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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Oct 15, 2021 11:17:38 GMT
The group's 60th anniversary will be marked by the release of a retrospective 5-CD, a new documentary and, "hopefully", a world tour, Jardine said.
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Post by Kapitan on Oct 15, 2021 11:54:32 GMT
Al always seems to spill the beans before official press releases and announcements.
The funny part is the 5-disc retrospective. How much more material is there to work with since 50 Big Ones or, for that matter, Made in California?
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Oct 15, 2021 11:59:17 GMT
If you want to see Brian Wilson rally with energy and excitement you get him on stage with the surviving Beach Boys. In some past discussions on a possible 60th Anniversary tour, I expressed my concern about what Brian would or could contribute to the show(s). I proposed trying to keep him interested and active, not just sitting at a piano and occasionally singing and plunking a few keys. Maybe Brian could alternate between playing his grand piano, playing an electric piano, playing the bass (for a song), sitting on a stool and singing, or standing in front of microphone and singing. I even proposed a situation (I know I'm reaching) where Brian only joins the group halfway through the show and/or leaves the stage for an extended period of time if Blondie or Al or anybody got a mini-solo set.
Prof, there's a saying in sports but I guess it could be applicable to other areas, too - You can't defeat Father Time. As I posted above, at least at this time, Brian can no longer walk on or off the stage without assistance. I guess that severely cuts into my plans/thoughts. Do you remember during C50 when Jeff Foskett introduced each band member at the beginning of the show and they walked out to the stage to applause?
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Post by kds on Oct 15, 2021 12:14:36 GMT
Al always seems to spill the beans before official press releases and announcements.
The funny part is the 5-disc retrospective. How much more material is there to work with since 50 Big Ones or, for that matter, Made in California?
I was wondering about that too. Will it be just a padded out compilation with maybe a half a disc's worth of goodies to try to entice the diehards? Maybe, it'll be a catch all for all of those random non album tracks that are floating around (ie. Ten Years Harmony, Sea Cruise, Rock and Roll to the Rescue, Problem Child, Do It Again '12, etc etc).
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Post by Kapitan on Oct 15, 2021 12:22:30 GMT
I'm sorry, but a reunion will not lead to "energy and excitement ... on stage" from Brian Wilson. That's just not realistic, unless you define the terms in the loosest possible sense.
He will not get up, he will not move around, he will not dance the boogie, he will not chit-chat with the crowd or his bandmates. He will sit behind a keyboard in a grand piano shell, playing a little, singing a little, and mostly doing nothing.
I don't say that to complain or to be derogatory toward him: that's who he has been on stage for decades now, whether with or without the Beach Boys. Let's not pretend that being in the vicinity of his old band will turn him into 1982 David Lee Roth or 1977 Freddie Mercury.
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Post by kds on Oct 15, 2021 12:32:57 GMT
I'm sorry, but a reunion will not lead to "energy and excitement ... on stage" from Brian Wilson. That's just not realistic, unless you define the terms in the loosest possible sense.
He will not get up, he will not move around, he will not dance the boogie, he will not chit-chat with the crowd or his bandmates. He will sit behind a keyboard in a grand piano shell, playing a little, singing a little, and mostly doing nothing.
I don't say that to complain or to be derogatory toward him: that's who he has been on stage for decades now, whether with or without the Beach Boys. Let's not pretend that being in the vicinity of his old band will turn him into 1982 David Lee Roth or 1977 Freddie Mercury.
That's pretty much what he did in 2012. I remember him rocking back and forth at the piano a couple times at the show I attended. And, they put a bass guitar on him as a nod to the early years during the encore.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2021 18:52:10 GMT
Nah, you guys are right of course . he will do much but for some reason I just feel extremely silly like I put all my emotional investment to the idea of seeing this heroic reunions one more time. So I admit to being silly and overly optimistic but you never know what could happen.
Sometimes the old Gunslinger as in The Unforgiven can take that six shooter Off the Wall just one more time with heroic results. And since we're going to be a World Tour I guess they'll be plenty of opportunity for heroism.
I'll believe in the world tour exactly at the moment when I hear the opening notes of California Gurls or do it again from my distance seat in the Hollywood Bowl.
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Post by kds on Oct 15, 2021 19:00:13 GMT
I want to see a reunion too, and I think a reunion would be the right way to close the book on The Beach Boys, rather than have the story end with two (three if you include Al's side shows) different touring bands. But, I would expect the reunion to be some sort of shot in the arm to Brian, or Mike for that rather whose vocals have also really declined since C50.
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Post by lonelysummer on Oct 16, 2021 2:18:15 GMT
I want to see a reunion too, and I think a reunion would be the right way to close the book on The Beach Boys, rather than have the story end with two (three if you include Al's side shows) different touring bands. But, I would expect the reunion to be some sort of shot in the arm to Brian, or Mike for that rather whose vocals have also really declined since C50. The book will not close on the Beach Boys until there are none of them left. What I wonder is who will be the last ones standing? Based on their appearance, I would say Al and Mike (not casting my net to the larger BB world, such as Blondie and David). In that case, would Mike throw the bitterness aside, and want Al back into the group?
