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Post by Kapitan on Apr 28, 2021 15:36:35 GMT
Nice! I'm hoping for a similar scenario in just under two weeks.
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Post by kds on Apr 28, 2021 15:44:49 GMT
I've heard that side effects can occur up to 24 hours later, so I'm not sure I'm out of the woods yet.
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Post by Kapitan on Apr 28, 2021 16:19:10 GMT
Most people I've heard from say it hit them either during the night after, or pretty early the following day. Obviously I'm no doctor and I'm not looking at data, just personal anecdotes. But it's got to be a good sign for you.
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Post by kds on Apr 29, 2021 12:38:52 GMT
Well, I'm into the next day, and so far, nothing. I had a general blah / fatigue feeling yesterday, that seems to have subsided. I'm going to continue to double up on water and Gatorade to be safe. If I'm still good tomorrow night, it's bourbon time.
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Post by Kapitan on May 6, 2021 17:14:12 GMT
Our governor announced that COVID restrictions related to businesses and public gatherings will be lifted on May 28, in advance of Memorial Day, with some going away as early as tomorrow (sizes of gatherings indoors and outdoors; bar closing times). (I'm not sure what other restrictions there are other than sizes of gatherings and bar closing times, actually...but apparently there must be some.)
Then the mask requirements will be lifted July 1, or earlier if the state reaches its 70% (of people 16+) vaccination target. (We are currently at 59% of that target group having at least one dose.)
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Post by Kapitan on May 10, 2021 14:25:25 GMT
Shot #2 is in the books. So far, so good (though it has only been about 90 minutes). First Ave gave out "concert posters" for it, which is kind of funny. (Nice quality paper, too.)
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Post by Kapitan on May 11, 2021 11:20:08 GMT
Shot #2 is in the books. So far, so good (though it has only been about 90 minutes). First Ave gave out "concert posters" for it, which is kind of funny. (Nice quality paper, too.) And just under 24 hours later, still no side effects beyond a sore arm. It hasn't really sunk in yet that I'm (almost) immune to that damn virus, but with our restrictions significantly loosened in the past few days and with many more loosenings to come in the coming 45 days or so, I'm sure I'll feel the change (in the form of confidence) more as I start doing more things.
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Post by kds on May 11, 2021 12:29:42 GMT
Shot #2 is in the books. So far, so good (though it has only been about 90 minutes). First Ave gave out "concert posters" for it, which is kind of funny. (Nice quality paper, too.) And just under 24 hours later, still no side effects beyond a sore arm. It hasn't really sunk in yet that I'm (almost) immune to that damn virus, but with our restrictions significantly loosened in the past few days and with many more loosenings to come in the coming 45 days or so, I'm sure I'll feel the change (in the form of confidence) more as I start doing more things. I would be sure to stay hydrated for the next 48 to be on the safe side. That's what I did, and didn't experience anything beyond mild fatigue. At 4:45pm EDT today, it will have been two weeks since I've had Pfizer Shot #2, so I'll be considered fully vaccinated.
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Post by Kapitan on May 11, 2021 12:40:23 GMT
I have been making a point of that, too: a lot of water, no alcohol.
One thing is for sure: as more restrictions are lifted and weather improves, I am REALLY looking forward to getting together, fully unmasked, for drinks, apps, or meals on patios. (And after July 1, even indoors.)
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on May 14, 2021 11:53:18 GMT
Well, I guess I won't have to wear my mask...as much...anymore!
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Post by Kapitan on May 14, 2021 12:00:57 GMT
Minnesota is going to announce the mask requirement lifts today, with local governments and businesses allowed to make their own decisions going forward. (Minneapolis will leave its requirement in place while it studies the issue.)
I have to say the change from the CDC and authorities generally is yet another example of poor communications and mixed signals. We've been hearing that masks are still important, even for the vaccinated, even outdoors. Wasn't it last week that the CDC released a new chart showing what is and isn't safe with and without a mask for people who are and aren't vaccinated, and it was laughable how both were mostly masked?
So in one week, we went from "even vaccinated people should wear masks outdoors if there are other people around" to "masks aren't necessary for anyone who is vaccinated, even indoors, unless in a big crowd"?
