I think among other things I considered the last trio of tracks to be on a par with the last three tracks on TWGMTR (he said, strapping on his hard hat).
Heh, I don't think you'll need a hard hat. Whether I agree--which, from what I've heard of Eilish, I feel pretty safe saying I don't--isn't important. It's not a fun time for me to rake others over the coals on their taste. Even if I thought there were some kind of objective measure of quality (which I really don't, especially on music as a whole as opposed to specific aspects like "hitting that note"), I would have no reason to think my taste aligns with it.
Without feeling confident about calling them classics, here are some of the most recent albums I think at least warrant serious consideration for the title. Or at least a listen. In reverse chronological order by year, going back about two decades (which hilariously feels somewhat recent to me, but obviously for some of you may be the bulk of your lives).
2007 - Okkervil River, The Stage Names
2007 - Iron & Wine, The Shepherd's Dog
Odd not to see Hissing Fauna... on your list. "The Past Is A Grotesque Animal" is now one of my all-time favourite album tracks thanks to you, sir.
As for When We All Fall Asleep..., I gave it another listen a few days ago and I still think it holds up wonderfully well, even to someone several generations removed from Ms Eilish. I like the stripped down approach, real less-is-more stuff. I'm sure it will be remembered when most other albums of 2019 have long slipped into obscurity.
Agreeing it is odd, I went back to investigate: seems I intended to include it, but made an embarrassing typo, listing "Of Montreal, Heimdalsgate...," so I accidentally listed the first word of a song title instead of the album title. But your instinct was correct: I should (and indeed mean to) include Hissing Fauna, Are You the Destroyer? (Though "The Past..." is one of my least favorite songs on the album!)
If you're so inclined, help make Pitchfork's upcoming "25 Best Albums of the Past 25 Years" list better than you know it is going to otherwise be. Readers can vote anytime up through August 20. You must provide a list ranking at least 10, but up to 25, albums.
It's funny to me thinking how different this is likely to look compared to if they had done something like this in, say, 2011, with their style and perspective having massively changed in the '10s. The kind of guitar-based indie rock they were founded on has long-since given way to a more pop- and rap-oriented base. I'd assume (?) the majority of their readers are of the new ilk, but maybe there are other "legacy readers" such as myself who have shifted from majority to minority opinions within the site.
A more thorough overview of my thoughts on the most recent classic albums, maybe: my top 25 albums of the past 25 years for the aforementioned Pitchfork poll. I had another 30-something candidates that I ended up not using, but all of which I'd be rating probably in that 8.5+ territory.
Pursuant to kds and my conversation in the News thread, I kept track of which albums it prepopulated and which it didn't. An x before the artist means it did. What's really funny is how many of the artists I chose prepopulated, but not the albums I chose--even in cases like The Mountain Goats where they had something like six or seven prepopulated options and I chose two albums! But also Bob Dylan, Kacey Musgraves (where they had everything else except the one I chose), Beulah... In the end, they knew about half of my choices.
Cotton Mather, Kontiki (1997) xNeutral Milk Hotel, In the Aeroplane Over the Sea (1998) Bob Dylan, Love & Theft (2001) xVampire Weekend, Father of the Bride (2019) xJoanna Newsom, Ys (2006)
xBelle & Sebastian, Dear Catastrophe Waitress (2003) xOf Montreal, A Satanic Panic in the Attic (2004) Herman Dune, Giant (2006) xDavid Bowie, Blackstar (2016) xTom Waits, Mule Variations (1998)
The Mountain, Goats Beat the Champ (2015) xBrian Wilson, BW Presents Smile (2004) xCourtney Barnett, Sometimes I Sit And Think…(2015) Lou Reed, Ecstasy (2000) xThe Shins, Chutes Too Narrow (2003)
xFiona Apple, The Idler… (2012) The Beach Boys, That’s Why God Made the Radio (2012) Puerto Muerto, See You in Hell (2005) Kacey Musgraves, Same Trailer Different Park (2013) Andy Shauf, The Neon Skyline (2020)
Voxtrot, Raised By Wolves (2005) The Mountain Goats, Tallahassee (2002) Beulah, The Coast is Never Clear (2001) xRadiohead, OK Computer (1997) xHaim, Women in Music pt III (2020)
Apologies to Beck, Beulah (again), Dylan (again), the Delgados, the Fiery Furnaces (several times), D'Angelo, the Magnetic Fields, Parquet Courts, Iron & Wine, Meghan Trainor (yep), the Flaming Lips, Elvis Costello, Heartless Bastards, Okkervil River, more Of Montreal, more Kacey Musgraves, more Tom Waits, Wilco, Amy Winehouse, the Streets, Eels, De La Soul, Simon Bookish, MGMT, and Kiwi Jr. You were considered!
