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Post by kds on Aug 14, 2019 0:08:17 GMT
I don't really dislike it. In fact, its grown on me. In fact, TWGMTR is one in a very short list of BB albums that doesn't contain one song I dislike.
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Post by Kapitan on Aug 14, 2019 14:25:19 GMT
It has grown on me, too. I still think it’s pretty bad in some ways, but it has its charms.
When I first saw the (presumably staged) “studio session” with Brian and Mike butchering it together, I honestly thought it must be a joke. And I still can’t disassociate the pre-chorus part that’s also in that terrible Peter Hollens collaboration.
I do like the “easy money” line and hope to god Brian wrote it.
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Post by kds on Aug 14, 2019 14:38:25 GMT
It has grown on me, too. I still think it’s pretty bad in some ways, but it has its charms. When I first saw the (presumably staged) “studio session” with Brian and Mike butchering it together, I honestly thought it must be a joke. And I still can’t disassociate the pre-chorus part that’s also in that terrible Peter Hollens collaboration. I do like the “easy money” line and hope to god Brian wrote it. The "easy money" line is pretty funny. I think what rubs me the wrong way is the distinct mid 2000s John Mayer vibe I get from the song, in particular the intro.
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Post by Kapitan on Aug 14, 2019 14:51:45 GMT
I know exactly what you mean about the vibe and agree completely. To me, that feel is a neutered man’s excitement. Totally lacking it’s edge.
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Post by kds on Aug 14, 2019 14:56:59 GMT
a neutered man’s excitement See Also: Train Another gripe about Spring Vacation. Why bring in Jeff Baxter when you have David Marks in the fold? In all honesty, that bothers me more than the overabundance of Foskett vocals in the mix. Given this is a mostly a Brian / Joe project, you know going in that there would be very few guitar moments for David Marks to shine, and they give one of those moments to Baxter.
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Post by B.E. on Aug 14, 2019 15:24:15 GMT
I know what you guys mean about the vibe of the track, but that really only bothers me during the intro. Specifically, the guitar part is the main culprit. Not my style! What I like most about the track is the chorus. Surprisingly, the "Good Vibrations" reference isn't a deal breaker. I think it's fair to say that I don't pay much attention to the lyrics on this one.
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Post by kds on Aug 14, 2019 15:29:44 GMT
I know what you guys mean about the vibe of the track, but that really only bothers me during the intro. Specifically, the guitar part is the main culprit. Not my style! What I like most about the track is the chorus. Surprisingly, the "Good Vibrations" reference isn't a deal breaker. I think it's fair to say that I don't pay much attention to the lyrics on this one. I don't think there was ever a chance in Hell that The Beach Boys were going to do a reunion album without lyrically namechecking some past songs.
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Post by B.E. on Aug 14, 2019 15:44:02 GMT
I know what you guys mean about the vibe of the track, but that really only bothers me during the intro. Specifically, the guitar part is the main culprit. Not my style! What I like most about the track is the chorus. Surprisingly, the "Good Vibrations" reference isn't a deal breaker. I think it's fair to say that I don't pay much attention to the lyrics on this one. I don't think there was ever a chance in Hell that The Beach Boys were going to do a reunion album without lyrically namechecking some past songs. Sure, but I don't have to like it. Fortunately, it doesn't ruin the chorus of "Spring Vacation" for me. Somehow, it kinda works.
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Post by kds on Aug 14, 2019 15:46:59 GMT
I don't think there was ever a chance in Hell that The Beach Boys were going to do a reunion album without lyrically namechecking some past songs. Sure, but I don't have to like it. Fortunately, it doesn't ruin the chorus of "Spring Vacation" for me. Somehow, it kinda works. That's never really bothered me to be honest. Especially when you're talking about a band that's essentially been a nostalgia act for about 80% of its existence. And in the context of Spring Vacation, it works better than it does on some other songs.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Aug 14, 2019 16:01:38 GMT
I like everything about "Spring Vacation"- especially the intro. Yes, radio was long gone in 2012 but that intro is made for radio. It has a sentimental feel about it which suits the message of the song. And speaking about the message of the song, I think Mike or whoever wrote the lyrics nailed it, better than any other reunion-type songs on the album. Mike's vocal is good and I like the way Brian comes in on the chorus. Call it formula or whatever, but that's what I wanted to hear from this 2012 version of The Beach Boys and "Spring Vacation" filled that want. Sure, it's not a great melody but it's a nice melody. Brian sounds "into it", doesn't he? Frankly, I had forgotten that Skunk Baxter played guitar on the track, but, yes, it would've been nice to involve David Marks. As I have mentioned ad nauseam over the years, I think "Spring Vacation" would've been a perfect lead off, reunion-type single in the spring of 2012, but at the same time I realize that it might've (probably would've?) tanked. I put "Spring Vacation" in that genre of classic, reflective, feel good, celebrating life, Beach Boys' songs along with "Do It Again", "It's OK", "Good Timin'", and "Getcha Back". It's not as good as those songs but it's not too far behind either. I enjoy listening to it.
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Post by B.E. on Aug 14, 2019 16:18:01 GMT
Especially when you're talking about a band that's essentially been a nostalgia act for about 80% of its existence. If any group wants to stick to the same theme(s) and style(s) that made them popular, then that's their prerogative. But, I think there's a difference between mining the same themes and actually namechecking your own (far more superior) songs. To me, it tends to come off as tacky/desperate/pathetic. That said, it doesn't always bother me. As is the case here.
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Post by kds on Aug 14, 2019 16:39:54 GMT
Especially when you're talking about a band that's essentially been a nostalgia act for about 80% of its existence. If any group wants to stick to the same theme(s) and style(s) that made them popular, then that's their prerogative. But, I think there's a difference between mining the same themes and actually namechecking your own (far more superior) songs. To me, it tends to come off as tacky/desperate/pathetic. That said, it doesn't always bother me. As is the case here. I've never really seen it as overly "tacky/desperate/pathetic," and The Beach Boys certainly aren't the only legacy act who does it (though I doubt any legacy act does it nearly as often as our Boys). I think that stuff used to bother me more when I first really got into the band, and probably one of the reasons I initially didn't care for SV.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Aug 14, 2019 23:39:51 GMT
Did you guys know that That's Why God Made The Radio came in a 3 CD Chronicle Edition? That's quite a comp! Does anybody have it? I wonder what the sound quality is like:
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Post by Kapitan on Aug 15, 2019 0:48:35 GMT
Ugh
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Post by kds on Aug 15, 2019 12:14:22 GMT
I put "Spring Vacation" in that genre of classic, reflective, feel good, celebrating life, Beach Boys' songs along with "Do It Again", "It's OK", "Good Timin'", and "Getcha Back". It's not as good as those songs but it's not too far behind either. I enjoy listening to it. That's actually how I feel about Beaches in Mind. Although I realize I'm in the minority.
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