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Post by kds on Apr 22, 2021 13:13:00 GMT
I thought this very news was released last few, but I guess...COVID. Hopefully, this extended EPK (I'm sorry, but at this point, I'm not expecting any more than this) is ready for viewing on a streaming platform I already have. Your expectations are almost certainly in order. That's been every release so far, why change it now? Pretty much. Prominent musicians gushing over Brian, random shots of Brian directing his band in rehearsals, Brian mentions Spector and The Four Freshman, shots of audience members dancing, laughing, and crying at a Brian show, yada yada.
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Post by Kapitan on Apr 22, 2021 13:38:38 GMT
And yet, formulaic and myth-reinforcing as they are, I look forward to each and every one, and find something to enjoy about each and every one. Go figure.
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Post by kds on Apr 22, 2021 13:44:52 GMT
Oh no doubt, I'll still watch. And probably buy the BluRay.
Hell, I've watched Doin' It Again more times than it deserves.
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Post by Kapitan on Apr 22, 2021 17:17:00 GMT
Saw this posted elsewhere: For the Long Promised Road doc, Brian recorded covers of Honeycomb, I Hear You Knockin', Johnny B. Goode, and Long Promised Road, the latter with Blondie Chaplin and Jim James from My Morning Jacket. I assume they're waiting for the documentary to be released. According to the director, Brian and Jim James also cowrote a song and sing it together on the recording. I revisited this post when this thread was raised again yesterday. That last sentence in particular is the one that piques my interest. The way I read it, this truly new song wasn't actually recorded properly (the way the previously mentioned covers and the remake are). Rather, it sounds like there may be footage of them writing and messing around with their new song.
Is that how others read it? The Cincinnati Kid, you don't happen to recall more specifically, do you?
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Post by The Cincinnati Kid on Apr 23, 2021 0:12:48 GMT
Saw this posted elsewhere: For the Long Promised Road doc, Brian recorded covers of Honeycomb, I Hear You Knockin', Johnny B. Goode, and Long Promised Road, the latter with Blondie Chaplin and Jim James from My Morning Jacket. I assume they're waiting for the documentary to be released. According to the director, Brian and Jim James also cowrote a song and sing it together on the recording. I revisited this post when this thread was raised again yesterday. That last sentence in particular is the one that piques my interest. The way I read it, this truly new song wasn't actually recorded properly (the way the previously mentioned covers and the remake are). Rather, it sounds like there may be footage of them writing and messing around with their new song. Is that how others read it? The Cincinnati Kid, you don't happen to recall more specifically, do you? I don't really remember, to be honest. I recall it just being the song, but it would make sense for there to be some footage of the recording used in the film to show he's still got it.
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Post by Kapitan on Apr 23, 2021 12:35:04 GMT
No problem. The way that initial post was worded, it just seems to make a distinction between the new song and the covers.
It might be that the new song is a fully finished recording (which is of course what I want) that also happens to be shown in the documentary; but it also might be that it isn't a fully finished recording, and is just shown in the documentary. (The way "Saturday Morning in the City" was on one documentary at one time ... I forget which and when.)
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Post by Emdeeh on Apr 23, 2021 12:54:32 GMT
Hopefully it will be released to streaming shortly thereafter. The Tribeca Film Festival is virtual this year.
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Post by Kapitan on Apr 23, 2021 13:10:04 GMT
Hopefully it will be released to streaming shortly thereafter. The Tribeca Film Festival is virtual this year. Sure, but I mean my hope is that it will be broadly available for all on a major streaming platform (regardless of how it is screened via the festival).
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Post by kds on Apr 23, 2021 13:15:29 GMT
I really hope it's one I already subscribe to.
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Post by Emdeeh on Apr 23, 2021 17:56:29 GMT
I meant you could buy a pass to the film festival and see it before it comes to streaming services, theaters, and home video.
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Post by Kapitan on Apr 23, 2021 18:00:41 GMT
Thanks, point taken.
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Post by Kapitan on Apr 24, 2021 12:51:14 GMT
One dynamic I am curious about with this documentary is how they treat the Beach Boys. Obviously through the years, Brian's projected opinion has varied from wanting to be in the band, to not wanting to be in the band, to acting as if the band doesn't want him, and back again. It's all over the map.
