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Post by jk on Jun 5, 2020 12:34:50 GMT
There's a BB connection but it's not about the Boys--sort of having one's cake and eating it too. Buddy Holly recorded several versions of Little Richard's "Slippin' And Slidin'", including more than one at snail's pace. I was informed at Hoffman that this was to play it back at twice the speed for a "Chipmunk" vocal. H'mm. The overdubs by The Fireballs on this, my favourite of all the versions [since removed], must date from the early '60s ( here). It was the B-side of "Brown-Eyed Handsome Man".
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Post by bellbottoms on Jun 5, 2020 13:57:38 GMT
The Everly Brothers - 'Til I Kissed You
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Jun 5, 2020 14:05:13 GMT
And, this song is appropriate this time of year:
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Post by lonelysummer on Jun 6, 2020 0:44:23 GMT
The title of the thread had me thinking non-rock pop music pre-Beach Boys. But basically, ya'll are speaking my language here. Keep it going!
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Post by jk on Jun 6, 2020 8:22:11 GMT
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Post by jk on Jun 6, 2020 8:23:34 GMT
The title of the thread had me thinking non-rock pop music pre-Beach Boys. But basically, ya'll are speaking my language here. Keep it going! How about a musical contribution, LS? It would be greatly appreciated!
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Jun 6, 2020 12:09:29 GMT
Just before The Beach Boys hit, there were a number of post-Elvis/Chuck Berry/Little Richard/Jerry Lee Lewis "teen idols" which included Frankie Avalon (pre-Beach Party movies), Paul Anka, Ricky Nelson, Bobby Vee, Fabian Forte', James Darren, and Bobby Rydell. Because of their clean-cut image, and because they didn't "rock" like their predecessors, they sometimes get a bad rap, but they were all talented singers and entertainers.
Bobby Rydell, born Robert Ridarelli, was from an Italian family in Philadelphia. Most of Bobby's hit records like "Wild One", "Volare", and "Swingin' School" came in the early 1960's, but starting in 1963, Bobby started to bring the West Coast lifestyle, popularized by groups like The Beach Boys, over to the East Coast. Bobby released his own fun/summer songs like "Steel Pier" and "Wildwood Days".
"Wild One" was Bobby's biggest hit. Great sax. Yeah Yeah! Wild one, be wild about me...
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Post by jk on Jun 6, 2020 14:18:31 GMT
Bobby Rydell, born Robert Ridarelli, was from an Italian family in Philadelphia. Most of Bobby's hit records like "Wild One", "Volare", and "Swingin' School" came in the early 1960's, but starting in 1963, Bobby started to bring the West Coast lifestyle, popularized by groups like The Beach Boys, over to the East Coast. Bobby released his own fun/summer songs like "Steel Pier" and "Wildwood Days".
I remember "Volare" and "Sway". Yes, Frankie Avalon and Fabian in particular were treated in the UK at the time as pretty boys who couldn't sing! Ricky Nelson and Bobby Vee were highly rated and had huge hits this side of the Atlantic. The very early sixties produced some pretty strange 45s. Arguably the strangest (a US #2 in 1961) was "The Mountain's High" by Dick and Dee Dee. Dick sang the lowest and highest of the four voices and Dee Dee the two middle ones. It sounds most unsettling! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mountain%27s_High
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Jun 7, 2020 12:55:55 GMT
In 1960, Ernest Evans - renamed Chubby Checker after Fats Domino - released "The Twist":
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Post by jk on Jun 7, 2020 13:21:46 GMT
In 1960, Ernest Evans - renamed Chubby Checker after Fats Domino - released "The Twist": Nice! I never did like "Let's Twist Again" but this one was great. My favourite of Chubby's is "The Fly"--another dance, of course. One twist record I (or was it my brother?) bought at the time was "Peppermint Twist" by Joey Dee & the Starliters. A great double-sider at the time, here it is in a single chunk: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joey_Dee_and_the_Starliters
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Post by jk on Jun 8, 2020 10:24:49 GMT
This is (Gary) U.S. Bonds' greatest claim to fame. "Quarter To Three" (1961) surely has the most messy start to any US #1!!
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Jun 8, 2020 12:11:25 GMT
Bobby Darin was kind of a teen idol, but he was more of a Frank Sinatra-type singer/performer, and he transcended a broader audience than just teenagers. Bobby was on quite a roll in the late 1950's/early 1960's. This was his biggest hit, covered by many:
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Post by jk on Jun 8, 2020 12:37:31 GMT
Bobby Darin was kind of a teen idol, but he was more of a Frank Sinatra-type singer/performer, and he transcended a broader audience than just teenagers. Bobby was on quite a roll in the late 1950's/early 1960's. This was his biggest hit, covered by many:
Great to see him getting a mention. Not sure I'd agree with the Frankie comparison though. Bobby did much more, including some fantastic drumming (see below). This was the man who recorded "Splish Splash", "Beyond The Sea", "Nature Boy", "Lazy River", "You Must Have Been A Beautiful Baby", "Things", "You're The Reason I'm Living", "If I Were A Carpenter"... talk about ringing the changes!! I don't think Old Blue Eyes can compete with that. What a talent!
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Post by lonelysummer on Jun 9, 2020 2:16:06 GMT
Honestly, I never cared much for the teen idol brand of pop or rock and roll. Frankie Avalon seems like a very nice gentleman, but I never bought any of his records. Watched the beach party movies when they were on tv when there wasn't anything else watching. Fabian never had much of a voice; and the Bobby's - Rydell, Vinton, Darin, Vee; it all seemed very bland to me. I paid a little more attention to Paul Anka, because he was a songwriter. I wouldn't lump Ricky Nelson in with those guys because he was much closer to rockabilly. There was the first wave of rockers in 55-56 - Gene Vincent, Elvis, Carl Perkins, Chuck, Richard, Bo, Fats; then a second wave appeared in 57 - Buddy, Jerry Lee, Eddie Cochran, the Everlys. I think Ricky's records were much close to what those guys did than the teen idols from Philly. Ricky had an obvious advantage over the others, being already known as the younger son on a popular tv show. He could have cut a couple mediocre records as a gimmick and sold a couple million on name recognition alone. But I could write a book on him or the Everlys. Right now, I want to turn your attention to a New Orleans rhythm and blues artist that was known as Clarence Frogman Henry. Listen to his first hit from 1955, Ain't Got No Home, and you'll know how he acquired the name. His biggest pop hit, though, came a few years later. One day about 10 years ago I was shopping at Goodwill, and the in house music kept playing this song over and over. I asked one of the cashiers, and she said something had gone wrong with the satellite feed. I must have heard the song 5 or 6 times in the space of an hour. Enough that it stayed with me. I had no idea who the singer was, but several years later, I finally heard it on an oldies station with the - gasp - announcement of who it was (radio stations generally don't tell you what you're playing these days). I immediately looked it up on you tube, and there it was. "I Don't Know Why I Love You But I Do". If you like Fats Domino, you'll like this one. As far as I can tell, he had only one more pop hit - with, coincidentally, a standard that Fats had already covered, "You Always Hurt the One You Love" (although I think my favorite version is still the one by Spike Jones). The Frogman is still alive in 2020. Here's to you, Clarence.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Jun 9, 2020 14:13:39 GMT
How about this one from Clarence "Frogman" Henry - "Ain't Got No Home" from 1956. The song was covered by Buddy Holly, The Band, and The New York Dolls!
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