation. The Beach Boys themselves, evolved in the type of music they produced. I always find it laughable when someone says that all of their music sounds the same. I was actually one of those folks, until I discovered Pet Sounds, and started my exploration of their music from 1966 and beyond. So - Rock On - Fellow board members. Now who prefers Bon Scott to Brian Johnson?
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Post by kds on Apr 25, 2024 13:30:02 GMT
I've probably said this before, but the responses these kinds of threads get are not what I would expect on a Beach Boys board. What would I expect Beach Boys fans to be listening to? Well, not Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Black Sabbath, Scorpions, Judas Priest, Van Halen, AC/DC. Am I the only one hear who favors softer sounds? I kind of assumed Beach Boys fans would be listening to Jan and Dean, the Beatles, the Turtles, the Lovin' Spoonful, Paul Revere and the Raiders, Eric Carmen, Why can't Beach Boys fans rock out? I like softer sounds too. For the most part, Pink Floyd are a very mellow band. I also really enjoy The Moody Blues (RIP Mike Pinder), The Tremeloes, and of course with warmer weather coming, Jimmy Buffett. And, we've had quite a lot of discussion about The Beatles.
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Post by kds on Apr 25, 2024 13:36:26 GMT
I've probably said this before, but the responses these kinds of threads get are not what I would expect on a Beach Boys board. What would I expect Beach Boys fans to be listening to? Well, not Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Black Sabbath, Scorpions, Judas Priest, Van Halen, AC/DC. Am I the only one hear who favors softer sounds? I kind of assumed Beach Boys fans would be listening to Jan and Dean, the Beatles, the Turtles, the Lovin' Spoonful, Paul Revere and the Raiders, Eric Carmen, By the way, you're questioning our picks for bands with great four album runs. Where's your list(s)?
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