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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Jul 19, 2021 12:33:44 GMT
A review of Dylan's new show, available for streaming for a couple days. All new band, mostly old songs. I'm curious if the all new band is a one-off or a more permanent change. Also, it's interesting that Dylan didn't perform any songs from his new(est) album. He is notorious for playing his new music/albums.
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Post by Kapitan on Jul 19, 2021 12:35:33 GMT
A review of Dylan's new show, available for streaming for a couple days. All new band, mostly old songs. I'm curious if the all new band is a one-off or a more permanent change. Also, it's interesting that Dylan didn't perform any songs from his new(est) album. He is notorious for playing his new music/albums. Isn't that reason enough for Dylan to play only old material? Mustn't let anyone think they've got him figured out.
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Post by Kapitan on Jul 20, 2021 1:38:17 GMT
Here is an interesting review of the special from Sam Sodomsky of Pitchfork. One thing did crack me up a little, though:
"The film is subtitled “The Early Songs of Bob Dylan,” but that framing is a bit of a misnomer. None of its 13 songs predate his mid-’60s rock reinvention."
OK, so it isn't "The Earliest Songs of Bob Dylan," but surely beginning three or four years into a 60-year career can still qualify as "early," can't it? Later in that paragraph he notes the last song as being from Oh Mercy, so 1989. That means the final 38% or so of his career is not represented. Admittedly, that means it includes "the middle songs of Bob Dylan," The setlist is indeed of a certain vintage...earlier than later.
When I Paint My Masterpiece Most Likely You Go Your Way and I’ll Go Mine Queen Jane Approximately I’ll Be Your Baby Tonight Just Like Tom Thumb’s Blues Tombstone Blues To Be Alone With You What Was It You Wanted Forever Young Pledging My Time The Wicked Messenger Watching the River Flow It’s All Over Now, Baby Blue
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Post by Kapitan on Jul 21, 2021 16:45:08 GMT
Yet another new Dylan bootleg series collection has been announced: Springtime in New York is due in September and will cover the early '80s from Shot of Love, Infidels and Empire Burlesque.
Here is information including track list:
And the trailer:
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Post by lonelysummer on Jul 27, 2021 6:46:45 GMT
Yet another new Dylan bootleg series collection has been announced: Springtime in New York is due in September and will cover the early '80s from Shot of Love, Infidels and Empire Burlesque.
Here is information including track list:
And the trailer:
This is an odd one. I thought they already gave us all they wanted to give us of the gospel years on Trouble No More. Now they are giving us another disc of Shot of Love stuff. What makes it even odder is that they are pairing that material up with songs from Infidels and Empire Burlesque - the period where he (at least temporarily) renounced born again Christianity, and seemed to be returning to his Jewish roots, or maybe just abandoning religious faith altogether. I think I'm gonna pass on this one. Oh sure, I'll peruse the stuff they share on Spotify, but the mid 80's were, IMO, a very difficult time to be a Bob fan. He just seemed to be aimlessly wandering, with no direction home, trying to find the next thing - whatever that might be. We already had one BS devoted to the albums from Oh Mercy to Love and Theft, but now that the sets are starting to overlap, I hope we'll get one focusing on Down in the Groove, Oh Mercy, and Under the Red Sky. I'd love to hear more stuff from 74 Dylan/Band tour, particularly stuff from earlier in the tour when Bob's voice wasn't so shouty.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Aug 17, 2021 12:22:01 GMT
Bob Dylan accused of sexual assault in 1965:
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Post by Kapitan on Aug 17, 2021 12:35:48 GMT
I'm highly skeptical of allegations that go back decades, and in this case, over half a century. What's more (and contrary to the prevailing opinion in recent years), I think statutes of limitations ought to be enforced, even in alleged sex crimes.
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Post by B.E. on Aug 17, 2021 14:06:37 GMT
Highly skeptical is an understatement.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Aug 19, 2021 20:17:57 GMT
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Post by Kapitan on Nov 3, 2021 17:29:37 GMT
After almost two years away from the stage, the Bard is back. Here is a review of his show in Milwaukee. The set list:
Watching the River Flow Most Likely You Go Your Way (and I'll Go Mine) I Contain Multitudes False Prophet Simple Twist of Fate My Own Version of You I'll Be Your Baby Tonight Black Rider Mother of Muses Gotta Serve Somebody Key West (Philosopher Pirate) Early Roman Kings Soon After Midnight I've Made Up My Mind to Give Myself to You Goodbye Jimmy Reed (encore) Love Sick It Takes a Lot to Laugh, It Takes a Train to Cry
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Nov 3, 2021 19:21:03 GMT
After almost two years away from the stage, the Bard is back. Here is a review of his show in Milwaukee. The set list:
Watching the River Flow Most Likely You Go Your Way (and I'll Go Mine) I Contain Multitudes False Prophet Simple Twist of Fate My Own Version of You I'll Be Your Baby Tonight Black Rider Mother of Muses Gotta Serve Somebody Key West (Philosopher Pirate) Early Roman Kings Soon After Midnight I've Made Up My Mind to Give Myself to You Goodbye Jimmy Reed (encore) Love Sick It Takes a Lot to Laugh, It Takes a Train to Cry
I had a couple people ask me to go along to see Dylan in Hershey later this month. I told them, or warned them actually, that he'd probably be featuring his latest album (which I don't particularly care for) and that the remaining setlist would be mostly devoid of hits. I politely declined, and looking at that above setlist, I'm kinda glad I did. I think I'd be bored.
