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Post by beachboystalkmatt on Aug 16, 2021 20:48:01 GMT
Please join us tomorrow (Tuesday) at 8 Eastern as we discuss the new Feel Flows Box set with David Beard from ESQ and Mark Linett! We will also be giving away a free copy of the two-vinyl set of Feel flows. Should be a fun night! This is part one of a two-part series. Next week we will discuss Feel Flows again with David Beard, and joining us will be Alan Boyd! You can catch us on Facebook Live, Youtube, or Twitch. Hope you will join us!
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Post by Kapitan on Aug 16, 2021 20:49:10 GMT
Fantastic!
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Aug 17, 2021 11:29:05 GMT
Looks like another good one!
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Aug 18, 2021 11:15:00 GMT
Great show, guys. Mark, like your other guests, had a fascinating journey through the years, and continues to do so. He was very instrumental in so many BB/BW releases in the last three decades.
Matt, as far as The Beach Boys morphing into a "different band" circa 1970, and as we know, beyond that, IMO has mostly to do with Brian Wilson's participation (or lack of), and his emotional/mental...condition...at certain crucial times. I know you know this, but for the 1962-1968 era, Brian (and to a lesser extent Mike) led/carried/dominated the SONGWRITING and lead SINGING duties. Obviously, when those two were no longer in those roles, and others came to the forefront, the "sound" changed. It was a different band. The songwriters were different, the producers were different, and the singers were different. So, ultimately, the music is (almost completely) different. Matt, you specifically mentioned Sunflower and Surf's Up. Look at the songs on those respective albums. How many lead vocals (and I don't just mean a line here or there) did Brian and Mike sing? How many COMPLETE, new songs did Brian write? And, I realize the times they were a-changin' (in many different ways) which affected the music, too, especially the subject matter of the songs.
I don't want to oversimplify and insinuate it was just a math equation, but if you look at the NUMBER of songs that Brian and Mike wrote and sang - and then didn't - well...
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Post by Kapitan on Aug 18, 2021 13:53:08 GMT
I didn't listen live, but am looking forward to checking it out today.
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Post by Kapitan on Aug 18, 2021 17:04:03 GMT
Love the Many Moods of Matt. I really disagree about some aspects of this one. I don't think Surf's Up is all that big a departure from Sunflower, really. The lyrics might be more pessimistic or "socially aware," but the albums sound pretty similar to me. And in both cases, you're looking at the multiple songwriters, multiple lead vocalists, diverse styles within each album.
Those two albums hang together as an era for me (along with some of the 20/20 stuff), and not particularly shocking or jarring from what came before. The most jarring transitions in my opinion are Pet Sounds to Smiley Smile (especially if you imagine not having heard the Smile material in between), Holland to 15 Big Ones, and Keepin The Summer Alive to BB85. To me, everything else follows relatively naturally from what came before it.
Certainly the perception that the early '70s albums aren't cohesive is because, well, they aren't. That's just true. When you don't have a leader, you have a democracy, which is kind of chaos. Especially once Ricky and Blondie joined the group, you have a few mini-bands going on simultaneously. Yet Holland hangs together really well despite that, primarily because the production was consistent. And I personally think the production is pretty consistent sounding across Sunflower and Surf's Up, too. I think it does help hold things together.
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