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Post by Kapitan on May 3, 2022 13:19:32 GMT
I like radio because I love hearing David Marks play that classic rhythm part. And I love hearing Bruce and Al and Mike and Brian sing Which part(s) do you think you hear David playing? I ask because there are four electric guitarists (and one acoustic guitarist) credited on the track. I don't think there's anything definitive being played that would let a person recognize one over the others (i.e., there's no Eddie Van Halen "Beat It" situation going on where it's immediately identifiable). Respectfully, I suspect it's your heart that hears David's playing more than your ears.
Also I was thinking how right Sheriff John Stone was in his point above that this song really didn't come across very well in a live setting. It was always shaky, especially vocally, every time I heard it (both on YouTube videos and live when I saw Brian play it with Al and David in 2013 or so).
To me, this one is a pretty cool arrangement of a pretty pedestrian song. For it to be the title track and lead single is a bit surprising other than for the sentiment of it.
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Post by kds on May 3, 2022 13:29:58 GMT
I've mentioned it before in other TWGMTR threads, but that misplaced power chord after the second chorus always sounded odd to me.
Not to mention that the stray chord is followed by the lyric "Let's make this night a celebration, bringing the love and sunshine to a whole new generation." Without that middle section, or a better middle section, I might actually be tempted to round up to an eight. To be fair, the in the round "That's why God made...." vocals immediately following that awkward section are really good IMO.
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Post by Kapitan on May 3, 2022 13:35:51 GMT
I've mentioned it before in other TWGMTR threads, but that misplaced power chord after the second chorus always sounded odd to me. Not to mention that the stray chord is followed by the lyric "Let's make this night a celebration, bringing the love and sunshine to a whole new generation." Without that middle section, or a better middle section, I might actually be tempted to round up to an eight. To be fair, the in the round "That's why God made...." vocals immediately following that awkward section are really good IMO. Yes, yes, a thousand times yes. On all counts.
The power chord sounds silly, and that middle eight is just not a good fit. The song is--as lonelysummer pointed out earlier so that it really struck me--a kind of triplet based (a la "Keep An Eye On Summer") nostalgia stroll ... and then WHAMMO, power chord and totally different feeling, almost aggressive. It's just not a good fit. I guess that's what you get when the primary writer is seemingly the man behind "Eye Of The Tiger."
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Post by kds on May 3, 2022 14:16:16 GMT
I've mentioned it before in other TWGMTR threads, but that misplaced power chord after the second chorus always sounded odd to me. Not to mention that the stray chord is followed by the lyric "Let's make this night a celebration, bringing the love and sunshine to a whole new generation." Without that middle section, or a better middle section, I might actually be tempted to round up to an eight. To be fair, the in the round "That's why God made...." vocals immediately following that awkward section are really good IMO. Yes, yes, a thousand times yes. On all counts.
The power chord sounds silly, and that middle eight is just not a good fit. The song is--as lonelysummer pointed out earlier so that it really struck me--a kind of triplet based (a la "Keep An Eye On Summer") nostalgia stroll ... and then WHAMMO, power chord and totally different feeling, almost aggressive. It's just not a good fit. I guess that's what you get when the primary writer is seemingly the man behind "Eye Of The Tiger." And the nostalgia in the verses feel a bit more universal than on the middle section, where it feels somewhat forced to me. And, it's completely unnecessary since Isn't It Time and Spring Vacation are the "we're back together again" songs.
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Post by Kapitan on May 3, 2022 14:58:58 GMT
I just relistened to the instrumental version of this, as I was thinking about the previous comments regarding the guitar parts. And I do want to say that this track is really cool. (And so is the vocal arrangement, which I've already said.)
There are three electric guitarists, but there are two parts that are relatively prominent throughout the song.
If we consider the song to be in 12/8 and were counting it ONE-and-a TWO-and-a THREE-and-a FOUR-and-a, one prominent part is in a higher register, relatively staccato part that focuses on the "triplets" in two and four, especially the first two beats of each. (So TWO-and-a and FOUR-and-a.)
The other strums a chord on beat one, mostly panned hard left but either another guitar, or this same one just repositioned in the mix, also occasionally is hard right. As we go on, this one also has a few little subtle licks, sometimes in octaves. This is all lower register than the previously mentioned one.
