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Post by The Cincinnati Kid on May 5, 2020 23:30:01 GMT
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Post by kds on May 6, 2020 12:20:10 GMT
Considering it's from the creators of The Office (US), and starring Steve Carell, I was a little underwhelmed by the trailer. But, I'll probably still check it out.
I'm guessing Brianistas have already decided to hate it.
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Post by bellbottoms on May 31, 2020 19:16:06 GMT
We binged Space Force this weekend, and I have to say, it was extremely enjoyable, I liked it a lot. Not perfect, but some genuinely funny LOL moments in every episode, great casting, and nice to see digs taken at all angles of the political spectrum, as well as some very heartwarming scenes to balance it all out. I saw a lot of reviews that said it was terrible, but those critics clearly have no sense of humour. I saw one review that said something to the effect of it being too lighthearted for such dark times. Oh FFS. Give me lighthearted in dark times, any time.
Of course, it was also awesome to see Kokomo featured in the first episode. That song seems to be making a comeback, with it's recent appearance in What We Do in the Shadows as well. Very pleasing.
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Post by kds on Jun 1, 2020 12:28:15 GMT
I honestly didn't realize Space Force premiered this weekend. I'll probably check it out.
In these crazy times, I think we could all use a trip to a place called Kokomo.
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Post by bellbottoms on Jun 1, 2020 13:34:36 GMT
With Kokomo’s sudden reappearance in comedy shows, I think there is a potential that it could be turned around from an “uncool” song used for humour, to bringing new appreciation for it. Honestly, it sounded SO GOOD in Space Force. It kind of sparkled. Hearing it in that context, it sounded fresh, aged beautifully, and I heard it without all the deep fan knowledge for what it is - just a really friggin' good song. It was a joy. I hope other people have that experience too.
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Post by kds on Jun 1, 2020 13:45:00 GMT
With Kokomo’s sudden reappearance in comedy shows, I think there is a potential that it could be turned around from an “uncool” song used for humour, to bringing new appreciation for it. Honestly, it sounded SO GOOD in Space Force. It kind of sparkled. Hearing it in that context, it sounded fresh, aged beautifully, and I heard it without all the deep fan knowledge for what it is - just a really friggin' good song. It was a joy. I hope other people have that experience too. That kind of thing happened to Toto's "Africa" in recent years, so you never know.
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Post by Kapitan on Jun 1, 2020 13:48:51 GMT
With Kokomo’s sudden reappearance in comedy shows, I think there is a potential that it could be turned around from an “uncool” song used for humour, to bringing new appreciation for it. Honestly, it sounded SO GOOD in Space Force. It kind of sparkled. Hearing it in that context, it sounded fresh, aged beautifully, and I heard it without all the deep fan knowledge for what it is - just a really friggin' good song. It was a joy. I hope other people have that experience too. That kind of thing happened to Toto's "Africa" in recent years, so you never know. It has frankly happened with the entirety of the '80s and later '70s. I you'd asked 20-year-old me whether disco, ABBA, and the synth pop of the likes of Phil Collins would become cool and cited as inspirational for even indie musicians, I'd have asked where you're getting your drugs. But by the '00s, that was the case. Could happen.
The main obstacle would be Mike Love's reputation, specifically.
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Post by kds on Jun 1, 2020 13:55:58 GMT
That kind of thing happened to Toto's "Africa" in recent years, so you never know. It has frankly happened with the entirety of the '80s and later '70s. I you'd asked 20-year-old me whether disco, ABBA, and the synth pop of the likes of Phil Collins would become cool and cited as inspirational for even indie musicians, I'd have asked where you're getting your drugs. But by the '00s, that was the case. Could happen.
The main obstacle would be Mike Love's reputation, specifically.
The Phil Collins example has been the most fascinating to me over the years. I doubt Mike Love himself could ever be "cool," but I could see the song Kokomo transcending that reputation. After all, there are probably a lot of people in their 20s, 30s, and maybe even 40s who are blissfully unaware of some of Mike's antics.
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Post by The Cincinnati Kid on Jun 1, 2020 14:24:10 GMT
It seems like 80s music is almost having a re-re-resurgence. It was in a lot of pop culture stuff until about 2-3 years ago and now it seems to be all over the place again, with new music having a very heavily influenced by the 80s. Kokomo is helped that it's not just an 80s song, but a late 80s song, so it's going to be relevant to more younger people.
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Post by Kapitan on Jun 1, 2020 14:40:05 GMT
It seems like 80s music is almost having a re-re-resurgence. It was in a lot of pop culture stuff until about 2-3 years ago and now it seems to be all over the place again, with new music having a very heavily influenced by the 80s. You know what is funny? (OK, at least to me.) And this is just me observing things as someone (in my opinion slightly, and in yours, presumably tremendously) older than you: I look at a recycling of 2-3 years and consider it wavelets in the same wave; whereas I can totally see how for you those seem like different reoccurrences.
I think as I get older, my perspective is from further and further up. In some ways it's great, because you can ideally identify those big-picture things; in others, it's awful, because you're not entirely in the moment/on the ground. Does that make sense? Or is this increasingly senile old man just babbling again? Somebody come and get grandpa, he needs a nap!
