bellbottoms
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Dec 3, 2019 16:30:00 GMT
Post by bellbottoms on Dec 3, 2019 16:30:00 GMT
I'll be honest, I wasn't even aware that Aziz got "Me Too'ed." Unfortunately, stand up comedy is one of those things I unintentionally checked out on once life started to get busy. But, I've always been a bigger fan of scripted comedy - be it TV or movie. Although, I feel sometimes that, much like music, comedy is beginning to pass me by. I've liked a lot of comedies over the last 15-20 years, but I honestly don't feel like most of it has the rewatchability of comedies of the 70s, 80s, or even 90s. I can watch Ghostbusters, Blazing Saddles, or Uncle Buck over and over. I can't say the same for as many modern movies (although Will Ferrell had a good run for about ten years). Same goes for TV. There's a few shows I watch no, but I can't see myself willfully rewatching them 20 years from now like I do with Seinfeld, The Simpsons, or Cheers. The lone exception in this century is The Office (US). I also feel like comedy became more "edgy" around 1994 - the same year that John Candy died and Clerks was released. Coincidence? Maybe. I don't think there has been nearly as much output since then that I'd want to watch with my parents, or eventually, my son. And even when silly throwback comedies have been released, they've sunk like a stone. I remain convinced that had 1996's Jingle All the Way been released in 1986, it would routinely appear at the top of Favorite Christmas Movie Lists instead of Worst Christmas Movie Lists. And, I'm not just saying this because I saw it as a kid, and get all nostalgic when I see it, because I didn't see the movie until I was in my early 20s. Regarding comedy films, they definitely don’t make ‘em like they used to. I think it’s because TV has gotten so good with higher production values, and with actors moving more fluidly between TV and film. The theatres seem to be dominated by superhero flicks and kids’ movies rather than comedies. Also, this is a really subjective and unverifiable opinion, but it’s almost like there is a correlation between the quality of SNL cast members and the quality of Hollywood comedy films. SNL used to generate a ton of great comedians and characters, but you don’t see that anymore, at least not to the same extent. I’m not saying there aren’t any, of course. Kristin Wiig, Kate McKinnon, and Bill Hader come to mind. But they aren’t out there making comedies in that classic tradition the way the elder generations of SNL graduates did. And Bill Hader’s show, Barry, is more dark comedy/drama than “comedy comedy”. Good show though. One of the funniest comedy movies I’ve seen recently though was Good Boys, about three friends in 6th grade who end up on a school-skipping adventure.
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Dec 3, 2019 16:34:09 GMT
Post by kds on Dec 3, 2019 16:34:09 GMT
I'll be honest, I wasn't even aware that Aziz got "Me Too'ed." Unfortunately, stand up comedy is one of those things I unintentionally checked out on once life started to get busy. But, I've always been a bigger fan of scripted comedy - be it TV or movie. Although, I feel sometimes that, much like music, comedy is beginning to pass me by. I've liked a lot of comedies over the last 15-20 years, but I honestly don't feel like most of it has the rewatchability of comedies of the 70s, 80s, or even 90s. I can watch Ghostbusters, Blazing Saddles, or Uncle Buck over and over. I can't say the same for as many modern movies (although Will Ferrell had a good run for about ten years). Same goes for TV. There's a few shows I watch no, but I can't see myself willfully rewatching them 20 years from now like I do with Seinfeld, The Simpsons, or Cheers. The lone exception in this century is The Office (US). I also feel like comedy became more "edgy" around 1994 - the same year that John Candy died and Clerks was released. Coincidence? Maybe. I don't think there has been nearly as much output since then that I'd want to watch with my parents, or eventually, my son. And even when silly throwback comedies have been released, they've sunk like a stone. I remain convinced that had 1996's Jingle All the Way been released in 1986, it would routinely appear at the top of Favorite Christmas Movie Lists instead of Worst Christmas Movie Lists. And, I'm not just saying this because I saw it as a kid, and get all nostalgic when I see it, because I didn't see the movie until I was in my early 20s. Regarding comedy films, they definitely don’t make ‘em like they used to. I think it’s because TV has gotten so good with higher production values, and with actors moving more fluidly between TV and film. The theatres seem to be dominated by superhero flicks and kids’ movies rather than comedies. Also, this is a really subjective and unverifiable opinion, but it’s almost like there is a correlation between the quality of SNL cast members and the quality of Hollywood comedy films. SNL used to generate a ton of great comedians and characters, but you don’t see that anymore, at least not to the same extent. I’m not saying there aren’t any, of course. Kristin Wiig, Kate McKinnon, and Bill Hader come to mind. But they aren’t out there making comedies in that classic tradition the way the elder generations of SNL graduates did. And Bill Hader’s show, Barry, is more dark comedy/drama than “comedy comedy”. Good show though. One of the funniest comedy movies I’ve seen recently though was Good Boys, about three friends in 6th grade who end up on a school-skipping adventure. I agree 100% about the dip in quality in SNL being directly related the decline in movie comedies. I think my favorite era for comedies is probably from about the late 70s though early 90s, and a lot of the talent from that era was either from Second City or SNL. The last SNL player who I think really made a mark in Hollywood was Will Ferrell, and even he's fallen off in the last 5-6 years.