So I'd think one (or both?) of these is David. But it's impossible to know for sure without more info.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2022 15:29:07 GMT
Well I just always assumed out the prominent rhythm guitar part that sounds a lot like the parts he played on the old songs was him but I don't have any evidence. All I know is that Dave said it was his favorite song on the album and John said he enjoyed playing on it so I'm thinking of him playing the rhythm part that sounds a lot like is acoustic part in your summer dream. But if someone knows better than me it's okay. And of course I'm always rooting for Dave and so happy to listen with my heart but happy to be corrected if I'm imprecise. What year is I loved Dave's Solo in the new do it again video until it turns out that he was added to the video film but the guitar solo was still by Scott. So who knows and there's plenty of instances of Dave playing that part live. However I do agree that every live performance is totally murked up by the incoherence of the vocal harmonies. And Jeff just doesn't sound good live sorry. quote author=" Kapitan" source="/post/33598/thread" timestamp="1651583972"] I like radio because I love hearing David Marks play that classic rhythm part. And I love hearing Bruce and Al and Mike and Brian sing Which part(s) do you think you hear David playing? I ask because there are four electric guitarists (and one acoustic guitarist) credited on the track. I don't think there's anything definitive being played that would let a person recognize one over the others (i.e., there's no Eddie Van Halen "Beat It" situation going on where it's immediately identifiable). Respectfully, I suspect it's your heart that hears David's playing more than your ears.
Also I was thinking how right Sheriff John Stone was in his point above that this song really didn't come across very well in a live setting. It was always shaky, especially vocally, every time I heard it (both on YouTube videos and live when I saw Brian play it with Al and David in 2013 or so).
To me, this one is a pretty cool arrangement of a pretty pedestrian song. For it to be the title track and lead single is a bit surprising other than for the sentiment of it.
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Post by jk on May 3, 2022 17:07:03 GMT
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Post by lonelysummer on May 3, 2022 18:30:23 GMT
I had my first experience working with someone who uses Auto-Tune recently. It was a project at work, and I know he used it on some voices, but not all (there were about a dozen of us singing). I hope he didn't think my voice needed it.
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Post by Kapitan on May 4, 2022 19:18:24 GMT
One minor thing about this song that has stuck in my craw from Day One is how the opening two lines each end.
Tuning in the latest staaahhhhhh From the dashboard of my caaahhhhh
Now, to be fair, ending on an "R" when singing is not a great sound. It can sound exaggerated and silly, like a Minnesota/Wisconsin/Sarah Palin imitation. But I think it's also the cavernous reverb's decay of the probably quadruple-tracked Brian (or Brian and Jeff).
So if I understand it, why am I mentioning it? I dunno, it's the SotW. I'm discussing.
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Post by kds on May 4, 2022 19:32:49 GMT
It's paradise when I Lift up my antenna
Almost ten years later (since I first heard it), I can't decide if this is clever or stupid.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on May 4, 2022 20:31:44 GMT
kds, since we're on this song/time frame, in regard to your avatar...does the album still have a soft spot with you that you'll be continuing with the avatar for awhile? Just thought I'd ask...
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Post by kds on May 5, 2022 12:32:13 GMT
kds, since we're on this song/time frame, in regard to your avatar...does the album still have a soft spot with you that you'll be continuing with the avatar for awhile? Just thought I'd ask...
It does. It's still an album I revisit fairly often. Back in 2013 and 2014, I thought that it might just be a bit of nostalgia for the calendar year of 2012, which was a very special year in my life for several reasons. But, nearly a decade later, I still really like the album, and have even some around on come of the songs that I really didn't care much for at the time (Spring Vacation, Bill & Sue).
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Post by Kapitan on May 8, 2022 11:54:02 GMT
Today is the final day to vote on "That's Why God Made the Radio." Please cast your ballots if you intend to, and chime in a comment.
Just like several others, I'm going with a 7. I think it's a mediocre song, but I really do like the track (which you can hear as the B-side), and it did bring the Beach Boys back in a real vocal showcase (however many of those vocals were Jeff) to kick off the reunion. It's far better than the last time Joe Thomas produced the group, to say nothing of being far better than the Melcher-led work of their previous several albums.
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Post by lonelysummer on May 8, 2022 19:54:28 GMT
Even though it's only an average song or single, I'm thankful we've got it. And it's better than most of the stuff that was on the radio in 2012.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2022 5:32:51 GMT
Oh I wish there was a way to hear those songs without different tracks having been sung by Jeff. Again personal affection and admiration for him but just with the five Beach Boys singing it would have been fine. I think Dave maybe sings on radio itself according to his report but damned if I could detect his voice anywhere. And in reference to some earlier discussion we have had here, I would like to get a proper accounting of which parts Dave plays on which songs on radio. He's not credited on strange world but gave an interview where he talked about playing on the song so I don't think the record is very clear. Today is the final day to vote on "That's Why God Made the Radio." Please cast your ballots if you intend to, and chime in a comment.
Just like several others, I'm going with a 7. I think it's a mediocre song, but I really do like the track (which you can hear as the B-side), and it did bring the Beach Boys back in a real vocal showcase (however many of those vocals were Jeff) to kick off the reunion. It's far better than the last time Joe Thomas produced the group, to say nothing of being far better than the Melcher-led work of their previous several albums.
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