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Post by kds on Nov 18, 2021 14:47:04 GMT
I'm not a huge fan of Unmasked, but I think it's a decent album.
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Post by Kapitan on Nov 18, 2021 14:52:16 GMT
I certainly would never argue it's some kind of classic. But like I said, I've always had a soft spot for it. I also wonder if it wouldn't be better regarded if it were from some other band, not the cartoonish characters of that one.
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Post by kds on Nov 18, 2021 15:15:00 GMT
I certainly would never argue it's some kind of classic. But like I said, I've always had a soft spot for it. I also wonder if it wouldn't be better regarded if it were from some other band, not the cartoonish characters of that one. That's possible, but I also think that it's coming off the albums they put out in the 70s which set the bar pretty high.
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Post by sockit on Nov 19, 2021 0:14:00 GMT
1980 was the year I first heard of the J. Geils Band with their hit "Love Stinks". In fact that was the first music video I ever saw, as MTV was still about a year away from firing up. The video was featured on some local music variety/news TV show or something like that, and my reaction was How weird! Catchy song though...
J. Geils Band's follow up "Come Back" was pretty good too. Here's the video to "Love Stinks", which changed my 15 year old world in some way. (I just didn't realize it yet):
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Nov 19, 2021 1:55:30 GMT
In 1980, X released their debut album, Los Angeles. Ordinarily, I wouldn't have been interested in the band, but when I read that Ray Manzarek was producing the album and performing on the album...I bought it. And, I liked it. It was hard rock, punk rock, played very fast. They covered "Soul Kitchen" by The Doors, but I think my favorite track was "Nausea" featuring Ray on his familiar organ. Here's both:
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Post by kds on Nov 22, 2021 20:49:57 GMT
Loverboy released their self titled debut album in 1980. They were a really solid rock band at the time.
Along the same lines, Billy Squier released his solo debut - The Tale of the Tape. The album featured the song The Big Beat, which has gone on to be one of the most sampled songs of all time.
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Post by jk on Nov 22, 2021 21:02:27 GMT
Loverboy released their self titled debut album in 1980. They were a really solid rock band at the time. Along the same lines, Billy Squier released his solo debut - The Tale of the Tape. The album featured the song The Big Beat, which has gone on to be one of the most sampled songs of all time. I can imagine those opening bars having been sampled!! Great track: Me, I'm in the throes of revisiting Daryl Hall's Sacred Songs from that year. "Babs And Babs" (the title is so cool in itself) is utterly gorgeous: a riff that eats its way into the brain, the wash of Frippertronics halfway in... On the album itself, it merges imperceptibly into the all-Fripp "Urban Landscape" (which in turn segues into "NYCNY"). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_Songs
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Post by sockit on Nov 25, 2021 17:11:11 GMT
Seeing that we're still on 1980, I nearly forgot about my favorite Nazareth song, "Holiday". This is one that I still jam on with my neighbors from time to time.
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Post by jk on Nov 26, 2021 12:57:49 GMT
Seeing that we're still on 1980, I nearly forgot about my favorite Nazareth song, "Holiday". This is one that I still jam on with my neighbors from time to time. One of the songs I played with my guitarist brother (and guitarist son-in-law, but not on this one) at my son's wedding reception more than a decade ago was "Third World Man" from Steely Dan's 1980 album Gaucho. This is the musical shorthand I used at the time and in fact always use online. It went very well, in case you're wondering. Riff x 4 Verse I: G | Bm7 | Cma7 | Em | Am7 | Bm7 | Riff x 1 || Verse II: G | Bm7 | Cma7 | Em | Am7 | Bm7 | Riff x 2 || Chorus: G/c | Fis-10 | Bm7 | Cism7 Fis-9 | Dma7 (b) | Cma7 (a) | Am Em | Fis-9 B7 || Riff x 1 Verse III: G | Bm7 | Cma7 | Em | Am7 | Bm7 | Riff x 2 || Bridge: xx Bm/g |^C/e - C/e - |^D/e ^D/e x x x |^Bm - ^Am ^D11 | ^Bm/g x Bm/g |^C/e - C/e |^D/e ^D/e x x x | ^E11 ^D11 || Solo = Verse; Riff x 1; Verse; Riff x 2 Chorus; Riff x 2; Bridge---attacca! Coda: Riff Em | Riff B | Am D | Gma9 Cma7 | repeat! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaucho_(album)
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Post by Kapitan on Nov 26, 2021 13:09:18 GMT
I've never come across "is" in chord charts. What is Fis-9? (Sorry for the topical detour.) Normally I'd assume it's a kind of F minor 9, but you aren't using - for minor, it seems. So if it's built on a major, how does it differ from an F(add9) or F9 (e.g. dominant)? Sorry if it's a dumb question, but I just don't recall ever seeing it.