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Dec 3, 2019 18:28:59 GMT
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Post by Kapitan on Dec 3, 2019 18:28:59 GMT
General thoughts on the past few posts: An interesting thing about SNL is how different people’s opinions of it over time are. I think in the end it seems like many people believe “their era” was, which isn’t necessarily a specific age but just whenever they got into it: junior high, high school, college, or whatever. I know people who swear the initial cast, the early 80s (!), the early 90s, the late 90s, and various moments through the 00s or even 10s was “the best cast” or “the funniest era.” Honestly I haven’t watched it in 15 years other than the occasional clip, so I can’t say a lot in that time. But I remember vividly how much crap the late Carvey to immediately post-Carvey eras got, with him, David Spade, Adam Sandler, Julia Sweeney, Chris Farley, Mike Myers, Victoria Jackson, Jan Hooks, etc. used to take. It was reviled publicly. It has been praised more or less ever since. Go figure. But it seems that happens a lot. My personal favorite? Surprise surprise, it’s right in that era, roughly ’88-’94, when I was 12-18 and watched regularly. (But there is a little gold in every era, a lot of mediocrity in every era, and plenty of trash in every era.) As for comedy in general, I dunno… I don’t know that it has gotten especially dirtier. Comedy in the 70s and early 80s was profane and pretty loaded with sex and drugs references. I think of Richard Pryor, Eddie Murphy, and I’m not thinking “good, innocent fun” by any means. Comedy shows and movies? While I have a lot of love for some 70s and 80s picks, there are also some really good things from the past 20 years, in my opinion. For shows, I think both UK Office (which I love the most) and US Office, Freaks & Geeks, Arrested Development, Parks and Rec, The Increasingly Poor Decisions of Todd Margaret, Bojack Horseman, and the Marvelous Mrs. Maisel were or are all fantastic. They fit right alongside with the best of the 90s (Seinfeld and Simpsons) or the previous decades. Movies, I’ll be honest: I just don’t see as many movies the past 20 years as I used to. Stand-up is something I’ve only really gotten more interested in over the past 10-15 years or so, as more of it became more easily available at all times. I watched things like MTV Half Hour Comedy Hour as a kid, but otherwise my stand-up experience is from my adult life. So that’s hard to compare over time
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Dec 3, 2019 18:48:50 GMT
Post by kds on Dec 3, 2019 18:48:50 GMT
My favorite SNL is also the era I grew up with, that 88-94 or so cast. But, thanks to cable reruns, I also really enjoyed a lot of the 70s and early 80s casts. Not so much post 1995 (although I still watching until probably 2000 or 2001 because what else do you do on a Saturday night when you're in HS / college and don't go to parties). And, I mentioned him before, I wasn't really a huge fan of his cast, I became a big Will Ferrell fan through his movies. I tend to try out SNL once every year or so, and to be honest, I think it's terrible now. And, when I've seen the players in other material, I tend to not care for it much.
