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Post by kds on Jun 19, 2019 17:24:03 GMT
This is an oddly specific music rant.
In the 2000s, there was probably not a more hated rock band than Nickelback. Of course, they were also hugely popular, which is one of the reasons they were so despised.
In 2011, Nickleback was part of an 11 part series about the history / evolution of heavy metal, in the episode on grunge. They were discussed during the post grunge or "grunge lite" portion of the program, and one idea kept getting repeated, "if you don't like the songs on the radio, listen to our albums or see a show," as if their album tracks would somehow garner some street cred among metal / hard rock fans.
This seems like trying to have your cake and eat it too. So, basically, you write half an album specifically for radio, and some heavier deep tracks tailored for headbangers, who will ignore you like the plague anyway.
Just own it. You're a massively successful band. I'd have gained an ounce of respect for Nickleback if one of their members said, "Yeah people hate us. 30,000 people are at every show. We're rich. And we bang 10s every night. Let 'em hate." That would be a total "rock star" move, much more rock star that the lame song with the same name.
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Post by Kapitan on Jun 19, 2019 17:42:18 GMT
Yes! The return of the best show on the internet!
I’m with you on this: while I wouldn’t like their music regardless, I’d have respected your proposed response. Make the music you choose to make and don’t apologize! If commercial success is your priority, there’s no shame in that.
But expecting people who don’t like what you’re giving them to go out of their way, to try harder or dig deeper, just in case they see that something you do might appeal? That’s ridiculous.
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Post by kds on Jun 26, 2019 14:15:20 GMT
I actually was just looking at a Facebook thread on one of the music groups I'm on about the band Imagine Dragons. One fan said something like "Oh, you need to see them live if you think you don't like them." I can't say I understand the logic behind that. If the songs suck in the studio, why would anyone like them better live?
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Post by Kapitan on Jun 26, 2019 14:25:23 GMT
I think it’s true that some bands are better live: probably most often rock bands for whom the energy of a room is hard to mimic in a studio.
But just as I’d not buy an album to listen to deep cuts of a band I didn’t like, I certainly wouldn’t shell out for concert tickets for a band I didn’t like based on some promise that I might better like their shows.
And from what I’ve heard, the only Imagine Dragons I’d like would be that with the mute button engaged. Ick.
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Post by kds on Jun 26, 2019 14:34:11 GMT
I think it’s true that some bands are better live: probably most often rock bands for whom the energy of a room is hard to mimic in a studio. But just as I’d not buy an album to listen to deep cuts of a band I didn’t like, I certainly wouldn’t shell out for concert tickets for a band I didn’t like based on some promise that I might better like their shows. And from what I’ve heard, the only Imagine Dragons I’d like would be that with the mute button engaged. Ick. I agree that a lot of bands are better in person, but a live setting won't transform a sh*t song into something worthwhile. And, for what it's worth, Imagine Dragons' performance at the NCAA Football Championship Game was panned across the board, and after that performance, they probably replaced Nickelback as the most disliked band among rock fans. I did watch about 30 seconds of the performance, and it was unbelievably dreadful.
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Post by Kapitan on Jun 26, 2019 14:39:23 GMT
What I’ve seen and heard of them just all comes across as unnatural: nobody aspires to be that and make that music, do they? It all seems highly contrived, market tested...and totally devoid of any substance or real energy.
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Post by kds on Jun 26, 2019 14:43:03 GMT
What I’ve seen and heard of them just all comes across as unnatural: nobody aspires to be that and make that music, do they? It all seems highly contrived, market tested...and totally devoid of any substance or real energy. I wouldn't rule anything out. Mainstream music over the last 25 years has been so terrible, that it wouldn't shock me that a band would actually aspire to be like Imagine Dragons since their sound seems to be a terrible mix of rock, pop, hip hop, and electronic music. Oddly enough, I heard a new Foo Fighters song on the radio today that kinda sounded like Imagine Dragons.
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