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Post by The Cincinnati Kid on Jun 1, 2020 15:30:45 GMT
It seems like 80s music is almost having a re-re-resurgence. It was in a lot of pop culture stuff until about 2-3 years ago and now it seems to be all over the place again, with new music having a very heavily influenced by the 80s. You know what is funny? (OK, at least to me.) And this is just me observing things as someone (in my opinion slightly, and in yours, presumably tremendously) older than you: I look at a recycling of 2-3 years and consider it wavelets in the same wave; whereas I can totally see how for you those seem like different reoccurrences.
I think as I get older, my perspective is from further and further up. In some ways it's great, because you can ideally identify those big-picture things; in others, it's awful, because you're not entirely in the moment/on the ground. Does that make sense? Or is this increasingly senile old man just babbling again? Somebody come and get grandpa, he needs a nap! I get what you're saying. Being out of college for a couple years now, I feel a slight disconnect coming on from current trends, popular phrases of the moment, etc. I still follow enough stuff and know enough younger people to get a feel for what's going on, though. It kinda felt like in my last year of college people were starting to feel nostalgic for the 90s, with 90s nights at bars, and just more music in general being played from that decade. I noticed it in commercials and tv shows too, but it's almost like marketing people decided people weren't quite ready for that lol. Speaking of starting to feel old, I was having a conversation with my friends about college bars. One of them said they weren't even that great and why did we go. I actually liked and still like a couple of the bars near the university, but I guess I have the same general sentiment that everyone feels a few years after college.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Jun 1, 2020 15:43:32 GMT
It seems like 80s music is almost having a re-re-resurgence. It was in a lot of pop culture stuff until about 2-3 years ago and now it seems to be all over the place again.... What also happened is that 80's music is now firmly entrenched on oldies' radio stations. Yep, when oldies FM radio stations first sprung up, it was mostly 60's music with some early 70's sprinkled in. As decades went by, all of the 70's music was included. Now, after even more time has passed, yes, the 80's are now considered oldies!
"Kokomo" is now heard on a lot of oldies' radio stations, and I would expect it to remain that way as the years go by. It has a few things going for it. First, it was a No. 1 song, and that virtually guarantees airplay. Second, it is The Beach Boys and people love The Beach Boys on the radio. And, how many casual music fans even realize that THIS PARTICULAR Beach Boys' song was from 1988, and not part of their hit-making years. Third, and not to sound contradictory to my previous point, but some people will always associate "Kokomo" with Cocktail - and that's a good thing. Cocktail = a fun movie, the partying 80's, good times...and Tom Cruise!
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Post by Kapitan on Jun 1, 2020 15:45:00 GMT
Welcome to old age, Cincinnati Kid!
Over the next decade, you'll have friends dropping out of the bar/club scene every year as they get tired of it, get into serious relationships, have kids, etc. It's really funny because at the beginning the dropouts seem lame ... and as the years go by, the ones left in it seem lame, kind of like...
(OK, actually not like that. But just a nice image for all occasions.)
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Post by The Cincinnati Kid on Jun 1, 2020 15:59:49 GMT
It seems like 80s music is almost having a re-re-resurgence. It was in a lot of pop culture stuff until about 2-3 years ago and now it seems to be all over the place again.... What also happened is that 80's music is now firmly entrenched on oldies' radio stations. Yep, when oldies FM radio stations first sprung up, it was mostly 60's music with some early 70's sprinkled in. As decades went by, all of the 70's music was included. Now, after even more time has passed, yes, the 80's are now considered oldies! "Kokomo" is now heard on a lot of oldies' radio stations, and I would expect it to remain that way as the years go by. It has a few things going for it. First, it was a No. 1 song, and that virtually guarantees airplay. Second, it is The Beach Boys and people love The Beach Boys on the radio. And, how many casual music fans even realize that THIS PARTICULAR Beach Boys' song was from 1988, and not part of their hit-making years. Third, and not to sound contradictory to my previous point, but some people will always associate "Kokomo" with Cocktail - and that's a good thing. Cocktail = a fun movie, the partying 80's, good times...and Tom Cruise! And in most cases they've dropped the oldies label in favor of greatest hits. Ours is even sprinkling in a few songs from the 90s now. I recall when I thought it was weird they were playing Prince songs. They first switched to greatest hits in 2007. Even the oldies station that opened up about 10 year ago to fill the void is now playing a lot of 70s music with a couple 80s songs from 1960s acts thrown in (like Kokomo). Speaking on that last bit, I've always wished there would be a station that maybe focuses on 60s-70s, but also plays newer stuff from those acts. It would be good exposure without going to overboard, but I guess there's only so much you can play in a day without turning off casual listeners.
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Post by kds on Jun 1, 2020 16:03:17 GMT
Oddly enough, at least in my neck of the woods, Kokomo is the only Beach Boys song you'll hear on FM radio when it's not Christmastime.
Baltimore hasn't had an "oldies" station in probably 15 years or more. And the classic rock stations in town have never really playing The Beach Boys. But, Kokomo pops up on our various variety type stations.
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