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Post by Kapitan on Dec 28, 2019 18:52:41 GMT
It's amazing how much better I became at high school sports after not playing a down, a minute, or an inning in several decades. Isn't that the way? I remember as a kid watching our high school athletes and hearing all the adult men around me talking about how good they were as quarterbacks or star basketball players. I don't know who were the role players, because it seemed to me our town was populated entirely with former stars!
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Post by bellbottoms on Jan 1, 2020 15:01:50 GMT
Saw Enuff Z'Nuff at "172" at the Rio Casino in Las Vegas on December 27th - it was a short set list and a small seated bar audience but it was a super fun show, and afterwards I had the pleasure of briefly meeting the very friendly Chip Z'Nuff as he worked his way through the "crowd". They didn't play my all time favourite Enuff Z'Nuff song (There Goes My Heart) but they did play Baby Loves You, Fly High Michelle, and New Thing, so I'm satisfied.
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Post by Kapitan on Dec 3, 2020 19:23:00 GMT
Hey, remember live music? Me neither. But...
Todd Rundgren will be doing a "virtual tour" early next year in which he will play shows (all from Chicago) apparently targeted toward different cities, livestreamed for fans in or around those cities. If you only buy one ticket, it has to be your "local" show; you can "attend" multiple cities' shows if you buy a package of tickets, but one has to be your own.
Helping to localize the experience (for him and his band), regional food will be catered for the band each show.
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Post by kds on Dec 3, 2020 19:26:30 GMT
I miss live music. Even though, I was probably only attending maybe three shows a year these days. But, I can't say I have any interest in paying for live streams or virtual shows.
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Post by Kapitan on Dec 3, 2020 19:40:05 GMT
But, I can't say I have any interest in paying for live streams or virtual shows. I could imagine doing it ... but not easily. It would take quite a show for me to decide that's worth it. A Beach Boys reunion-level show, not just some band I happen to like. Because realistically live music never sounds as good when you're out of the live environment and hearing it in a more objective way. (That's why boots and even touched-up live albums are interesting artifacts but rarely satisfying for me.)
The energy of an audience, the excitement of sharing a room with the musicians, maybe a couple of drinks in you, all of this adds up to enjoyment that when you hear the tapes, you think "oh I guess he did miss a few notes here, and that guy over there screwed up twice, and the harmonies were off half the time, and..."
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Post by kds on Dec 3, 2020 19:44:18 GMT
But, I can't say I have any interest in paying for live streams or virtual shows. I could imagine doing it ... but not easily. It would take quite a show for me to decide that's worth it. A Beach Boys reunion-level show, not just some band I happen to like. Because realistically live music never sounds as good when you're out of the live environment and hearing it in a more objective way. (That's why boots and even touched-up live albums are interesting artifacts but rarely satisfying for me.)
The energy of an audience, the excitement of sharing a room with the musicians, maybe a couple of drinks in you, all of this adds up to enjoyment that when you hear the tapes, you think "oh I guess he did miss a few notes here, and that guy over there screwed up twice, and the harmonies were off half the time, and..." To me, there's just very little difference between watching a streamed show and a DVD of a concert, or any concerts that can be found on YouTube. Back in October, the Trans-Siberian Orchestra teased a big announcement. I was hoping that, since they're unable to tour, they were going to announce their first Christmas LP since 2004. But, it's a live stream performance of their Christmas Eve and Other Stories album.
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Post by Kapitan on Dec 3, 2020 19:48:02 GMT
Oh I agree: the odds that THIS (whichever it is) streamed show would be significantly better or different than easily available ones are nil. But that's where I say, if it were some really special event, I might do it. But there aren't many really special events out there.
Hopefully by spring/summer '21, at least we can get back to outdoor concerts, even if there are some restrictions/precautions required. Though it's really the club and theater shows I miss most. They're my preferred venues, not that I really attend many shows anymore, either. In my 20s I was a 3-5 night a week show-goer (mostly just local bar/club bands, but still). Now it's more like 2-3 a year.
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Post by kds on Dec 3, 2020 19:55:25 GMT
Oh I agree: the odds that THIS (whichever it is) streamed show would be significantly better or different than easily available ones are nil. But that's where I say, if it were some really special event, I might do it. But there aren't many really special events out there.
Hopefully by spring/summer '21, at least we can get back to outdoor concerts, even if there are some restrictions/precautions required. Though it's really the club and theater shows I miss most. They're my preferred venues, not that I really attend many shows anymore, either. In my 20s I was a 3-5 night a week show-goer (mostly just local bar/club bands, but still). Now it's more like 2-3 a year.
We've actually had a couple of those drive in shows in the last month. Kix did one of the shows. It was so odd to see pictures of the crowd standing by their cars, rocking out. There's also a small theatre in Annapolis, which only holds 200 or so. They've reduced capacity to 100, and spread the tables around. Unfortunately, the local music scene in Baltimore was never to my liking. There were some good bar/covers bands, but I'd never go out of my way to see them. The bands that did originals seemed infatuated with the pop rock sound of the late 90s / early 00s.
