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Post by kds on Apr 27, 2021 12:31:00 GMT
It's not the whole song, but the similarity in the chorus is inescapable. Girl don't tell me you'll write-ite-ite Girl don't tell me you'll write-ite-ite Girl don't tell me you'll write me again this time I always thought the similarity was that the short guitar part after the chorus of "Girl Don't Tell Me" was very similar to the guitar intro of "Ticket To Tide". I also wonder if the lyrics to "Girl Don't Tell Me" were influenced by "Ticket To Ride"...you know, after the girl that's going away has come back. The lyrics to "Girl Don't Tell Me" were written by Brian, not Mike. I don't know how the timeline lays out. Yes, that too. Somehow I'd forgotten about that.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Apr 27, 2021 12:40:26 GMT
I have an honest question for those of you who were conscious in the mid 60s (or at least soon thereafter): was it common to call or refer to girls/young women as "little girl" the way the first line of this song goes? Or do you think it was just a way to fit the rhyme scheme and meter?
Not trying to stir things up or anything: I don't think this is some kind of "Hey Little Tomboy" creepy thing. But it just struck me yesterday--for the first time ever in my 20+ years knowing this song--as a strange thing to say. "Hi, little girl, it's me..." If we assume the characters are teenagers, I can't imagine a teenage girl being complimented by that. And among older people it's even stranger.
Was it just common slang?
I was "around" but not old enough to notice or relate to the term. I'm guessing it was a popular term, especially in movies, music, and some parts of society. However, like many things, through the years it was considered offensive and outdated.
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Post by Kapitan on Apr 27, 2021 12:42:49 GMT
That's what I figured. It's just funny to me, is all. (So is almost all slang, honestly.)
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Post by kds on Apr 27, 2021 12:44:56 GMT
I have an honest question for those of you who were conscious in the mid 60s (or at least soon thereafter): was it common to call or refer to girls/young women as "little girl" the way the first line of this song goes? Or do you think it was just a way to fit the rhyme scheme and meter?
Not trying to stir things up or anything: I don't think this is some kind of "Hey Little Tomboy" creepy thing. But it just struck me yesterday--for the first time ever in my 20+ years knowing this song--as a strange thing to say. "Hi, little girl, it's me..." If we assume the characters are teenagers, I can't imagine a teenage girl being complimented by that. And among older people it's even stranger.
Was it just common slang?
I was "around" but not old enough to notice or relate to the term. I'm guessing it was a popular term, especially in movies, music, and some parts of society. However, like many things, through the years it was considered offensive and outdated. I look forward to the day "Bae" is considered offensive and outdated. That'll probably happen when Mike Love uses it for a lyric.
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Post by Kapitan on Apr 27, 2021 12:54:48 GMT
I was just thinking of other examples of really funny old slang. "Daddy." That's the worst. I can't imagine ever calling anyone daddy.
Not even my father.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Apr 27, 2021 18:27:59 GMT
Dick Clark brought it to life...I love this stuff, these period pieces. You know, we THINK a lot about what The Beach Boys' and Brian Wilson's audience was like back in the day, but it's also nice to see it.
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Post by lonelysummer on Apr 28, 2021 2:04:06 GMT
OMG, Barbara Ann is a song I loathed from the first time I heard it - and after 10,000,000 plays on oldies radio, my feelings haven't changed about it! I really wish Crapitol hadn't released this single - it did not represent where the Beach Boys music was in 1965/66. Girl Don't Tell Me is a personal favorite. I love anything Carl sings. The lyrics remind me of a girl I used to see every summer. I was so infatuated with her. One summer while she was up here, we got to spend a lot of time with her, get close; then the next summer, she had eyes for some other guy. I need to record a version of this song. I still have not gotten over that girl! Don't know what rating I'm going to give this one. Maybe a 6 - for the b side!
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on May 1, 2021 14:24:23 GMT
...and, our guys in 2012...
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Post by jk on May 1, 2021 17:46:46 GMT
I have an honest question for those of you who were conscious in the mid 60s (or at least soon thereafter): was it common to call or refer to girls/young women as "little girl" the way the first line of this song goes? Or do you think it was just a way to fit the rhyme scheme and meter?
Being conscious (or something resembling it) in the mid '60s, I remember it being all over song lyrics and titles of those years. It was a term of endearment, not belittlement -- nothing negative or "sexist" about it at all.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on May 1, 2021 18:27:06 GMT
One of my favorite garage rock songs from the 60's, from the California-based Syndicate Of Sound, "Little Girl":
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Post by Kapitan on May 1, 2021 20:43:04 GMT
Of no particular value but yet something I can't avoid entirely, I must say: I have never heard "Barbara Ann" as "Barbara Ann." The song was ingrained into my mind as "Bobber Ann." And thus is shall remain forevermore.
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Post by kds on May 1, 2021 20:58:59 GMT
Of no particular value but yet something I can't avoid entirely, I must say: I have never heard "Barbara Ann" as "Barbara Ann." The song was ingrained into my mind as "Bobber Ann." And thus is shall remain forevermore. That's how I heard it as a kid. Right there with Little Do Scoop.
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Post by jk on May 1, 2021 21:56:59 GMT
One of my favorite garage rock songs from the 60's, from the California-based Syndicate Of Sound, "Little Girl":
Ha! That great song was my first choice too, along with The Fourmost's "Hello Little Girl":
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Post by B.E. on May 2, 2021 0:08:36 GMT
I'm bumping my own post!
This is an excellent version of "Girl Don't Tell Me". It addresses two issues that were brought up in this thread. They came up with a short but effective intro, and, when Jeff Foskett doubles Brian (to assist in hitting some notes), he, in effect, is adding harmony at another effective point. Brian appears to be into it, and I'm slightly surprised the song didn't stay in the setlist (longer?).
Thanks for posting. It's amazing, to me, how much of a difference that short, simple intro makes! Despite what I've said in this thread about "Girl Don't Tell Me", I would have been thrilled to be in that audience. I wouldn't have expected to hear it, and that was a relatively strong performance for Brian during that period. As you said, he seemed into it, and in good spirits. Not to mention, it's interesting to hear him sing it (even so many years later).
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Post by Kapitan on May 2, 2021 11:53:17 GMT
Last day to vote on this week's single. If you haven't yet cast your ballot, please do.
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