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Post by B.E. on Aug 21, 2021 15:20:42 GMT
lonelysummer, how's your McCartney/Wings vinyl collection? Do you have all the LPs and 45s?
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Post by lonelysummer on Aug 22, 2021 4:07:38 GMT
lonelysummer , how's your McCartney/Wings vinyl collection? Do you have all the LPs and 45s? I have all the original albums, and most of the singles. They're not hard to find. Also have a few related records - Henry McCullough's Mind Your Own Business on Dark Horse Records; a Jimmy McCulloch single with his band White Line, Call My Name/Too Many Miles. A Joe English album of CCM, Lights in the World. A bunch of Denny Laine albums, and a couple singles (including his version of Man of Constant Sorrow with Ginger Baker's Air Force); Linda's one-off single Seaside Woman (as Suzy and the Red Stripes); and of course a bunch of Paul's solo records. I have a bootleg album of their final concert - Cold Turkey For Kampuchea. Sure would be nice to see that get a legit release.
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Post by B.E. on Aug 22, 2021 14:30:51 GMT
lonelysummer , how's your McCartney/Wings vinyl collection? Do you have all the LPs and 45s? I have all the original albums, and most of the singles. They're not hard to find. Also have a few related records - Henry McCullough's Mind Your Own Business on Dark Horse Records; a Jimmy McCulloch single with his band White Line, Call My Name/Too Many Miles. A Joe English album of CCM, Lights in the World. A bunch of Denny Laine albums, and a couple singles (including his version of Man of Constant Sorrow with Ginger Baker's Air Force); Linda's one-off single Seaside Woman (as Suzy and the Red Stripes); and of course a bunch of Paul's solo records. I have a bootleg album of their final concert - Cold Turkey For Kampuchea. Sure would be nice to see that get a legit release. Nice. Henry McCullough's album was on Dark Horse Records? That's cool. As for me, I've got all the albums except Wild Life. I've only got a few 45s, though: "Give Ireland Back to the Irish", "Listen To What The Man Said", "Goodnight Tonight", and Paul's "Wonderful Christmastime". Edit: Oh, and if we venture into the '80s: Tug of War, Pipes of Peace, Give My Regards To Broad Street, and "No More Lonely Nights" 12''. It's CD from there on out.
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Post by Kapitan on Aug 22, 2021 14:33:14 GMT
OK, here are some notes I jotted down during my most recent listen. I'm not ready to commit to a rating quite yet, but considering I went with a (low) 8 for Venus and Mars and consider this noticeably--but not ridiculously--worse, I think it's safe to say I'll end at either a (high) 6 or a 7. I'm just not sure quite which. There is not much bad, a lot of pretty good, and a few REALLY cool moments.
I ended up going with a 7. It's a low 7, and honestly it's probably like a 6.7, 6.8, that sort of thing. So it rounds up.
This album is better than I'd have guessed it would be if you'd asked me before this ratings series began. (I had never heard it, and most Wings I had heard didn't do a lot for me.)
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Post by lonelysummer on Aug 23, 2021 4:41:15 GMT
I have all the original albums, and most of the singles. They're not hard to find. Also have a few related records - Henry McCullough's Mind Your Own Business on Dark Horse Records; a Jimmy McCulloch single with his band White Line, Call My Name/Too Many Miles. A Joe English album of CCM, Lights in the World. A bunch of Denny Laine albums, and a couple singles (including his version of Man of Constant Sorrow with Ginger Baker's Air Force); Linda's one-off single Seaside Woman (as Suzy and the Red Stripes); and of course a bunch of Paul's solo records. I have a bootleg album of their final concert - Cold Turkey For Kampuchea. Sure would be nice to see that get a legit release. Nice. Henry McCullough's album was on Dark Horse Records? That's cool. As for me, I've got all the albums except Wild Life. I've only got a few 45s, though: "Give Ireland Back to the Irish", "Listen To What The Man Said", "Goodnight Tonight", and Paul's "Wonderful Christmastime". Edit: Oh, and if we venture into the '80s: Tug of War, Pipes of Peace, Give My Regards To Broad Street, and "No More Lonely Nights" 12''. It's CD from there on out. Trying to get CD's of Denny's albums has been very challenging. There are dozens of cd's of his music, but mostly they are collections of songs he record for small labels in the 80's, or repackagings of his Japanese Tears album from 1984. I have yet to come across a legit cd of his Electric String Band recordings from the 60's. The Moody Blues recordings from the Laine era have been repackaged countless times, too. I've got a few of those McCartney 12 inch singles from the 80's - Ebony and Ivory, Take it Away, Say Say Say, No More Lonely Nights, Spies Like Us. Wings' Goodnight Tonight was also released as a 12 inch - that's a good one to have, especially for the excellent b-side, Daytime Nighttime Suffering.
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Post by Kapitan on Aug 24, 2021 13:26:28 GMT
Today is the final day to vote on Wings' At the Speed of Sound. Or is it as B.E. said, Wings' Wings at the Speed of Sound? Whatever it is, today's the last day to vote on it.
Great time to chime in any last thoughts and of course to cast your ballot, if you haven't.