I've not really checked out too much of Freaks and Geeks, but I do like what I've seen, and much of a Judd Apatow-iverse movie wise as well (even if his movies tend to run way long). I never really got into Arrested Development or Parks and Rec. Other than Bojack, I've not heard of the last three.
I don't think comedy has gotten dirtier, since Animal House, Caddyshack, etc were all pretty dirty movies. But, I think there was room for cleaner comedy then too. Seems like cinematic comedy over the past couple decades have been dominated by hard R rated movies. I'm not seeing the PG / PG13 type movies that were far more common in the 80s and 90s.
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Dec 3, 2019 19:10:58 GMT
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Post by Kapitan on Dec 3, 2019 19:10:58 GMT
I was the same with Will Ferrell. But his Twain Award speech is gold!
I highly recommend Mrs Maisel! If you’ve got Amazon Prime, that’s where you’ll find it. Hilarious ensemble cast set in the late 50s or early 60s about a Jewish New York housewife and mother who takes up stand-up comedy (and all the associated family dynamics). Season 3 goes up any day now. It’s really, really funny!
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Dec 3, 2019 19:27:48 GMT
Post by kds on Dec 3, 2019 19:27:48 GMT
Even though I tend to prefer comedies from the 70s, 80s, and 90s, Will Ferrell had a run of movies from about 2003-2012 that's an impressive a run of movies of any of the prior greats.
You know what else has fallen by the wayside when it comes to comedies? Parody movies. Mel Brooks and the Zucker Brothers had that down to an art in the 70s, 80s, and 90s. But, in the 2000s, we've gotten crap like Epic Movie, Date Movie, and Meet the Spartans.
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Dec 3, 2019 19:31:49 GMT
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Post by Kapitan on Dec 3, 2019 19:31:49 GMT
Totally agree on both counts.
My brother said he just introduced his kids (12 and 10) to Spaceballs. I started laughing just at the thought of seeing it for the first time!
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Dec 3, 2019 19:55:08 GMT
Post by kds on Dec 3, 2019 19:55:08 GMT
I've not seen anything official, but I heard Rick Moranis might be coming out of retirement to reprise his role in the upcoming Ghostbusters movie. I usually don't get my hopes up about these franchise reboots / revivals, but I'm cautiously optimistic about this one.
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Dec 3, 2019 20:15:20 GMT
Post by B.E. on Dec 3, 2019 20:15:20 GMT
I highly recommend Mrs Maisel! If you’ve got Amazon Prime, that’s where you’ll find it. Hilarious ensemble cast set in the late 50s or early 60s about a Jewish New York housewife and mother who takes up stand-up comedy (and all the associated family dynamics). Season 3 goes up any day now. It’s really, really funny! I haven't watched it, but I'm aware that Tony Shalhoub is part of the cast. I loved him as Adrian Monk. I've got the entire series of Monk on DVD and have probably watched it about 5 times through by now. Every few years I either dust off the DVDs or I watch it on a streaming service. I even read a couple books that are set after the TV show ends.
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Dec 3, 2019 20:19:06 GMT
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Post by Kapitan on Dec 3, 2019 20:19:06 GMT
He and Kevin Pollak are Mrs Maisel’s father and step-father. Both are great.
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Dec 3, 2019 20:38:42 GMT
Post by B.E. on Dec 3, 2019 20:38:42 GMT
I remain convinced that had 1996's Jingle All the Way been released in 1986, it would routinely appear at the top of Favorite Christmas Movie Lists instead of Worst Christmas Movie Lists. And, I'm not just saying this because I saw it as a kid, and get all nostalgic when I see it, because I didn't see the movie until I was in my early 20s. I probably watch it every other year or so. I like to put it on while decorating the tree. My eyes aren't glued to the screen, but I can still hear the jokes and follow along with the story. I guess it helps that I like Arnold, but 'Worst Christmas Movie Lists'? Heck no!