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Post by Kapitan on Nov 3, 2021 19:31:40 GMT
Agreed. I don't know if you read the review, but when it mentioned how many songs were played from his "exceptional" Rough and Rowdy Ways, I was a little confused. It could have been worse, sure. I preferred it to the standards albums. But exceptional? I would not say that--not by a long shot.
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Post by lonelysummer on Nov 4, 2021 4:16:26 GMT
After almost two years away from the stage, the Bard is back. Here is a review of his show in Milwaukee. The set list:
Watching the River Flow Most Likely You Go Your Way (and I'll Go Mine) I Contain Multitudes False Prophet Simple Twist of Fate My Own Version of You I'll Be Your Baby Tonight Black Rider Mother of Muses Gotta Serve Somebody Key West (Philosopher Pirate) Early Roman Kings Soon After Midnight I've Made Up My Mind to Give Myself to You Goodbye Jimmy Reed (encore) Love Sick It Takes a Lot to Laugh, It Takes a Train to Cry
I'll be the voice of dissent here and say, I've seen countless acts from the 50s 60s 70s reprise their hits on stage, with nary a hint of anything new or recent. So bravo to Bob Dylan for refusing to be stuck in an oldies rut (with the Memphis blues again). It took me a few listens to warm up to Rough and Rowdy Ways, and I wouldn't put it in my top ten of Bob albums, but it is an excellent album from a guy nearly 80. I don't know of any other artist that age that is still creating at a high level. Will be interesting to see how the set list evolves over the next year. I'm sure a few more of the old classics will make their way into the setlists, but right now, I think this is the most courageous thing he's done since the gospel shows of 1979.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Nov 4, 2021 11:45:59 GMT
After almost two years away from the stage, the Bard is back. Here is a review of his show in Milwaukee. The set list:
Watching the River Flow Most Likely You Go Your Way (and I'll Go Mine) I Contain Multitudes False Prophet Simple Twist of Fate My Own Version of You I'll Be Your Baby Tonight Black Rider Mother of Muses Gotta Serve Somebody Key West (Philosopher Pirate) Early Roman Kings Soon After Midnight I've Made Up My Mind to Give Myself to You Goodbye Jimmy Reed (encore) Love Sick It Takes a Lot to Laugh, It Takes a Train to Cry
I'll be the voice of dissent here and say, I've seen countless acts from the 50s 60s 70s reprise their hits on stage, with nary a hint of anything new or recent. So bravo to Bob Dylan for refusing to be stuck in an oldies rut (with the Memphis blues again). It took me a few listens to warm up to Rough and Rowdy Ways, and I wouldn't put it in my top ten of Bob albums, but it is an excellent album from a guy nearly 80. I don't know of any other artist that age that is still creating at a high level. Will be interesting to see how the set list evolves over the next year. I'm sure a few more of the old classics will make their way into the setlists, but right now, I think this is the most courageous thing he's done since the gospel shows of 1979. I'll admit to being guilty of some hypocrisy when it comes to Bob Dylan. When it comes to sentimentality and appreciation of the surviving "great ones" who are still around and still active, I feel very strongly and try to recognize, support, and basically salute them whenever I can. We just don't know how long they're going to be with us, and I don't want to take them for granted - though obviously I still do. In Dylan's case, in the last ten years or so, I think I saw him six times. And, my level of enthusiasm, while high each time, probably decreased incrementally each time. It wasn't because of Dylan's performance or effort - I felt he always gave 100% - it was mostly because of the setlists. On one hand, as lonelysummer alluded to, it's courageous of Dylan to do the kind of shows he is famous for, which is performing new material, more obscure songs, and only a smattering of hits. On the other hand, that can be frustrating, and at times...slightly boring. I'm a big Dylan fan, but that doesn't mean I necessarily like every song from every album. Well, if you're going to a Dylan concert, you better be ready for that, meaning there's a very good chance you're going to sit there and hear songs that you kinda wish he didn't pull out of his bag. It's just that's there's so many other great ones (yes, I know it's very subjective). So, theses days I'm torn. I wanna see him perform, I wanna support him, and, I know it sounds sappy, but I wanna thank him, too. It's just that I really don't care for a lot of his newer material, and that's what he's choosing to perform.
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Post by Kapitan on Nov 4, 2021 12:02:50 GMT
I separate the two things.
Conceptually, yes, it's great for artists to keep creating. And it's admirable to a degree when they perform that music, promote that music. It separates pure nostalgia acts that are more or less cover bands, even of themselves, from creative ones.
But in reality, in concrete terms in this specific case, I just don't like the album enough to want to hear that much of it. So for me it would be the difference between paying to attend a concert and not.
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