But it's interesting because it was made a couple of years ago, when it really seemed like a relative low point. Post C50 the messaging has been pretty consistently negative about the Beach Boys, and he even began regularly touring with other Beach Boys in his band in what seemed to be a more direct challenge at authenticity. (Yes, he had Al for some Pet Sounds shows circa '07, but since C50 he had Al consistently, Blondie for about five years, and even David Marks for a tour and some of the album.)
So if this was being filmed in, say, 2017-18 or so, is he going to be especially negative about the band?
All of it is interesting because of course it seems as if there is almost certainly a C60 coming up in the fall. So instead of a couple-years-old doc where he dismisses or badmouths his band, it might be contemporaneous.
The Beach Boys have certainly been through worse, I'm not saying that would be some tragic thing from their perspective. But it just may make for an interesting dynamic and bit of contradictory messaging.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Apr 24, 2021 13:09:52 GMT
Total speculation of course, but I think "The Beach Boys situation" will be addressed early and hard. Very hard. You can't have a documentary on the SOLO Brian Wilson and not put some strong perspective on why he's proceeding that way in the first place. The Beach Boys' shadow will always loom over anything Brian does, and this doc will be no exception. However, after they get...that...out of the way, I don't think The Beach Boys will be a big part of the film, other than when/if Brian mentions them specifically when discussing the recordings (and, wasn't that supposed to be a big part of the documentary, diving around in a car?).
Also, as I noted somewhere way above, Melinda is one of the producers of the film. I don't know how much she had to do with meat and potatoes of the filming, but I am sure she was very vocal at the inception, and I am even more sure that she had the final say. Her fingerprints will be all over the way the Beach Boys - and probably specifically Mike Love - were handled. Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if this is a kind of continuation of the Love And Mercy movie, like Part 2.
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Post by Kapitan on Apr 24, 2021 14:05:01 GMT
Total speculation of course, but I think "The Beach Boys situation" will be addressed early and hard. Very hard. You can't have a documentary on the SOLO Brian Wilson and not put some strong perspective on why he's proceeding that way in the first place.
Right, and usually that's some retelling of the origin story of the group, ending with some version of "but he outgrew them, they didn't understand him," etc. But in this case, there was a reunion--and not so long ago--and now he's solo again. (And by the time we view it, he may not be quite so solo again.)
So if it's "I really wanted to be a Beach Boy again, but Mike just wasn't going to let that happen. So I got fired* from my own band! And now I'm just on my own, I guess I'll never be a Beach Boy again...," then that may be an awkward thing to have aired while simultaneously he's back doing 60th projects with the Beach Boys. That's what I'm saying. It's as if C50 happened in the immediate wake of BWPS.
*Yes, yes, he wasn't fired.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Apr 24, 2021 14:19:30 GMT
Total speculation of course, but I think "The Beach Boys situation" will be addressed early and hard. Very hard. You can't have a documentary on the SOLO Brian Wilson and not put some strong perspective on why he's proceeding that way in the first place.
Right, and usually that's some retelling of the origin story of the group, ending with some version of "but he outgrew them, they didn't understand him," etc. But in this case, there was a reunion--and not so long ago--and now he's solo again. (And by the time we view it, he may not be quite so solo again.)
So if it's "I really wanted to be a Beach Boy again, but Mike just wasn't going to let that happen. So I got fired* from my own band! And now I'm just on my own, I guess I'll never be a Beach Boy again...," then that may be an awkward thing to have aired while simultaneously he's back doing 60th projects with the Beach Boys. That's what I'm saying. It's as if C50 happened in the immediate wake of BWPS.
*Yes, yes, he wasn't fired.
...and that's pretty much what I'm expecting, again early and to the point (whether you believe it or not). But, you know, something else which has been a large part of The Beach Boys' history has been these change-of-heart, everything is great, it's all in the past statements and press releases by the band - especially by Mike and Brian - and that's probably what will happen again in 2021-2022. I really don't expect this film to do much or get much attention, and by the time serious reunion promotion is...necessary...Long Promised Road will be pretty much forgotten. It probably is by Brian already.
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