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Post by Kapitan on Dec 3, 2020 19:59:58 GMT
I have to say, since I've been here Minneapolis always had a good local scene. Diverse, too! (And from what I read, that has been the case at least since the late 70s.) In those years around 2000 that I'm talking about, you could see really good blues; tons of roots/country rock; lots of ambitious indie pop; and some kickass, straightforward rock bands. There is also a thriving indie rap scene, though I haven't ever been too interested in it.
Then beyond that you always had national touring acts at every level--which in those days meant like $5-10 tickets for clubs--coming through town even at great places like First Ave.
However it's been several years since I was familiar with the local scene. Basically since I stopped performing in the '06-07 range, I stopped spending much time or attention on that side of things. And gradually I stopped seeing many touring acts, too... (Grumpy old man I have become)
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Post by kds on Dec 3, 2020 20:08:23 GMT
I have to say, since I've been here Minneapolis always had a good local scene. Diverse, too! (And from what I read, that has been the case at least since the late 70s.) In those years around 2000 that I'm talking about, you could see really good blues; tons of roots/country rock; lots of ambitious indie pop; and some kickass, straightforward rock bands. There is also a thriving indie rap scene, though I haven't ever been too interested in it.
Then beyond that you always had national touring acts at every level--which in those days meant like $5-10 tickets for clubs--coming through town even at great places like First Ave.
However it's been several years since I was familiar with the local scene. Basically since I stopped performing in the '06-07 range, I stopped spending much time or attention on that side of things. And gradually I stopped seeing many touring acts, too... (Grumpy old man I have become)
I wish the Baltimore scene had that kind of diversity. I worked in radio promotions in my 20s (2002-2006), so I saw a lot of local bands, and they all sounded the same to me. And I think when I got out of the business, after seeing so many samey bands and hearing so many bad covers of Sweet Home Fuckin' Alabama from bar bands, I lost any interest in seeing live music that wasn't by a major act.
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Post by Kapitan on Dec 3, 2020 20:11:31 GMT
One thing we have always had (as long as I've lived here, anyway) were not just a lot of bands, but a lot of bands who played originals. That definitely has a down-side, since cover bands usually are playing better material: I mean, the songs are covered for a reason. But like you said, how many times do you really want or need to hear this or that song? While originals bands are more likely to suck, I think they're more likely to also spice things up a little by getting your attention with something new.
The area where I grew up was the opposite. The nearest college town to my hometown, Mankato, was almost exclusively cover bands. That's where the money was in those days, before DJs made cover bands almost irrelevant.
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Post by kds on Dec 3, 2020 20:21:42 GMT
One thing we have always had (as long as I've lived here, anyway) were not just a lot of bands, but a lot of bands who played originals. That definitely has a down-side, since cover bands usually are playing better material: I mean, the songs are covered for a reason. But like you said, how many times do you really want or need to hear this or that song? While originals bands are more likely to suck, I think they're more likely to also spice things up a little by getting your attention with something new.
The area where I grew up was the opposite. The nearest college town to my hometown, Mankato, was almost exclusively cover bands. That's where the money was in those days, before DJs made cover bands almost irrelevant.
Covers bands are actually still a pretty big draw in Baltimore. I'll say that some of the covers bands I saw were really good. But, they all seemed to stick to the same 20-30 songs. After so many times, you stop believing and don't care if Tommy and Gina make it or not.
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Post by kds on Aug 26, 2022 17:41:12 GMT
I wasn't sure where to put this, and didn't think it was worthy of its own thread.
I heard on the radio this morning that Jack White has a strict no cell phone policy at his shows.
I kinda like it, and I've grown tired of seeing people holding up phones taking video or pictures, obstructing views.
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Post by lonelysummer on Sept 2, 2022 7:09:46 GMT
Going to see the Beach Boys this weekend. This will be the first show I've paid for this year. Saw local legends Jr. Cadillac for free at a street fair in July. Trying to remember who I saw last year. Beach Boys at the fair, Jr. Cadillac at the fair, McCartney cover band Wings N Things, ...maybe that was all. Shows just cost too much anymore, and i am still reluctant to be trapped indoors with a large crowd of people while Covid infections continue. I did see a few shows in 2019. Ahh, the good ol' days!
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Post by carllove on Sept 2, 2022 12:58:25 GMT
I wasn't sure where to put this, and didn't think it was worthy of its own thread. I heard on the radio this morning that Jack White has a strict no cell phone policy at his shows. I kinda like it, and I've grown tired of seeing people holding up phones taking video or pictures, obstructing views. My 26 year old daughter got invited to go see Jack White from a nursing school friend whose boyfriend bought the tickets, but then couldn't go. I looked up the set start times and they were all after 9:15 PM or so. So my daughter decided that was too late on a school night and decided not to go. That's when you know your kid is growing up.
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