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Post by kds on Jul 19, 2019 13:52:58 GMT
I'll reserve judgement for when I hear it, but the idea of a 2019 Macca doing a musical version of a classic that doesn't need a musical version doesn't sound great.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Aug 1, 2019 12:26:40 GMT
Short interview with Paul, and Beatles' solo albums ranked:
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Post by kds on Aug 1, 2019 12:31:41 GMT
Short interview with Paul, and Beatles' solo albums ranked:
I really wish Paul would find somebody to collaborate with for new material. At his age, I'm not expecting anything as good as his 70s albums, but I've found just about every release in the 21st Century to be interminably dull.
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Post by Kapitan on Aug 1, 2019 12:42:47 GMT
Careful what you wish for: remember, a few years ago he did some work with Kanye West and Rihanna.
But seriously, I agree. I think it’s probably hard collaborating when you’re a legend, one of the two main creative forces behind the Beatles (and thus in the history of popular music). Who is deemed worthy? But he’s done it before in Wings and with Elvis Costello with good results. I’d like to see him try it again.
But with whom?
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Post by kds on Aug 1, 2019 12:50:47 GMT
Careful what you wish for: remember, a few years ago he did some work with Kanye West and Rihanna. But seriously, I agree. I think it’s probably hard collaborating when you’re a legend, one of the two main creative forces behind the Beatles (and thus in the history of popular music). Who is deemed worthy? But he’s done it before in Wings and with Elvis Costello with good results. I’d like to see him try it again. But with whom? Jeff Lynne produced Flaming Pie, which is IMO Paul's last consistently good album, in 1997. Lynne has no writing credits, but I'm willing to bet he had something to do with the arrangements at least. Paul's had the same live band since around 2001. Maybe he could work with them.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Aug 1, 2019 12:52:05 GMT
I think it’s probably hard collaborating when you’re a legend, one of the two main creative forces behind the Beatles (and thus in the history of popular music). Who is deemed worthy? But he’s done it before in Wings and with Elvis Costello with good results. I’d like to see him try it again. But with whom?
...with Jeff Lynne producing, er, co-producing. Certainly Brian has to have, what, five or six aces sitting around from the Paley sessions, the Scott Bennett sessions, the Joe Thomas tapes, or dare I say a new song. Now is the time. Go for it!
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Post by Kapitan on Aug 1, 2019 13:59:08 GMT
Just so long as it IN NO WAY resembles A Friend Like You.
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Post by kds on Aug 1, 2019 15:03:53 GMT
Just so long as it IN NO WAY resembles A Friend Like You. Unfortunately, I think A Friend Like You echoes a lot of Paul's 21st century music.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Aug 1, 2019 15:25:02 GMT
Just so long as it IN NO WAY resembles A Friend Like You. Unfortunately, I think A Friend Like You echoes a lot of Paul's 21st century music. You guys know I'm not being serious about Brian and Paul collaborating, but I'm dead serious about desiring it. In my mind or imagination, it's always been one of those great "what if's". I can dream.
Again, I don't think there was ever a real chance of the two collaborating on a full album, but I wonder if "A Friend Like You" put a nail in the coffin of any future collaborating, even if it was just another song? I never found "A Friend Like You" to be truly awful. Disappointing? Yeah, but I did like Brian's vocals on the song.
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Post by B.E. on Aug 1, 2019 15:34:11 GMT
That ranking is a mess! McCartney II (#56) and Tug of War (#27) are too low. Kisses on the Bottom (#39), Beaucoups of Blues (#29), Egypt Station (#28), Memory Almost Full (#16), and Rock 'N' Roll (#11) are too high. These are just the obviously out of place selections. My list would be very different.
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Post by kds on Aug 1, 2019 16:27:05 GMT
Unfortunately, I think A Friend Like You echoes a lot of Paul's 21st century music. You guys know I'm not being serious about Brian and Paul collaborating, but I'm dead serious about desiring it. In my mind or imagination, it's always been one of those great "what if's". I can dream.
