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Post by Kapitan on Jul 28, 2021 17:10:01 GMT
Sorry for this late live-blogging but another quick comment (I hope) on this basic topic. (I'm not even up to Kalinich yet!) But I think the question seems to keep morphing from the quality of the live band, the type of music performed, the quality of the albums. At one point it seems the issue is the albums would've been better had they been off the road, but then there's a comment about how good the studio material already was and how there's another album's worth of unreleased Sunflower/Surf's Up era music.
Also, I don't want to be critical, but I do think you're overplaying the somewhat discredited idea that Brian was 100% (or 99%, etc.) of the albums while the band was out there doing early '60s hits on the road. I agree that the live music was obviously not the full arrangements, and obviously Brian did dominate in the studio, but it's not as if the band weren't contributing both vocally and instrumentally. And as the '60s went on, the band dropped the striped shirts for the white suits (too late!), added supplemental musicians, expanded the set lists.
A quick look at a random 1968 Beach Boys setlist shows that among the 16 songs are Darlin, Friends, Little Bird, Do it Again, and Wake the World, not to mention Wouldn't It Be Nice, God Only Knows, Sloop John B, and of course Good Vibrations. There are only six pre-Pet Sounds songs, with one being a medley comprising five early hits. I think that actually speaks to the live band continuing to change more than they're given credit for. They were NOT performing "Cabinessence" or anything, there's no arguing that. But neither were they playing a show highlighting "Monster Mash" and "Papa Ooh Mow Mow," or even "I Get Around" and "Little Deuce Coupe."
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Post by Kapitan on Jul 28, 2021 18:25:50 GMT
OK finally finished. (Kept being interrupted by ... work. Which, I guess, is fair enough.)
Kalinich certainly had some interesting stories. His mind wanders a bit and the stories stray, but there was some very interesting content in what he had to say. And he certainly seems to be a very positive person, which is always a good thing. Excellent interview, great show. Thanks, guys.
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Post by beachboystalkmatt on Jul 28, 2021 18:51:57 GMT
Sorry for this late live-blogging but another quick comment (I hope) on this basic topic. (I'm not even up to Kalinich yet!) But I think the question seems to keep morphing from the quality of the live band, the type of music performed, the quality of the albums. At one point it seems the issue is the albums would've been better had they been off the road, but then there's a comment about how good the studio material already was and how there's another album's worth of unreleased Sunflower/Surf's Up era music.
Also, I don't want to be critical, but I do think you're overplaying the somewhat discredited idea that Brian was 100% (or 99%, etc.) of the albums while the band was out there doing early '60s hits on the road. I agree that the live music was obviously not the full arrangements, and obviously Brian did dominate in the studio, but it's not as if the band weren't contributing both vocally and instrumentally. And as the '60s went on, the band dropped the striped shirts for the white suits (too late!), added supplemental musicians, expanded the set lists.
A quick look at a random 1968 Beach Boys setlist shows that among the 16 songs are Darlin, Friends, Little Bird, Do it Again, and Wake the World, not to mention Wouldn't It Be Nice, God Only Knows, Sloop John B, and of course Good Vibrations. There are only six pre-Pet Sounds songs, with one being a medley comprising five early hits. I think that actually speaks to the live band continuing to change more than they're given credit for. They were NOT performing "Cabinessence" or anything, there's no arguing that. But neither were they playing a show highlighting "Monster Mash" and "Papa Ooh Mow Mow," or even "I Get Around" and "Little Deuce Coupe."
Fair points! Maybe it has to do with their unhip image as well at the time, rather than the music. Glad you enjoyed the show. I really enjoyed Stephens tidbits about Dennis and how he pulled the melodies out of thin air so to speak. Next week we are having on Ron Altbach! Looking forward to hearing about his experiences as well!
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