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Post by B.E. on Oct 16, 2021 7:44:34 GMT
For the record, I'd be interested in (as opposed to ecstatic about) attending a Beach Boys reunion concert. I've never been a big concertgoer, so that's certainly part of it, but as I pondered a Beach Boys reunion today I began daydreaming of a Beatles reunion - of John, Paul, George, and Ringo reuniting for a concert. I'd do just about anything to attend! (I'd probably spend thousands of dollars ) But, then I awoke to the reality of John and George's passing, and reconsidered a reunion of Paul and Ringo...welp, not so excited. I've seen Paul twice, I'd like to see Ringo...but it wouldn't be The Beatles. Still, you'd think I'd want to go, but after considering the price of a ticket, travel time, likely proximity to the stage, their declined abilities, the predictable setlist...I don't know...I might attend/I might not. And this is more or less how I feel about the Beach Boys. While I still wouldn't be quite as excited as I would a Beatles reunion (as you'd expect when comparing your favorite band to your second favorite band), I'd do just about anything to attend a reunion of Brian, Dennis, Carl, Mike, and Al (and Bruce). But, that's not possible. And without Carl and Dennis, it's not really The Beach Boys. (Not that I'd oppose them using the name, like I would Paul and Ringo calling themselves the Beatles, though.)
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Post by B.E. on Oct 16, 2021 8:01:03 GMT
And sorry to be negative (and I may have expressed this previously), but part of me can't help but find the very idea of a Beach Boys anniversary/reunion silly (if not distasteful). Like a divorced couple getting together every 10 years to celebrate their wedding anniversary or something.
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Post by kds on Oct 16, 2021 12:41:55 GMT
To each their own, but I wouldn't find anything distasteful after giving fans one last chance to see Brian, Mike, and Al together. Personal stuff aside, it's entertainment at the end of the day.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Oct 16, 2021 12:42:24 GMT
I'd do just about anything to attend a reunion of Brian, Dennis, Carl, Mike, and Al (and Bruce). But, that's not possible. And without Carl and Dennis, it's not really The Beach Boys. No, it's not, and probably 99.9% of the fans attending view it that way, or not, meaning it's not really The Beach Boys. We've been conditioned with Mike & Bruce's touring to realize and accept that, while we still follow them and support them (I don't know what percentage THAT is). But, I don't think there is any denying that a certain dynamic exists when a NUMBER of Beach Boys gather together every so many years. Yeah, they don't exactly interact very much with each other on stage, or sitting together, or being interviewed, or whatever. But a vibe does still exist and emanate. I feel it and I think most do (there's that sentimentality again ). Things just seem better in a lot of ways, you know, the sum of the parts, family and friends, Brian and Mike together, David Marks back, and all of that.
BTW, and I know this isn't the thread for it, but I think a Paul McCartney-Ringo Starr tour would be a rousing success, too. I would pay big bucks for that one!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2021 17:59:03 GMT
Well the word around town here in Los Angeles where Ringo lives is that he is completely up for it but it's Paul that hasn't been on board. For some reason Paul seems to favor these random guest appearances unrehearsed. They can be deeply thrilling but somewhat unsatisfying to hear Ringo playing along with another drummer who is perfectly mimicking the famous parts that Ringo himself had composed on the records. Sometimes it's not completely clear your hearing Ringo's drums themselves. So the idea of a Beatles band with Ringo as the drummer recreating songs like I saw her standing there and daytripper and A Hard Day's Night would be a joy but it would take Serious rehearsal and focus and Arrangement and orchestration. Until then you're going to get the random one song or two with Ringo sort of joking around with the other drummer about missed beats or the Precision of the part. The feeling in spirit and joy Ringo's playing are always there but he's not carrying 100% of the burden of laying down the drums.
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Post by lonelysummer on Oct 17, 2021 1:21:10 GMT
Well the word around town here in Los Angeles where Ringo lives is that he is completely up for it but it's Paul that hasn't been on board. For some reason Paul seems to favor these random guest appearances unrehearsed. They can be deeply thrilling but somewhat unsatisfying to hear Ringo playing along with another drummer who is perfectly mimicking the famous parts that Ringo himself had composed on the records. Sometimes it's not completely clear your hearing Ringo's drums themselves. So the idea of a Beatles band with Ringo as the drummer recreating songs like I saw her standing there and daytripper and A Hard Day's Night would be a joy but it would take Serious rehearsal and focus and Arrangement and orchestration. Until then you're going to get the random one song or two with Ringo sort of joking around with the other drummer about missed beats or the Precision of the part. The feeling in spirit and joy Ringo's playing are always there but he's not carrying 100% of the burden of laying down the drums. Paul wants everything to be about him, and having Ringo there means he has to share the spotlight. Since Lennon's death, Paul has carried this heavy burden of thinking that the public thinks John did everything and Paul just booked the studio. Paul is all about self promotion. The Beach Boys C50 reunion was nice, but to me, it did feel a bit hollow without Dennis and Carl. Add to that the fact that any reunion concert is going to be very expensive. One of the reasons I go to Mike and Bruce's shows is because I can get a good seat for $30 and still have money for a corn dog and curly fries.
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