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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Apr 6, 2021 19:48:32 GMT
Actually, the whole video is worth viewing. It must be hard for musicians like Don who played literally thousands of sessions in their careers to remember certain details, while other details/memories might be crystal clear. Don Randi is 84 years old now. There's not many Wrecking Crew members still with us.
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Post by Kapitan on Apr 6, 2021 19:53:17 GMT
Actually, the whole video is worth viewing. I agree 100%! I mentioned it a little more in the "Interviews" thread where I posted, but he not only talks about Brian Wilson in several parts of the interview (early, middle, and late parts of the interview, totally separate from one another), but also about his other work over the years.
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Post by jk on Apr 6, 2021 21:56:57 GMT
To my mind, "Help Me, Ronda" has aged more gracefully that the version with an additional h. And I shall forever see "Kiss Me, Baby" in the blissed-out context of side two of Today! I'm curious if there's something specific you can point to about Ronda (or Rhonda) that you think has aged well (or hasn't aged well). I've found the bass riffs on "HMRh" tend to sound jarring these days, certainly now that I'm better acquainted with the more lush h-less original. Interestingly, at the end of the instrumental break on the 45 version Mike sings "ba ba ba ba" on the dominant before it arrives, whereas on "Ronda" it's the bass guitar that performs that duty.
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Post by kds on Apr 7, 2021 12:23:30 GMT
I do like the guitar intro on Ronda a little more than the vocal opening of the Rhonda version, and they typically open the song that way in concert.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Apr 7, 2021 12:45:36 GMT
I think both R(h)onda's have merit. I know it's usually the lesser-preferred version, and I also prefer the single version, but there's a lot I like about the Today! version. I like the intro, the harmonica, the bass, and the fade (though I'm not crazy about the volume coming in and out). It has been said that the "wrong" version was used on Endless Summer, but I wonder if the person who chose the version(s) really did like the Today! version better. Same with "Be True To Your School".
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Post by kds on Apr 7, 2021 13:07:26 GMT
I think both R(h)onda's have merit. I know it's usually the lesser-preferred version, and I also prefer the single version, but there's a lot I like about the Today! version. I like the intro, the harmonica, the bass, and the fade (though I'm not crazy about the volume coming in and out). It has been said that the "wrong" version was used on Endless Summer, but I wonder if the person who chose the version(s) really did like the Today! version better. Same with "Be True To Your School". The volume fading in and out if really the only part of the Ronda version I don't much care for. Otherwise, it's fine enough on its own.
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Post by lonelysummer on Apr 9, 2021 3:31:59 GMT
The volume fade out / fade in was ahead of it's time. Later on, several hit songs used that gimmick; Suspicious Minds by Elvis Presley; Hello Goodbye by the Beatles; Let Me by Paul Revere and the Raiders featuring Mark Lindsay; there's probably a few others I could think of.
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Post by Kapitan on Apr 9, 2021 11:36:15 GMT
I hate the fade out, fade in.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Apr 9, 2021 11:52:37 GMT
The volume fade out / fade in was ahead of it's time. Later on, several hit songs used that gimmick; Suspicious Minds by Elvis Presley; Hello Goodbye by the Beatles; Let Me by Paul Revere and the Raiders featuring Mark Lindsay; there's probably a few others I could think of. "Loop de Loop" is another one. Does "Hello Goodbye" really employ that gimmick? I think one of the reasons the fading in and out on "Ronda" is not as successful is because of the length of the fade. It's not long enough, it sounds rushed, and I think Brian was conscious of the length of his songs at that time.
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Post by kds on Apr 9, 2021 13:13:15 GMT
The volume fade out / fade in was ahead of it's time. Later on, several hit songs used that gimmick; Suspicious Minds by Elvis Presley; Hello Goodbye by the Beatles; Let Me by Paul Revere and the Raiders featuring Mark Lindsay; there's probably a few others I could think of. Hello Goodbye?
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Post by Kapitan on Apr 12, 2021 11:28:40 GMT
Ten voters rated "Help Me Rhonda" backed with "Kiss Me Baby" an average score of 9.7.
I'll update the ratings thread and launch a new poll shortly. Thanks for the discussion and participation.
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