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Post by Kapitan on Aug 24, 2021 13:32:06 GMT
Procedural Question: I can't find the original discussion--might've been in the shoutbox?--but I recall we were planning to stick with one week per album up through somewhere in the early '80s. Double Fantasy? Tug of War? I don't remember where we placed the dividing line.
But my question is, does a week per album still seem appropriate? On one hand, the discussion is definitely heaviest in the first few days. On the other, I don't want to push ahead and have anyone who uses (for example) weekends to catch up, only to end up missing the chance.
Thoughts?
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Post by jk on Aug 24, 2021 14:08:59 GMT
Procedural Question: I can't find the original discussion--might've been in the shoutbox?--but I recall we were planning to stick with one week per album up through somewhere in the early '80s. Double Fantasy? Tug of War? I don't remember where we placed the dividing line.
But my question is, does a week per album still seem appropriate? On one hand, the discussion is definitely heaviest in the first few days. On the other, I don't want to push ahead and have anyone who uses (for example) weekends to catch up, only to end up missing the chance.
Thoughts?
A week's fine with me. It gives everyone the chance to chime in a second or a third time. Not just that, any other division might be confusing. With a week you know exactly where you stand. That said, the last warning is most welcome. Oh, and thanks for doing this, Cap'n. It must be quite time-consuming but your love of music always shines through.
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Post by kds on Aug 24, 2021 19:28:06 GMT
I'm fine with devoting full weeks, with the exception of the Ringo releases as we discussed.
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Post by lonelysummer on Aug 24, 2021 19:38:03 GMT
I'm fine with devoting full weeks, with the exception of the Ringo releases as we discussed. After Ringo's Rotogravure, it's pretty slim pickings. I've never listened to Ringo the 4th; heard Bad Boy decades ago. Used to have a cassette of Stop and Smell the Roses, then the oxide wore off, rendering it unplayable. I've never missed it.
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Post by kds on Aug 24, 2021 19:41:08 GMT
I'm fine with devoting full weeks, with the exception of the Ringo releases as we discussed. After Ringo's Rotogravure, it's pretty slim pickings. I've never listened to Ringo the 4th; heard Bad Boy decades ago. Used to have a cassette of Stop and Smell the Roses, then the oxide wore off, rendering it unplayable. I've never missed it. Other than a greatest hits album, and a handful of Ringo's releases from the late 1990s / early 00s, I'm pretty clueless about Ringo's catalog.
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Post by Kapitan on Aug 24, 2021 19:44:52 GMT
I'm going to be learning A LOT as we proceed, because before today, I had heard precisely one of Ringo's remaining albums; two of George's; one of John's; and most but not all of Paul's. If nothing else, this project is educating me.
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Post by kds on Aug 24, 2021 19:47:45 GMT
I've heard the remaining albums from George and John. I know there are a couple Paul albums from the 80s I never heard in full, but I've bought, or at least listened to, everything from Off the Ground onward (not sure how much I'm looking forward to hearing some of those again).
Ringo will be a completely new thing, other than Vertical Man, Ringo Rama, and his Christmas album.
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Post by B.E. on Aug 25, 2021 0:35:37 GMT
Just four voters weighed in on Ringo Starr's Goodnight Vienna, rating it a 6.0. Our next album will launch shortly. As we're about to switch our focus to Ringo's next album, I figured this was a good time to finally chime in and rate Goodnight Vienna real quick. This is an album that I've always had a good feeling about. I think it's a good album, a cool album, but I've always kind of agreed with the consensus that it's runner-up to Ringo (and clearly so). I had Ringo at a low '8' and, previously, Goodnight Vienna at a high '7'. This time around, I was pleasantly surprised, and so I think I gotta elevate GV to '8' status. These two albums represent the highpoint of his solo career, and I do hear them as companion albums. I'll still give the nod to the highs of Ringo, but I think GV has better flow, and I might prefer the "lesser" songs of GV to the Ringo counterparts. One song that I had completely overlooked until now is "All By Myself". I checked - it's not included on any of his compilations. Reappraising that one, alone, accounts for my bumping up the rating of the album. Then there are songs like "Call Me", with a much more interesting (and fun) arrangement and backing vocals than I had remembered. That was a common theme for me: the strong production and, especially, backing vocals that I had previously overlooked. (I haven't listened to the album as much as you might think.) Other songs that I was more familiar with like "Easier For Me", which I think is a standout solo track for Ringo, had an even better vocal performance than I remembered. It's really good, quite fantastic, actually. ("Husbands and Wives" meanwhile is a little shaky and a lowlight.) Another song that I was familiar with but finding myself enjoying more this time around was "Snookeroo". Anyway, I'm not really hearing a significant drop-off in the quality of the songs, overall. And I think I kinda like that this one isn't dependent on the contributions of (all) the former Beatles. Not as rule, or something, but in this case I just don't think it needed it. I'm enjoying this more as a Ringo record than a faux-Beatles reunion. I oughta listen to this more! 8 Edit: I'm still listening...it's hard to explain, but I think the album's got a really good vibe to it. Not saying it's better or that I prefer it to Ringo, but at this point there's very little distance between them (if any at all).
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Post by Kapitan on Aug 25, 2021 11:16:49 GMT
Six voters rated Wings At the Speed of Sound an average of 8.2.
We will proceed with our next album shortly.
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