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Post by thedarkside on Oct 18, 2021 10:16:02 GMT
The 5CD set, has already been released.
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Post by Kapitan on Oct 18, 2021 11:30:40 GMT
If they meant Feel Flows, I think the writer could have done a better job. It would be quite a stretch to associate Feel Flows with the 60th other than coincidentally, and it's not what I think most people would think of as a retrospective, in that it's so narrow in its scope. It's obviously one in the series of copyright reissues, so framing it as part of the 60th isn't really accurate. (Plus, it being named, it wouldn't have killed them to name it to be more specific.)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2021 20:29:28 GMT
Yes who can take apart al's comment and explain what it means
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Post by Kapitan on Oct 18, 2021 20:36:22 GMT
Well the only part that's an actual quote (relevant to this point about the 5-disc set) is the word "hopefully."
The rest of it is a paraphrase by the writer. I would (again) argue that if you're talking about upcoming 60th anniversary promotion, it would not include a recently released recording that had nothing to do with the 60th anniversary--though I can see how that could end up in the finished piece thanks to either the writer's possible lack of familiarity with the details of the group or just a simple failure in minor editing, asking questions, clarifying.
But somehow I suspect that even if we had Jardine's full quote, it might not help--since history shows he's often willing to talk and not always exactly on the money.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2021 0:46:34 GMT
If The Beach Boys do the World Tour or any tour, would they be sold out all around the world? Was every show in the 50th Anniversary sold out?
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Post by thedarkside on Oct 19, 2021 6:45:25 GMT
No.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Oct 30, 2021 14:45:12 GMT
I was lurking on Smiley Smile and saw this post:
December's Mojo (Zep on the cover) features a brief Brian interview as part of the regular feature All back to my place Fave album, first album bought, fave Saturday night record... most interesting, he says he's "currently grooving" to The Rolling Stones, and HE STILL WANTS TO MAKE THAT ROCK AND ROLL ALBUM: "I've been wanting to make a rock'n'roll album for years and years. I have some ideas, so hopefully I'll be able to do that one next." -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
You know...why not? Seriously. Why not? Yes, Brian has been using that line for 35 years now. He used it in interviews to change the subject, probably to give the fans hope, and because it was a way to not have to think. You know, just throw it out instead of taking the time to give an in depth answer to a question. But, maybe, just maybe, the time for a rock & roll album is finally NOW! And, why not make it a Beach Boys' album?
When we think about a possible new album for the 60th Anniversary, one of the first questions is - what are they going to do for new songs? I suppose they could gather 12 or 13 songs/demos/sketches/outtakes from the vaults and finish them, in addition to supplementing that collection with one or two new B. Wilson/M. Love compositions. Or, they could forget that and just go with a rock and roll covers album.
They do have five potential lead vocalists for a rock & roll album - Mike, Brian, Al, Blondie, and Bruce (on a ballad). This is just a thought (and I don't even feel strongly about it), but they could include Dennis on "Sea Cruise" with a different track and new background vocals, and there is a rough take of "Da Doo Ron Ron" with Carl on lead vocal that could be finished. They have two guitar aces who I would love to hear turned loose in David Marks and Blondie. And, between both backing bands, there are plenty of excellent musicians to record the tracks. I'm thinking a project like this could be started and completed in a few weeks.
Capitol Records and Iconic, if you are reading, this is what I propose:
1. Have the album co-produced by Joe Thomas and Brian Wilson. At least with Joe around it would guarantee that the album would sound good. 2. No new songs included. This would avoid repeating the mistake they made with 15 Big Ones. 3. No Beach Boys' songs re-recorded. Enough of that. 4. Include a minimum of 12 songs but preferably 13 or 14. 5. Insist that Sheriff John Stone choose the final tracklist and sequence the album.
Other than weak vocals from Mike and Brian (which I think Joe Thomas could rectify), why would a project like this fail? Wouldn't this be a FUN offering to the fans for the 60th Anniversary! At this point, realistically, what else could they really do in the way of recording a new album? Oh, I'm not writing off a potential album of new material. I think it could be done. I just think this alternative is the most practical.
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Post by B.E. on Oct 30, 2021 15:21:43 GMT
SJS, I'm down! And, actually, I'm really liking the idea of including Dennis' "Sea Cruise" and Carl's "Da Doo Ron Ron" lead vocals (as long as the backing track and backing vocals are newly recorded and uniform with the album). And that's really the thing for me...I want consistency in sound and production. I want as much of it to be newly recorded as possible and I want them to settle on 2 or 3 "outside" vocalists (with Matt being the main one) to supplement the Boys but otherwise I want Brian, Mike, Al, and Bruce to be prominently featured on each track. And I agree about just sticking to covers. It'll make it all the more possible, not to mention it fits them just fine. One issue I could foresee is that Mike just did that (more or less) with 12 Sides of Summer and either simply may not be interested in doing that again or could use it as an excuse not to participate (not that I think he'd then offer up a reunion album of original material...we'd just get nothing). In that case, I'd hope Brian would continue in exactly the same way, just without Mike, and releasing it as a Brian Wilson album.