Kapitan: Yes, let's keep it going. If you're not sure which years we've covered, check the first post of the thread: I've edited it to list each year we've touched upon.
Sept 22, 2021 13:10:08 GMT
jk: If no one jumps in soon, I'll go for 1997, which is 13 years back from 2010. Fact is, we haven't had a '90s year yet.
Sept 22, 2021 13:46:32 GMT
Kapitan: No, but we do have a whole '90s thread that covered a lot of that territory. (In fact, that's what inspired the idea, to some extent)
Sept 22, 2021 13:52:28 GMT
Kapitan: Not that I'm opposed to a '90s year, mind you
Sept 22, 2021 13:52:58 GMT
jk: I see where you're coming from, Cap'n. I even did a double-take when looking through 1997 albums and songs (these look familiar!). My next suggestion is that we go back 13 years from 1972 to 1959.
Sept 22, 2021 17:04:34 GMT
jk: OK, it's one of the "doldrum years" but it was crammed full of goodies that even register with folks who weren't born for another 20 years. Of course, if anyone has a better idea, I'm all for it.
Sept 22, 2021 17:05:59 GMT
Kapitan: That would make sense; we also haven't really touched the early to mid 80s, which I'm sure people (mostly) recall. And of course EVERY year in the '60s seems loaded...
Sept 22, 2021 17:06:53 GMT
jk: Yes, the early-ish '80s also came to mind. But let's see who else joins in...
Sept 22, 2021 17:08:04 GMT
Kapitan: So far we've had me, jk, kds, and carllove choosing years. Would love to expand that circle.
Sept 22, 2021 17:13:20 GMT
Kapitan: Which, I guess with four of us so far, is more a square.
Sept 22, 2021 17:13:38 GMT
jk: Ha, yes. Sheriff? B.E.? sockit? The Kid?... We'll see.
Sept 22, 2021 17:16:41 GMT
The Cincinnati Kid: I might come up with something. I love those kind of threads, but am terrible in participating. I still haven't posted anything for 2010.
Sept 22, 2021 19:26:41 GMT
lonelysummer: 1959 is a doldrums year? Hmm....
Sept 22, 2021 19:44:28 GMT
jk: That's what they say... you know, that period from *cough* "the day the music died" to the arrival of the British Invasion. Like you, I couldn't agree less with that notion, hence the inverted commas!
Sept 22, 2021 19:52:30 GMT
Kapitan: I assume he means the stereotype that between early rock and roll and the British Invasion, nothing happened. But that it was in quotes (plus his actual comments) make me think it was an ironic usage.
Sept 22, 2021 19:52:54 GMT
Kapitan: Whoops, near-simultaneous post. But it confirms my suspicion.
Sept 22, 2021 19:53:21 GMT
jk: Great minds and all that!
Sept 22, 2021 19:53:34 GMT
sockit: I would like to showcase the year 1983. That's the year I graduated high school and I was all in on what was current.
Sept 23, 2021 0:07:54 GMT
carllove: I was in College then. Sounds like a good year! Go for it! It’s a group effort!
Sept 23, 2021 4:31:48 GMT
carllove: BTW - I’d be down for 90’s years. I like the years being broken out. Meanwhile we can move to 1983 with sockit’s help. 1972 has ended its interest.
Sept 23, 2021 4:34:56 GMT