It reminds me of 14 months ago when we went from "masks actually would be counterproductive; you don't want or need masks" to "masks are essential for everyone."
If changes stem from scientific decisions made using hard data and reasonable speculation, they're good: it makes no sense to hold on to an incorrect belief. But it all too often seems the decisions are made on other factors and we aren't told the truth about things.
All that said ... I really look forward to not wearing a mask when I go for groceries, a haircut, or to the library!
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Post by kds on May 14, 2021 12:26:57 GMT
A few days ago, Maryland Governor Hogan said that he'd lift the indoor mask mandate once we've vaccinated 70% of the state's adult population, something that apparently could happen by Memorial Day Weekend.
And, despite being a big "follow the science" guy, he's sticking to that despite the CDC update yesterday.
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Post by Kapitan on May 14, 2021 12:58:07 GMT
A few days ago, Maryland Governor Hogan said that he'd lift the indoor mask mandate once we've vaccinated 70% of the state's adult population, something that apparently could happen by Memorial Day Weekend. And, despite being a big "follow the science" guy, he's sticking to that despite the CDC update yesterday. That was our plan here, too: 70%, which was looking like mid-June, and they said no later than July 1. Yet we ditched that with the CDC update.
My question now is, which way IS following the science? I've lost so much faith in CDC, I no longer even know. We're only around 50% half-vaxxed and 40% fully vaxxed here. So if 70% was a reasonable number (which makes sense to me), the change is a bad idea.
I'm going to be OK regardless, being vaccinated. But the flip-flopping throughout all this has been remarkable.
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Post by kds on May 14, 2021 13:07:19 GMT
A few days ago, Maryland Governor Hogan said that he'd lift the indoor mask mandate once we've vaccinated 70% of the state's adult population, something that apparently could happen by Memorial Day Weekend. And, despite being a big "follow the science" guy, he's sticking to that despite the CDC update yesterday. That was our plan here, too: 70%, which was looking like mid-June, and they said no later than July 1. Yet we ditched that with the CDC update.
My question now is, which way IS following the science? I've lost so much faith in CDC, I no longer even know. We're only around 50% half-vaxxed and 40% fully vaxxed here. So if 70% was a reasonable number (which makes sense to me), the change is a bad idea.
I'm going to be OK regardless, being vaccinated. But the flip-flopping throughout all this has been remarkable.
I lost faith in the CDC last year with all the nonsensical stuff regarding bars and restaurants. You have to wear a mask walking to a table, but you can be seated maskless. Indoor dining was a no no, but you're OK if the restaurant puts out a giant tent. Nothing made sense. At this point, I just want to get back to normal.
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Post by Kapitan on May 14, 2021 13:15:28 GMT
I'd like to get back to normal, too, but I don't want people to just decide "it's time to get back to normal" if circumstances don't really point in that direction. You know, like if after a few months of cancer treatment, you just decide "time to be done with this; time to get back to normal," regardless of status of the treatment. It just doesn't make sense.
My best guess is this: most of the nationwide stuff is silly because of how huge America is, and how diverse America is. States and even counties or cities should be making their own decisions, based on appropriate expert guidance. I suspect Democrats have been too restrictive and Republicans too lenient, mostly to stick it to the other.
Republicans have said the whole thing is overblown and so they've tended to avoid restrictions. Democrats see that and decide not only that precautions are important, but SERIOUS precautions: double masking! masks outside! etc. Republicans see that and decide, oh yeah? Not only no masks outside, but no distancing or masks, period! There is no virus! And so on...
It's all so stupid. People stop being guided by reason and evidence, and let themselves be guided by spite toward their version of "the bad guys."
Anyway, as I said before, being vaxxed and coming up on "full immunity" in a week or whatever, and with restrictions lifting, I'm feeling pretty good about getting back to normal, personally ... even if I'm not so sure it's a great idea for the broader unvaccinated public. But at this point, it's their own decision. I hate that some number of these people are going to get themselves (and others) infected and some subset of those will die, all unnecessarily. But that's America.
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