But, yes, NO re-recorded Beach Boys songs!!!
And NO perceptible autotune!!!!!
Edit: By the way, hearing the snippet of Brian's new song in the doc trailer has me more optimistic about new studio recordings from Brian/the Beach Boys.
Edit #2: Oh, and NO guest appearances/tributes.
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Post by Kapitan on Oct 30, 2021 16:23:57 GMT
I saw that and posted it in the interviews thread yesterday, but this clarifies a question I had: I'd seen a story elsewhere that seemed to lift at least some quotes from Mojo, and it wasn't clear whether it all was. Seems it all was.
That Beach Boys covers album as a 60th farewell? While it's not my favorite idea, it's better than no album. Though I don't know if Joe Thomas is the guy to produce a rocking sounding album. He's definitely more a smooth, easy listening kind of guy.
Getting a good-sounding track under "Da Doo Run Run" would be nice.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Oct 30, 2021 19:12:47 GMT
That Beach Boys covers album as a 60th farewell? While it's not my favorite idea, it's better than no album. Though I don't know if Joe Thomas is the guy to produce a rocking sounding album. He's definitely more a smooth, easy listening kind of guy.
I haven't read many interviews with Joe Thomas, but in the ones I have read, he doesn't appear to be a "dictator" like some producers are or could be. To me, Joe comes across as a laid back guy who welcomes input from Brian, though we know how that "works" in interviews. With an anniversary album where you are gathering Beach Boys from all over the place, it would be the perfect time to utilize all of the resources, too, meaning the musicians from the respective bands. Maybe Joe could use Darian Sahanaja for keyboards, Paul Von Mertens for horn arrangements, John Cowsill to do some rock & roll drumming, David Marks and Blondie for some guitar work, and Scott Totten for any ideas he might have. You know, kind of cherry-pick certain musicians for different roles. It's not that they would be overruling Joe's smooth, easy listening sound, but more like...showing the way (he says optimistically ).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2021 2:33:45 GMT
What's happening on the Beach Boys 60th anniversary thread?
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Post by Kapitan on Nov 10, 2021 2:37:32 GMT
What's happening on the Beach Boys 60th anniversary thread? Your post.
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Post by lonelysummer on Nov 10, 2021 4:36:41 GMT
When I think of a nearly 80 year old Brian Wilson, the last thing that comes to mind is rock and roll. He might have been able to do it back in the Landy years, but the rounder, white haired Brian doing material more like what was on Orange Crate Art - although I think those songs might be too challenging for him vocally now. But that problem can be worked around by including the other Beach Boys. I do like the idea of including Dennis and Carl, although "Da Doo Ron Ron" wouldn't be my choice for a Carl vocal. I'd rather they retool something like "Rockin' All Over the World" or "Chasin' the Sky". Have the backlog of Wilson/Thomas songs been used up with Imagination, No Pierre Pressure and That's Why Dog Made the Radio?
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Nov 10, 2021 12:26:57 GMT
When I think of a nearly 80 year old Brian Wilson, the last thing that comes to mind is rock and roll. He might have been able to do it back in the Landy years, but the rounder, white haired Brian doing material more like what was on Orange Crate Art - although I think those songs might be too challenging for him vocally now. But that problem can be worked around by including the other Beach Boys. I do like the idea of including Dennis and Carl, although "Da Doo Ron Ron" wouldn't be my choice for a Carl vocal. I'd rather they retool something like "Rockin' All Over the World" or "Chasin' the Sky". Have the backlog of Wilson/Thomas songs been used up with Imagination, No Pierre Pressure and That's Why Dog Made the Radio? To carry a whole album? No, I don't think an 80 year-old Brian would be up to that. Now, with significant contributions from a co-producer (and let's be honest, isn't that the history of Brian's solo albums and probably TWGMTR), yeah, it's feasible. And, as I suggested, if you spread the lead vocals around, that also adds to its feasibility. Sure, an old Brian Wilson isn't the best candidate to rock & roll, but on the other hand, it's probably the simplest or easiest...genre...for Brian to contribute to. He probably never lost his love and affection for that era.
I thought about "Rockin' All Over The World". I like the song and let's be honest, probably not a lot of people heard Carl's version. So, yeah, go for it. I guess it would depend if the other songs are 50s/60s oldies because "Rockin' All Over The World" is from the 70's, but it wouldn't really matter. Just think how it would sound to open a new Beach Boys' rock and roll album with a Carl-sung "Rockin' All Over The World".
If they wouldn't go with a rock and roll album, sure, see what's left of those Wilson/Thomas to start a new album. I'm a fan of almost all of them - so far. The question is...have all the good ones already been cherry-picked?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2021 17:03:50 GMT
I firmly believe that with the unlimited resources they have for musicians and studio time and Technology and collaboration that if the surviving Beach Boys all got together in the studio, and they wrote down on the yellow sheet of paper with a pen various songs that would make a final Beast Boy album and then planned how each would be arranged with what musicians and with what Beach Boys singing and playing what parts that they would come up with a fine, final, thoughtful, collaborative and important album.
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