Again, I don't think there was ever a real chance of the two collaborating on a full album, but I wonder if "A Friend Like You" put a nail in the coffin of any future collaborating, even if it was just another song? I never found "A Friend Like You" to be truly awful. Disappointing? Yeah, but I did like Brian's vocals on the song. In 1966, that would've been a dream collaboration. And did Paul even have anything to do with A Friend Like You other than his vocals? It's credited to Brian, but to me, it sounds a lot like later era Paul, especially with the repeated title over and over. I think if Brian and Paul did actually sit down, even now, to write a song, they could do something far better.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Aug 1, 2019 16:37:11 GMT
You guys know I'm not being serious about Brian and Paul collaborating, but I'm dead serious about desiring it. In my mind or imagination, it's always been one of those great "what if's". I can dream.
Again, I don't think there was ever a real chance of the two collaborating on a full album, but I wonder if "A Friend Like You" put a nail in the coffin of any future collaborating, even if it was just another song? I never found "A Friend Like You" to be truly awful. Disappointing? Yeah, but I did like Brian's vocals on the song. In 1966, that would've been a dream collaboration. And did Paul even have anything to do with A Friend Like You other than his vocals? It's credited to Brian, but to me, it sounds a lot like later era Paul, especially with the repeated title over and over. I think if Brian and Paul did actually sit down, even now, to write a song, they could do something far better. Again, I'm being half serious and just making conversation, but using the above scenario, Brian could submit his songs to Paul and Jeff Lynne. Those two could take the songs and"flesh them out" and make any necessary alterations including lyrics. Jeff could produce the track, and then Brian could be called in to do the vocal arrangements and add his usual tweaking.
kds, you mentioned 1966, but actually now is the perfect time for the collaboration. I won't list all of the reasons - most are obvious and you can figure them out I'm sure. Are Brian and Paul functioning on the that same level as 1966? No, but that's why the team aspect is crucial and between the three of them...Hey, this forum is so popular and world-wide, maybe my idea will get back to them!
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Aug 1, 2019 16:40:48 GMT
That ranking is a mess! McCartney II (#56) and Tug of War (#27) are too low. Kisses on the Bottom (#39), Beaucoups of Blues (#29), Egypt Station (#28), Memory Almost Full (#16), and Rock 'N' Roll (#11) are too high. These are just the obviously out of place selections. My list would be very different. Agree. McCartney II and Tug of War are two of my favorites and deserved better.
I like Egypt Station, and I've been giving it a lot of listens, hoping it would grow on me more. I'm kind of stuck in a rut with it. Some tracks I like to hear repeatedly, but some are only OK. It's a good album, but I think the album lacks greatness.
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Post by kds on Aug 1, 2019 16:49:12 GMT
In 1966, that would've been a dream collaboration. And did Paul even have anything to do with A Friend Like You other than his vocals? It's credited to Brian, but to me, it sounds a lot like later era Paul, especially with the repeated title over and over. I think if Brian and Paul did actually sit down, even now, to write a song, they could do something far better. Again, I'm being half serious and just making conversation, but using the above scenario, Brian could submit his songs to Paul and Jeff Lynne. Those two could take the songs and"flesh them out" and make any necessary alterations including lyrics. Jeff could produce the track, and then Brian could be called in to do the vocal arrangements and add his usual tweaking.
kds, you mentioned 1966, but actually now is the perfect time for the collaboration. I won't list all of the reasons - most are obvious and you can figure them out I'm sure. Are Brian and Paul functioning on the that same level as 1966? No, but that's why the team aspect is crucial and between the three of them...Hey, this forum is so popular and world-wide, maybe my idea will get back to them! I'd love to see Brian and / or Paul work with Lynne. Lynne has gotten quality material from both in the past. And I actually agree about the ranking of McCartney II. I might even put some of those later Ringo albums ahead of it.
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Post by B.E. on Aug 1, 2019 16:49:26 GMT
Not that I wouldn't be super interested, but the problem with a Brian/Paul collaboration has always been that their strengths and weaknesses are more or less aligned.
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