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Post by jk on Nov 26, 2021 16:45:23 GMT
I've never come across "is" in chord charts. What is Fis-9? (Sorry for the topical detour.) Normally I'd assume it's a kind of F minor 9, but you aren't using - for minor, it seems. So if it's built on a major, how does it differ from an F(add9) or F9 (e.g. dominant)? Sorry if it's a dumb question, but I just don't recall ever seeing it. Ah -- Fis is Dutch for F sharp, the way Bes is Dutch for B flat. I used to use this notational system for "my" (Dutch) band, so I probably stuck to it here out of habit.
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Post by sockit on Nov 26, 2021 17:05:46 GMT
I've never come across "is" in chord charts. What is Fis-9? (Sorry for the topical detour.) Normally I'd assume it's a kind of F minor 9, but you aren't using - for minor, it seems. So if it's built on a major, how does it differ from an F(add9) or F9 (e.g. dominant)? Sorry if it's a dumb question, but I just don't recall ever seeing it. Ah -- Fis is Dutch for F sharp, the way Bes is Dutch for B flat. I used to use this notational system for "my" (Dutch) band, so I probably stuck to it here out of habit. Ah, I'm glad you answered that quickly! I was getting ready to phone my music theory guitarist friend over in the Valley!
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Post by Kapitan on Nov 26, 2021 17:09:35 GMT
I've never come across "is" in chord charts. What is Fis-9? (Sorry for the topical detour.) Normally I'd assume it's a kind of F minor 9, but you aren't using - for minor, it seems. So if it's built on a major, how does it differ from an F(add9) or F9 (e.g. dominant)? Sorry if it's a dumb question, but I just don't recall ever seeing it. Ah -- Fis is Dutch for F sharp, the way Bes is Dutch for B flat. I used to use this notational system for "my" (Dutch) band, so I probably stuck to it here out of habit. Ah, well that's a pretty clear and obvious answer. Best of all from my perspective, I can't reasonably have been expected to know that, so I feel vindicated!
I was racking my brain thinking through various things--major, minor, dominant, half-diminished, diminished, suspensions, etc.--trying to ensure I wasn't overlooking anything that I should know!
By the way, I always found musical life a little odd, in that I learned various popular "lead sheet" type chord terminology and symbols mostly from a rock background in guitar lessons; then some alternatives in jazz guitar; and then lastly really learned theory formally. So I'm always a little uncertain anyway, just based on the conversation partner, and thinking I might be forgetting some obvious thing.
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Post by jk on Nov 27, 2021 10:49:53 GMT
Ah -- Fis is Dutch for F sharp, the way Bes is Dutch for B flat. I used to use this notational system for "my" (Dutch) band, so I probably stuck to it here out of habit. Ah, well that's a pretty clear and obvious answer. Best of all from my perspective, I can't reasonably have been expected to know that, so I feel vindicated!
I was racking my brain thinking through various things--major, minor, dominant, half-diminished, diminished, suspensions, etc.--trying to ensure I wasn't overlooking anything that I should know!
By the way, I always found musical life a little odd, in that I learned various popular "lead sheet" type chord terminology and symbols mostly from a rock background in guitar lessons; then some alternatives in jazz guitar; and then lastly really learned theory formally. So I'm always a little uncertain anyway, just based on the conversation partner, and thinking I might be forgetting some obvious thing. No, you're definitely in the right here, Cap'n. I never really learnt music theory, as you can see! I know a few things and I generally get across what I want to say but I tend to tread my own path in these matters. While I'm feeling eloquent... When I was in my teens, two venerated members of the UK modern "classical" fraternity saw some of my compositions (all worthless, looking back, and since destroyed) and decided I should apply to the Royal College of Music in London! Needless to say, I wasn't accepted. I sealed my fated when I told my interviewer -- no less than the composer Herbert Howells, whose music I've since come to love -- that I didn't care for Bach, Mozart and Beethoven! It was all downhill after that. And I'd abandoned sharps in my written compositions and wrote the requisite bars of the string quartet we were all set using just flats! Oh, the foolish things we do when we're young (well, some of us)...
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Post by Kapitan on Nov 27, 2021 12:29:39 GMT
That reminds me, I told both my jazz guitar instructor and the head of the jazz department my freshman year of college that I didn't like jazz guitarists, and really only looked to some other musicians (e.g. Miles, Monk) for guidance. In my head, this was some brilliant strategy to make me a unique guitarist. They both half-humored me, but also both said (more or less): "if you want to learn guitar, go study some guitarists [you idiot]."
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