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Dec 3, 2019 20:48:54 GMT
Post by kds on Dec 3, 2019 20:48:54 GMT
I remain convinced that had 1996's Jingle All the Way been released in 1986, it would routinely appear at the top of Favorite Christmas Movie Lists instead of Worst Christmas Movie Lists. And, I'm not just saying this because I saw it as a kid, and get all nostalgic when I see it, because I didn't see the movie until I was in my early 20s. I probably watch it every other year or so. I like to put it on while decorating the tree. My eyes aren't glued to the screen, but I can still hear the jokes and follow along with the story. I guess it helps that I like Arnold, but 'Worst Christmas Movie Lists'? Heck no! I always see it on those lists, but I've never found the movie to be any less than enjoyable. It's a lighthearted slapstick family Christmas comedy. But, it just happened to be released in a more cynical time.
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Dec 7, 2019 16:28:29 GMT
Post by Sheriff John Stone on Dec 7, 2019 16:28:29 GMT
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Dec 8, 2019 16:28:57 GMT
Post by Kapitan on Dec 8, 2019 16:28:57 GMT
This is almost 10 years old but I just stumbled across it. I love these two!
A recreation of the classic:
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Dec 9, 2019 12:19:02 GMT
Post by jk on Dec 9, 2019 12:19:02 GMT
Here are some jokes by the late British comedian Tommy Cooper:
1. Two blondes walk into a building ....... you'd think at least one of them would have seen it.
2. Phone answering machine message - '...If you want to buy marijuana, press the hash key...'
3. A guy walks into the psychiatrist wearing only Clingfilm for shorts. The shrink says, 'Well, I can clearly see you're nuts.'
4. I went to buy some camouflage trousers the other day but I couldn't find any.
5. I went to the butchers the other day and I bet him 50 quid that he couldn't reach the meat off the top shelf. He said, 'No, the steaks are too high.'
6. My friend drowned in a bowl of muesli. A strong currant pulled him in.
7 . A man came round in hospital after a serious accident. He shouted, 'Doctor, doctor, I can't feel my legs!' The doctor replied, 'I know you can't, I've cut your arms off'.
8. I went to a seafood disco last week and pulled a muscle.
9. Two Eskimos sitting in a kayak were chilly. They lit a fire in the craft, it sank, proving once and for all that you can't have your kayak and heat it.
10. Our ice cream man was found lying on the floor of his van covered with hundreds and thousands. Police say that he topped himself.
11. Man goes to the doctor, with a strawberry growing out of his head. Doc says 'I'll give you some cream to put on it.'
12. 'Doc I can't stop singing 'The Green, Green Grass of Home'. 'That sounds like Tom Jones syndrome.' 'Is it common?' 'It's not unusual.'
13. A man takes his Rottweiller to the vet. 'My dog is cross-eyed, is there anything you can do for him?' 'Well,' said the vet, 'let's have a look at him'. So he picks the dog up and examines his eyes, then he checks his teeth. Finally, he says, 'I'm going to have to put him down.' 'What? Because he's cross-eyed?' 'No, because he's really heavy'.
14. What do you call a fish with no eyes? A fsh.
15. So I was getting into my car, and this bloke says to me 'Can you give me a lift?' I said 'Sure, you look great, the world's your oyster, go for it.'
16. Apparently, 1 in 5 people in the world are Chinese. There are 5 people in my family, so it must be one of them. It's either my mum or my Dad, or my older brother Colin, or my younger brother Ho-Cha-Chu. But I think it's Colin.
17. Two fat blokes in a pub, one says to the other 'Your round.' The other one says 'So are you, you fat bastard!'
18. Police arrested two kids yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, and the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off.
19. 'You know, somebody actually complimented me on my driving today. They left a little note on the windscreen. It said, "Parking Fine". So that was nice.'
20. A man walked into the doctors, he said, 'I've hurt my arm in several places'. The doctor said, 'Well don't go there anymore!'
21. Ireland's worst air disaster occurred early this morning when a small two-seater Cessna plane crashed into a cemetery. Irish search and rescue workers have recovered 2826 bodies so far and expect that number to climb as digging continues into the night.
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