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Post by kds on Apr 8, 2021 18:11:57 GMT
Roger Waters has just announced the dates for his 2020 postponed tour, now scheduled for 2022. Please tell me that 2022 will be normal, or at least normal-er. I did like this quote Waters will play songs from what he calls Pink Floyd's "golden era," along with "several" new tracks. "Words and music, same writer, same heart, same soul, same man," he added. "Could be his last hurrah. Wow! My first farewell tour! Don't miss it. Love R."I guess Rog has a semblance of a sense of humor after all ultimateclassicrock.com/roger-waters-2022-tour/
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Post by kds on Jun 1, 2021 12:52:53 GMT
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Post by Kapitan on Jun 1, 2021 12:55:26 GMT
Reading that article just makes me sad, really. There is something pathetic about it all.
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Post by kds on Jun 1, 2021 13:00:31 GMT
Reading that article just makes me sad, really. There is something pathetic about it all. I actually thought Roger was mellowing with age. He did that one off Floyd reunion for Live 8 in 2005, and Gilmour guested at a couple of Roger's Wall shows in the early 10s. But, Roger is apparently, the same bitter, petulant person that he's been for the last several decades. The funny thing is Roger acts like Gilmour is keeping him out of the Floyd Club, but in fact, Roger was the one who freely left the band in 1985, arrogantly assuming they'd cease to exist without him.
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Post by Kapitan on Jun 1, 2021 13:22:13 GMT
While I understand wanting people to recognize your own contributions, publicly bickering about it when it's not as if your contributions are unknown just rubs me the wrong way.
At least when Mike Love sued for songwriting credits, I think most people could understand that he had been literally--financially--cut out of his contributions. So even if some of the claims might have been excessive (I don't know), there was a strong case there. With Waters, everyone knows he was a major, or the major, creative force after Syd Barrett was out of the picture. We aren't talking about an underappreciated, unrecognized contributor seeking justice, but somebody with two-thirds of a pie trying to grab another piece.
This is an exaggeration, but it's as if Jimi Hendrix were insisting that he deserved most of the credit Noel Redding was seeking, or John Lennon were attacking Ringo Starr's quest for recognition. Really, Rog?
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Post by kds on Jun 1, 2021 13:29:59 GMT
While I understand wanting people to recognize your own contributions, publicly bickering about it when it's not as if your contributions are unknown just rubs me the wrong way.
At least when Mike Love sued for songwriting credits, I think most people could understand that he had been literally--financially--cut out of his contributions. So even if some of the claims might have been excessive (I don't know), there was a strong case there. With Waters, everyone knows he was a major, or the major, creative force after Syd Barrett was out of the picture. We aren't talking about an underappreciated, unrecognized contributor seeking justice, but somebody with two-thirds of a pie trying to grab another piece.
This is an exaggeration, but it's as if Jimi Hendrix were insisting that he deserved most of the credit Noel Redding was seeking, or John Lennon were attacking Ringo Starr's quest for recognition. Really, Rog?
Right, and Roger's name is all over the credits on those 1970s albums. Since Floyd stopped touring in 1994, Roger has essentially been able to reclaim his legacy, touring with very Floyd heavy setlists. I really wonder if the ice between Roger and David began to grow again when Gilmour decided to release the patchwork final Floyd album in 2014. It seems like that's about when the apple cart was upset again.
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Post by kds on Jun 2, 2021 13:00:17 GMT
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Jun 15, 2021 16:27:50 GMT
Roger is in the news again...
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Post by kds on Jun 15, 2021 16:31:36 GMT
I'd love to see Roger Waters channel some of his angst against.....well everything and everybody....into some good new music.
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Post by Kapitan on Jun 15, 2021 18:12:21 GMT
A person could easily argue that Waters could have done an enormous service to people whose causes he believes in by accepting the money (or negotiating for more) and using it for those causes and people. In all honesty, how much actual harm is caused by letting a massive commercial institution use one of your songs in an advertisement as opposed to how much actual good you could do with what he calls "a huge, huge amount of money"?
Even if he hates Instagram/Facebook/Mark Zuckerberg (fair enough), does he think that ad was going to kill people? Give them cancer? Start a war? It seems he doesn't like Zuckerberg in general (mocking the origins of Facebook as a way to basically check out girls, and presumably--knowing Waters--because he's really rich), which is fine. But if that number was in the millions, or tens of millions, that can go a long way and do a lot of good.
Frankly the whole thing seems like a "humble brag." "This guy I totally hate offered me WAY MORE MONEY THAN YOU'LL EVER SEE IN YOUR LIFE. But me? I turned him down! Yep, I'm just that amazing."
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Post by kds on Jun 15, 2021 18:25:31 GMT
I'm not sure what Roger is thinking here, but is it wrong that I'm really hoping Zuckerberg picks a post Waters era Floyd song for the ad?
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Post by Kapitan on Jun 15, 2021 18:54:04 GMT
To be clear, from my perspective, he can take or not take whatever offer to have his songs used in ads. I really don't care. But does a person have to be a publicly sanctimonious prick about the decision? So yeah, from my perspective, it would also be funny to take a late Gilmour song or something.
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Post by kds on Jun 15, 2021 19:00:22 GMT
To be clear, from my perspective, he can take or not take whatever offer to have his songs used in ads. I really don't care. But does a person have to be a publicly sanctimonious prick about the decision? So yeah, from my perspective, it would also be funny to take a late Gilmour song or something. That's kind of Roger's thing over the last 40 years or so. I'm a huge fan of the man's music, but he rarely comes across as anything less than a total prick.
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Post by jk on Oct 11, 2021 10:54:56 GMT
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Post by carllove on Oct 12, 2021 2:45:55 GMT
I had not heard of this and it is interesting! Thanks!
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