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Post by kds on Feb 22, 2021 13:53:10 GMT
I heard about this on the radio this morning, but here's a data driven list of the 21 most hated rock bands of all time. bestlifeonline.com/most-hated-rock-band-news/I do dislike the vast majority of the bands on the list, and of the ones I enjoy, I can see why they're hated by some, and that's fine. But, the two that really jumped out a bit to me where Mumford & Sons and The Spin Doctors. Are either of these groups really prominent enough to generate so much hate? Especially M&S at #5? The Spin Doctors surprised me as I've pretty much not heard much of them since around 1994, other than hearing Two Princes once in a blue moon.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Feb 22, 2021 14:03:46 GMT
My biggest surprise was Bob Dylan. Is his voice that...off-putting? The guy hardly ever says anything these days, and the only people who buy his albums are his legions of fans - who obviously don't hate him. Maybe there were enough people who attended one of his concerts on a whim and were disappointed by his non-hits setlist.
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Post by Kapitan on Feb 22, 2021 14:05:41 GMT
It's funny how many of those "most hated" bands would almost certainly also end up on a list of "greatest bands." Bob Dylan, the Doors, Radiohead, and U2 at the very least, but probably also Metallica, Pearl Jam, and Rush, and arguably others such as KISS.
As for Mumford & Sons, that seems like a very specific hatred that doesn't age well. At their peak of popularity--what, maybe five years ago? Times flies, idk...--I know there was a big backlash about "vest-rock" or whatever. And it was kind of annoying, this faux-Americana thing. But it does seem like they're the kind of band that in another 10 years, almost nobody will remember who they were ... sort of like the Spin Doctors!
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Post by kds on Feb 22, 2021 14:18:55 GMT
My biggest surprise was Bob Dylan. Is his voice that...off-putting? The guy hardly ever says anything these days, and the only people who buy his albums are his legions of fans - who obviously don't hate him. Maybe there were enough people who attended one of his concerts on a whim and were disappointed by his non-hits setlist. As a guy who really doesn't care for his music, I'd say yes. I also think that's why Rush is on the list.
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Post by kds on Feb 22, 2021 14:21:18 GMT
It's funny how many of those "most hated" bands would almost certainly also end up on a list of "greatest bands." Bob Dylan, the Doors, Radiohead, and U2 at the very least, but probably also Metallica, Pearl Jam, and Rush, and arguably others such as KISS.
As for Mumford & Sons, that seems like a very specific hatred that doesn't age well. At their peak of popularity--what, maybe five years ago? Times flies, idk...--I know there was a big backlash about "vest-rock" or whatever. And it was kind of annoying, this faux-Americana thing. But it does seem like they're the kind of band that in another 10 years, almost nobody will remember who they were ... sort of like the Spin Doctors!
I think it was Nikki Sixx who said something along the lines of "you need beards and banjos to be popular these days" at some point in the mid 10s, as it did seem like there was a wave of bands like Mumford and Sons. The hipsters ate it up with a fork and spoon, but that movement didn't seem to have legs.
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Post by Kapitan on Feb 22, 2021 14:24:47 GMT
I think that's because there was a disconnect between people who actually really like Americana, folk, etc., and people who wore it like a "vintage" (e.g. thrift store, but overpriced) vest...
Nothing turns off fans of things quite like sudden, broad acceptance--especially when you know it's not actual fandom, but just a little trend, the musical equivalent of kale or quinoa. And actual fans of actual roots music didn't take especially kindly to Brooklynites with their little beards and flannels or vests pretending to be authentic because it's in style.
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Post by kds on Feb 22, 2021 15:23:09 GMT
I think that's because there was a disconnect between people who actually really like Americana, folk, etc., and people who wore it like a "vintage" (e.g. thrift store, but overpriced) vest...
Nothing turns off fans of things quite like sudden, broad acceptance--especially when you know it's not actual fandom, but just a little trend, the musical equivalent of kale or quinoa. And actual fans of actual roots music didn't take especially kindly to Brooklynites with their little beards and flannels or vests pretending to be authentic because it's in style.
That's the funny thing about hipsters though. For as pretentious as they can be, authenticity isn't really their thing.
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Post by Kapitan on Feb 22, 2021 15:27:42 GMT
It's quite literally the opposite of their thing, since their thing is trying on new fads and fashions ASAP (gotta beat the crowd).
But of course, the magic in it all is their ability to pretend that by jumping on bandwagons faster than Joe Public, somehow their adoptions are authentic, while the normies are just following the herd.
This would make sense if a person had that experience once or twice in his life: to coincidentally have the fashion follow your authentic taste. But every few months, with every new trend? Nah, you're just faster at identifying and attaching yourself to trends, that's all.
