Well, I was being a bit dramatic. I don't loathe it, at least not with every fibre of my being. I can listen to it. I can even sing along when the mood strikes. But I'm not a fan.
It just sounds too much like "Hungry Heart" it's unoriginal, it's just too nostalgic. The harmonies sound weird to me, Brian's falsetto is pinched, but, yeah it's my favorite part of the song; the drumming is mixed too high and kind of annoying sounding. I just don't like it. I don't like the way Mike sounds on this song. I just don't like it. It's catchy enough; like I said, I can listen to it.
Post by Sheriff John Stone on Mar 23, 2019 13:06:04 GMT
I would've liked to have seen what would've happened if they followed "Getcha Back" with "California Calling" as the next single. It's obvious that people NEVER get tired of that classic Beach Boys' sound, and while "California Calling" wasn't perfect, I think music fans would've taken to it more than "It's Gettin' Late"
I have a really hard time with "what-ifs" on this album. For me there was no better course that involves anything on the album, honestly. Yes, the "classic sound" of "Getcha Back" and "California Calling" might always have a place, but I really dislike both, and everything on the album more or less, because of the sound of it all. That attempt at contemporazation just fell flat, at least to my ears.
I disagree that "California Calling" would have been a big hit, but who knows. As a teen at that time I think that nobody was less cool than the Beach Boys.
I think, honestly, their time was past and going for the baby boomer adult contemporary market was their surest bet. "It's Gettin' Late" is a pretty good song, though that "bow-bow-bow" keyboard sound doesn't work for me and the production makes it all seem so stiff, even by eighties standards. "California Calling" is a bit more organic and enjoyable, though it's also far cheesier.
Ultimately that album is not really as terrible as people say; but it is bland. It has moments and nowhere do I barf...Getcha Back and the covers are my least favorite moments.
I do kind of think that Brian used the experience to pick up production chops that he ended up using on his solo stuff...so I see it as a step towards Brian Wilson 88...much like Today! was a step towards Pet Sounds...He was learning his way around computers, drum machines and synth-pop. Brian Wilson is not quiet the synth pop Pet Sounds, but you can hear how it could have ended up being a mix between Pet Sounds and Love you if there hadn't been so many producers and corporate meddlers and Landy...
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As a teen at that time I think that nobody was less cool than the Beach Boys.
That's where I was, too. I wasn't quite yet a teen when 85 came out, but I was getting close. And by the late 80s, at least, all I could think of with the Beach Boys was that damn Sunkist commercial and weird looking old guys. (Funny how relatively young you can be and still be seen as old by a tween-to-teen.)
Thanks to you all, I've put on this album. I'm not thrilled with any of you at the moment: I hold you responsible.
But of all things, I think maybe "She Believes in Love Again" gets my vote for best song on the album. I know it was discussed as being redone (or even was redone?) as part of the TWGMTR sessions. I'd have been curious to hear how that sounded without the 80s sounds here. And I feel similarly about "Where I Belong," I guess. Both of those songs are so of the times, you can imagine a younger and more telegenic band having some MTV success with them.
Post by Sheriff John Stone on Mar 24, 2019 13:13:48 GMT
On one hand, I appreciate The Beach Boys' effort to sound contemporary with the 1985 album. Ultimately, though, I think it failed and the project (especially bringing in Steve Levine to produce) is just another in a long line of career mistakes post-Pet Sounds. One subject which is rarely discussed is the band's failure to choose the right producer(s) after Brian stepped away. In addition to sub-par material, look at how that has affected their career.
lonelysummer: Shoot, i gave up on new music in the 90's.
Sept 18, 2021 2:18:38 GMT
Kapitan: Anyone want to kick off the next year's music to discuss? Pick anything except 1976, 1963, 1989, 2002, or 2010.
Sept 18, 2021 11:22:42 GMT
Kapitan: If not, I'll post a new one later today.
Sept 18, 2021 11:25:26 GMT
jk: Sounds good to me, Cap'n.
Sept 18, 2021 11:50:32 GMT
carllove: If you want to pick one today, I can do one Monday. Gotta start getting ready to power wash my deck this morning! Did get my thoughts in on 2010 this morning. Rough year!
Sept 18, 2021 13:04:24 GMT
carllove: Actually Kapitan, my husband is still sleeping, so I will choose a year this morning. It will be 1972.
Sept 18, 2021 13:14:07 GMT
B.E.: '63-72 - not just the best years for the Beach Boys but for popular music.
Sept 18, 2021 13:25:18 GMT
Kapitan: Great year for music!
Sept 18, 2021 14:34:33 GMT