zinczag
The Surfer Moon
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Post by zinczag on Aug 15, 2021 9:41:18 GMT
Hm, figured "1" would suffice without leaving reasons (frankly, it deserves 0) but, I really can't stand TITM, hate it since initial listening to Sunflower back in 2010. Which is 1st BBs album played start to finish. Then, placing it against different BBs songs, it's definitely, to these ears, in Top 10 worst BBs songs. I hate literally everything about it - cringy music, arrangement, the melodramatic attitude by Bruce. Yikes. Ridiculous. Regarding "It's About Time", it's jolly weak, drums is the single good thing about it but it ain't saving grace in this case. I shan't tell anything about lyrics,I ain't lyric dissecter. Bottom line: 1/10 it is. Fair enough. It's helpful to me to know the reasoning behind the ratings, especially when a particular rating is vastly different from the majority of them. Your explanation is right to the point without being insulting and that's respectable. We're all going to have different pov's and that's what generates good healthy discussion. Thanks bro.👊 'Preciate it.✊ NB: It's peculiar that thru years general view regarding "Tears" switched.🤔 It used to be the nadir of Sunflower, going by fans' Rank The Tracks: Sunflower reviews & general album Sunflower reviews.
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Post by Kapitan on Aug 15, 2021 12:45:47 GMT
Today is the final day for voting on "Tears in the Morning" b/w "It's About Time." If you haven't yet done so, please add your vote to the mix. Great time for any last comments, too.
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Post by Kapitan on Aug 15, 2021 15:34:44 GMT
We've mentioned a little about "Tears in the Morning" being a bit verbose, but there hasn't been a lot of criticism about the lyrical content itself
There is one thing that has always rubbed me the wrong way, but I wonder how others have felt about it over the years. I don't at all like the premise behind "so you moved out up to Europe." I get that by Sunflower, the band were presenting a more grown-up image, and so the time of a breakup meaning no more would a breakup song be that Susie is dating Johnny the quarterback instead of the singer. It's adult stuff, I get it.
But she moved to Europe with his baby? It doesn't strike me as the most relatable storyline of all time for the casual listener. My understanding is that trips to Europe were actually cheaper in the late '60s and into the '70s thanks to the postwar economies. But even so, it sounds to me like "first-world problems." And knowing Bruce was raised in a wealthy household just makes it worse. It's like "I miss my girlfriend, she's been sent off to Bryn Mawr while I'm stuck at Harvard."
Yes, I am reading into it more than is there. But I'm just trying to express the feeling I get with that line in particular. It seems very exclusive to me. Between that in this song, and the B-side about the trials and tribulations of being a rock star, the subject matter on both sides of this single lack the relatability of not just the early surf-cars-high school-romance songs, but even of the increasingly mature music like Pet Sounds. It's "Problems of the Rich & Famous." And frankly, I don't care.
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Post by kds on Aug 16, 2021 1:14:35 GMT
The only lyric on Tears that ever stood out to me was the use of the word "damn."
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2021 1:16:46 GMT
We've mentioned a little about "Tears in the Morning" being a bit verbose, but there hasn't been a lot of criticism about the lyrical content itself
There is one thing that has always rubbed me the wrong way, but I wonder how others have felt about it over the years. I don't at all like the premise behind "so you moved out up to Europe." I get that by Sunflower, the band were presenting a more grown-up image, and so the time of a breakup meaning no more would a breakup song be that Susie is dating Johnny the quarterback instead of the singer. It's adult stuff, I get it.
But she moved to Europe with his baby? It doesn't strike me as the most relatable storyline of all time for the casual listener. My understanding is that trips to Europe were actually cheaper in the late '60s and into the '70s thanks to the postwar economies. But even so, it sounds to me like "first-world problems." And knowing Bruce was raised in a wealthy household just makes it worse. It's like "I miss my girlfriend, she's been sent off to Bryn Mawr while I'm stuck at Harvard."
Yes, I am reading into it more than is there. But I'm just trying to express the feeling I get with that line in particular. It seems very exclusive to me. Between that in this song, and the B-side about the trials and tribulations of being a rock star, the subject matter on both sides of this single lack the relatability of not just the early surf-cars-high school-romance songs, but even of the increasingly mature music like Pet Sounds. It's "Problems of the Rich & Famous." And frankly, I don't care.
I think it's been pretty unanimous in this thread that the lyrics are the weakest part of the song. They're clumsy and awkward. I'm not sure what you're getting at about the moving to Europe part, but there are other lines that make me scratch my head. (Wonder if she went after child support?)
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Post by Kapitan on Aug 16, 2021 11:15:42 GMT
Eleven voters rated Tears in the Morning b/w It's About Time an average of 5.7. I'll update the ratings thread and our next single will be up shortly.
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Post by lonelysummer on Aug 16, 2021 20:22:28 GMT
The only lyric on Tears that ever stood out to me was the use of the word "damn." There was a member on one of these boards - probably back in the old Cabinessence days - that did some comics about the Beach Boys; Mike arguing for the formula, Carl keeping the peace...and Bruce ruining everything by swearing again! I wish I could find those again, they were hilarious, and accurate. Damn you, Bruce, your song has got me crying again.
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