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Post by B.E. on Aug 5, 2020 14:45:55 GMT
I'm guessing you guys aren't crazy enough to listen to their experimental albums? Well, once a decade I get that crazy. George's Wonderwall Music actually has a few enjoyable moments. Check this out: could have been a killer white album track if further developed.
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Post by kds on Aug 5, 2020 15:13:17 GMT
That's not bad. I've heard some of Paul's Fireman material. It's interesting.
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Post by Kapitan on Aug 5, 2020 15:21:53 GMT
That's not bad. I've heard some of Paul's Fireman material. It's interesting. I liked Paul's 2008 Fireman album, Electric Arguments, more than a lot of his new "proper" music of that period. It didn't feel especially experimental (as is my impression of most "experimental" music), but it was cool.
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Post by kds on Aug 5, 2020 15:32:15 GMT
That's not bad. I've heard some of Paul's Fireman material. It's interesting. I liked Paul's 2008 Fireman album, Electric Arguments, more than a lot of his new "proper" music of that period. It didn't feel especially experimental (as is my impression of most "experimental" music), but it was cool. I've only heard one song off that album, and it was a song called "Sing the Changes" that he played live when I saw him in 2009. I will say that song was better than anything on his Memory Almost Full album. But, there was a Fireman album released in the late 90s called Rushes (thanks Wikipedia), that was mostly experimental / soundscape type music.
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Post by B.E. on Aug 5, 2020 15:34:22 GMT
Yeah, I think Electric Arguments is the exception. His 3 prior collaborations with Youth (aka Martin Glover) were more "experimental" (i.e. sound collages, ambient techno, etc.). That said, I haven't heard them myself. Ah, KDS has beat me to it.
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Post by kds on Aug 5, 2020 15:40:24 GMT
I had a good friend growing up who was a major Paul-ista. He even thought the Off the Ground album was amazing. I remember going over his house one day to hang out, and he was playing that Rushes about. I thought it was some new age stuff, but he said "this is new Paul McCartney."
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Post by B.E. on Aug 5, 2020 15:41:13 GMT
Paul's done all kinds of stuff. In addition to the experimental albums, a bunch of classical albums, soundtrack albums, instrumental versions of his own studio albums (Thrillington). I haven't heard a lot of it.
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Post by B.E. on Aug 5, 2020 15:46:19 GMT
I had a good friend growing up who was a major Paul-ista. He even thought the Off the Ground album was amazing. I remember going over his house one day to hang out, and he was playing that Rushes about. I thought it was some new age stuff, but he said "this is new Paul McCartney." As far as I can tell, Paul didn't publicize a lot of these projects. It was mostly anonymous. But, the diehards knew it was him. So, whether they were into it or not, it was probably fun to be "in the know" and spring it on people such as yourself.
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Post by kds on Aug 5, 2020 15:47:27 GMT
Paul's done all kinds of stuff. In addition to the experimental albums, a bunch of classical albums, soundtrack albums, instrumental versions of his own studio albums ( Thrillington). I haven't heard a lot of it. More power to him for staying creative and getting outside of his comfort zone a bit. I do respect that, even though in general, I have really no interest when artists release classical, opera, instrumental, or experimental albums.
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Post by kds on Aug 5, 2020 16:13:07 GMT
I had a good friend growing up who was a major Paul-ista. He even thought the Off the Ground album was amazing. I remember going over his house one day to hang out, and he was playing that Rushes about. I thought it was some new age stuff, but he said "this is new Paul McCartney." As far as I can tell, Paul didn't publicize a lot of these projects. It was mostly anonymous. But, the diehards knew it was him. So, whether they were into it or not, it was probably fun to be "in the know" and spring it on people such as yourself. Maybe so, especially since the internet was still fairly new at the time.
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Post by Kapitan on Aug 26, 2020 15:50:33 GMT
A new John Lennon box set has been announced: Gimme Some Truth will be released in early October. While the songs are all apparently remixed, I don't believe there are any new/unreleased songs.
Here's the newly mixed "Instant Karma! (We All Shine On)."
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Post by B.E. on Aug 26, 2020 16:46:48 GMT
That mix sounds very good. I read that the same people who worked on the 'ultimate mixes' of the Imagine box set also worked on this. If interested, there's a lot of info here: www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/john-lennon-gimme-some-truth-the-ultimate-mixes-301118776.html?ocid=uxbndlbingI'm looking forward to streaming this set. Individual mixes could become preferred versions. And the listening experience of remixing and remastering a career-spanning set, in its entirety, could be quite interesting. That said, I doubt I'll purchase a physical copy. The news of this also makes me worried that we aren't going to get a 50th anniversary box set of Plastic Ono Band, which has been rumored to exist, and which is FAR more enticing! The track selection and sequence (largely, but not strictly, chronological) seems pretty darn good. Odd/interesting choices include: 1) "Come Together (live)", the only live track, presumably from the 1972 One to One concert 2) "Angela", the only song included from Some Time In New York City 3) "Every Man Has A Woman Who Loves Him" 4) "Angel Baby" - I love this inclusion. For the 1CD version, it's a little odd that "Come Together (live) makes the cut, the only Plastic Ono Band song is "Isolation", and Double Fantasy might be overrepresented at 4 songs. I can see how some fans think Yoko prioritizes certain stuff over others. There's always a lot of Double Fantasy on John's compilations, for instance, but frankly it's hard to argue against that, I think. But other choices are easier to question, like, why include "Bless You" from Walls and Bridges over a song like "Nobody Loves You (When You're Down And Out)"? Why include both "Oh Yoko" and "Dear Yoko" on the 2CD set, other than for symmetry? Or why include "Angela" at all? The article states, though, that these songs were handpicked by Yoko and Sean. I appreciate that. (And, for the record, I like "Bless You", "Dear Yoko", and "Angela" just fine.)
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Post by B.E. on Aug 26, 2020 17:05:00 GMT
Oh, and at least they bothered to use a nice, less-familiar photo for the cover.
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Post by B.E. on Aug 26, 2020 17:17:32 GMT
A new John Lennon box set has been announced: Gimme Some Truth will be released in early October. I'm very surprised they went with that title. In 2010, they reissued the original mixes of his entire catalog. There was an 11CD Signature Box, a 4CD compilation called Gimme Some Truth, and a 1CD compilation Power to the People: The Hits.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Aug 26, 2020 20:31:34 GMT
... Double Fantasy might be overrepresented at 4 songs. I can see how some fans think Yoko prioritizes certain stuff over others. There's always a lot of Double Fantasy on John's compilations, for instance, but frankly it's hard to argue against that, I think. It looks like SEVEN songs from Double Fantasy:
1. (Just Like) Starting Over 2. I'm Losing You 3. Beautiful Boy (Darling Boy) 4. Watching The Wheels 5. Woman 6. Dear Yoko 7. Every Man Has A Woman Who Loves Him
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