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Post by kds on Feb 22, 2021 15:38:33 GMT
It's quite literally the opposite of their thing, since their thing is trying on new fads and fashions ASAP (gotta beat the crowd).
But of course, the magic in it all is their ability to pretend that by jumping on bandwagons faster than Joe Public, somehow their adoptions are authentic, while the normies are just following the herd.
This would make sense if a person had that experience once or twice in his life: to coincidentally have the fashion follow your authentic taste. But every few months, with every new trend? Nah, you're just faster at identifying and attaching yourself to trends, that's all.
Exactly.
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Post by jk on Feb 22, 2021 18:33:31 GMT
What a curious affair. The phrase "Get a life!" comes readily to mind...
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Post by kds on Feb 22, 2021 19:13:36 GMT
I was actually surprised that there were no AOR bands or 80s glam metal bands on this list. Critics mostly despised those bands, and many music fans are outspoken on their hatred.
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Post by B.E. on Feb 23, 2021 0:45:36 GMT
My biggest surprise was Bob Dylan. Is his voice that...off-putting? The guy hardly ever says anything these days, and the only people who buy his albums are his legions of fans - who obviously don't hate him. Maybe there were enough people who attended one of his concerts on a whim and were disappointed by his non-hits setlist. As a guy who really doesn't care for his music, I'd say yes. I also think that's why Rush is on the list. Yeah, but do you "hate" Dylan? I understand that many people don't like his voice but I never took that for hating him like people do Creed, Nickelback, Limp Bizkit, etc. The only thing I can think of is folk fans feeling betrayed when he went electric and the predictable backlash to his "born again" phase. Neither come close to competing with the praise he has always received. I also didn't realize The Doors were a hated group. Most of the rest of the list I understand. (Though, admittedly, I'd never heard of Spin Doctors before.)
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Post by kds on Feb 23, 2021 13:18:14 GMT
As a guy who really doesn't care for his music, I'd say yes. I also think that's why Rush is on the list. Yeah, but do you "hate" Dylan? I understand that many people don't like his voice but I never took that for hating him like people do Creed, Nickelback, Limp Bizkit, etc. The only thing I can think of is folk fans feeling betrayed when he went electric and the predictable backlash to his "born again" phase. Neither come close to competing with the praise he has always received. I also didn't realize The Doors were a hated group. Most of the rest of the list I understand. (Though, admittedly, I'd never heard of Spin Doctors before.) I don't really hate him (I do hate his voice), but I can understand why he'd be a hated artist. I also think that the fanbases can be a factor too. Now, I don't really see it among the Dylan fans here, but Dylan fans can be a little holier than thou. I think the same goes for Rush fans, who think their Rush fandom makes them some sort of otherwordly intellectual (I say that as a Rush fan, and have had run ins with several of these guys).
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Post by Kapitan on Feb 23, 2021 13:31:30 GMT
(Though, admittedly, I'd never heard of Spin Doctors before.) Funny, but I would guess you're just a bit too young. Along the lines of the Mumford & Sons mini-moment we were mocking above, the Spin Doctors had a moment in the early '90s.
Around the time "alternative" became a thing, they were among the groups that had a bit more of a jam-band or hippie vibe than did the grunge bands (along with Blues Traveler, Counting Crows, etc.). Their debut album was everywhere for a while: looking back, I see it peaked at #3 on the Billboard chart; they also had two Top 20 singles (and three Top 10 singles on the Billboard Mainstream Rock chart). MTV had them in heavy rotation, too.
Then they were gone. Not literally: I think they kept making music. But nobody cared.
I would think the only grounds people could have for HATING them would be that they were over-exposed during their brief moment in the sun.
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Post by kds on Feb 23, 2021 13:36:59 GMT
(Though, admittedly, I'd never heard of Spin Doctors before.) Funny, but I would guess you're just a bit too young. Along the lines of the Mumford & Sons mini-moment we were mocking above, the Spin Doctors had a moment in the early '90s.
Around the time "alternative" became a thing, they were among the groups that had a bit more of a jam-band or hippie vibe than did the grunge bands (along with Blues Traveler, Counting Crows, etc.). Their debut album was everywhere for a while: looking back, I see it peaked at #3 on the Billboard chart; they also had two Top 20 singles (and three Top 10 singles on the Billboard Mainstream Rock chart). MTV had them in heavy rotation, too.
Then they were gone. Not literally: I think they kept making music. But nobody cared.
I would think the only grounds people could have for HATING them would be that they were over-exposed during their brief moment in the sun.
Thanks for their inclusion on this list, which has been making its rounds on the internet, this is probably the most people have talked about The Spin Doctors since Bill Clinton's first term. I actually liked their song "Two Princes" for a brief period in 8th grade.
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