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Post by kds on Sept 27, 2021 13:37:45 GMT
I know that "Slither" was one of the new additions they had in their set list here, too. That, "You're Crazy" and another cover..."Wichita Lineman," maybe.
Honestly I wouldn't hold out much hope that they'll have a new album, and especially not a new good album. (It's not really promising that these singles are both Chinese Democracy-era songs.) But ... wouldn't it be nice if there were a new, great GnR album to kickstart rock and roll?
I haven't really listened to a ton of Slash's material since his self titled solo album in 2009, but the songs I've heard were pretty good. So, I'm hoping that if he can have any input, that GNR can put out a decent album. I'm not expecting anything on the level of Appetite or even UYI at this point though.
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Post by kds on Oct 1, 2021 19:24:31 GMT
Looks like Ozzy Osbourne isn't interested in waiting another ten years between solo albums. Last year's Ordinary Man had a couple guest appearances - Slash, Duff, Chad Smith, Tom Morello, Charlie Puth (seriously), Elton John, and Post Malone. It looks like the follow up will also have it's share of guests. ultimateclassicrock.com/ozzy-osbourne-eric-clapton-tony-iommi-album/
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Post by Kapitan on Oct 1, 2021 19:47:28 GMT
That link also itself links to something of interest: the origins of the new GnR single "Hard Skool." The music dates to the mid-90s, and was originally (working-) titled "Jackie Chan," as it was considered as a contribution to a movie of his at the time. It was then briefly reconsidered in the early 00s, when Rick Rubin was discussing producing the group, but was told it had no lyrics. A version of it apparently leaked just prior to Chinese Democracy, and was also included in the apparent massive treasure trove of GnR materials sold by a former exec in 2019 for $15k to a superfan. (The band naturally threatened legal action and bought back the materials.)
And now, more than two decades later, it has finally seen release.
There is a Hard Skool EP scheduled for February '22 release ("Hard Skool," "Absurd" and live versions of "Don't Cry" and "You're Crazy"). They are also reportedly working on a full-length album, with no details or anticipated release date. If it takes them six months to get out a 4-song EP of previously released and/or existing material, I suspect we'd be waiting quite some time for the full-length, if it happens at all. But maybe!
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Post by kds on Oct 2, 2021 0:43:08 GMT
Wow, I didn't realize that the EP is still over four months away. Seems a bit crazy considering both new songs are out already.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Nov 13, 2021 20:51:38 GMT
I just watched this documentary, New York Doll, for the first time (on YouTube). If you're a fan of the New York Dolls or the New York punk scene in the early 1970s, you will love this. Even if you're not, I think you will find the story touching. It's about the New York Dolls' bassist, Arthur "Killer" Kane, and his life as a Doll - and after. I don't want to give away too much of the story, but it's quite emotional.
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Post by Kapitan on Nov 14, 2021 20:42:22 GMT
Thanks for sharing that, Sheriff John Stone. I've only had a casual acquaintance with the New York Dolls. I knew them mostly from the references in the glam bands of my teenage youth: every article about Poison in the late '80s name-checked them.
This doc was interesting in a few ways: "the morning after" for once-hot artists; intra-band dynamics; the nature of fashion overall; etc. I enjoyed watching it.
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Post by kds on Dec 1, 2021 17:33:30 GMT
Iron Maiden is bringing their Legacy of the Beast Tour back to the States next Fall. ultimateclassicrock.com/iron-maiden-legacy-of-the-beast-2022-tour/This is interesting for a couple reasons. They started doing LOTB shows in 2018, and brought the tour to the US in 2019 (which I saw in Philly, and it might've been the best concert I've ever attended). Then, COVID happened and derailed their plans to do more LOTB shows in 2020. Out of nowhere, Maiden announced a new album this past summer - Senjutsu - which was released in early September. Since Dickinson rejoined the band, I've never known Maiden to do any second legs of tours in the States. It's been nostalgia tour - album - new album tour, lather, rinse repeat. So, it seems odd that it seems they're going to promote the new album on a nostalgia tour? Maybe, a full on Senjutsu tour in 2023-24?
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Post by jk on Dec 7, 2021 14:27:20 GMT
I have a question. More accurately, I need confirmation, as I think I know the answer already. In the book I'm copy editing right now, I noticed the term "trash metal". Now the "th" sound doesn't exist in Dutch, so it's highly likely that "trash" is a corruption of "thrash". Or... is there really such a thing as trash metal? My spies have been looking everywhere and the general consensus is that it's just a misspelling. Anyway, I thought I'd consult the experts at BBT to resolve it once and for all.
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Post by kds on Dec 7, 2021 14:37:38 GMT
I've heard of a lot of different subgenres of metal, but never trash. So, I'm thinking your theory of the corruption of "thrash" is pretty likely true.
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Post by Kapitan on Dec 7, 2021 14:48:56 GMT
Considering the lengths to which music journalists and fans like to create a subgenre for every little quirk, I could believe there IS a "trash metal" ... but I've also never heard of it, and considering your point about the "th" sound, I'd bet you're correct.
Tanks for asking.
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Post by Sheriff John Stone on Dec 7, 2021 14:53:19 GMT
I've heard of the term Thrash Metal but I don't know what it means or any groups that would fall into that category. I think it goes back a way.
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Post by kds on Dec 7, 2021 14:56:33 GMT
Considering the lengths to which music journalists and fans like to create a subgenre for every little quirk, I could believe there IS a "trash metal" ... but I've also never heard of it, and considering your point about the "th" sound, I'd bet you're correct.
Tanks for asking. I think I've heard / read fans refer to certain bands as "trash metal" as a derogatory term. I've also heard "butt metal," and my personal favorite "mall metal" that I heard a former coworker use about the band Trapt in the early 00s.
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Post by kds on Dec 7, 2021 14:57:52 GMT
I've heard of the term Thrash Metal but I don't know what it means or any groups that would fall into that category. I think it goes back a way. Metallica, Megadeth, Anthrax, and Slayer are the best examples. Basically a faster, more aggressive version of what some of the European bands in the early 80s (ie. Iron Maiden, Saxon, Accept) were doing.
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Post by jk on Dec 7, 2021 15:07:59 GMT
Tanks... er, thanks a lot, guys, particularly kds. From what you say, it can't be anything other than thrash metal!
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Post by Kapitan on Jan 7, 2022 20:00:49 GMT
This is the interview I referenced in the New Music 2022 thread. It's long, and if I'm honest, I absolutely despised listening to the talkative host in the lower left corner, thinking he a) yelled too much for my taste, and b) just talked too much, like he was trying to impress audience and guest with his stories (especially since they were both from a similar area of Massachusetts, like "cool, man, I'm a local!").
THAT SAID...it was interesting in spots. Nuno talks about his musical background, including going into some detail about joining Extreme and working as a struggling band trying to make it. He talks about Queen in some interesting ways in both pt 1 and pt 2. He talks about his guitar influences, giving tons of credit especially to Brian May, Eddie Van Halen, and Yngwie Malmsteen. He talks about being offered the Ozzy job to follow Zakk Wylde around 1994 but only if he took it on the spot, and turning it down ... only for Extreme to break up weeks later. He briefly also says he was offered the GnR guitarist job by Axl, though he doesn't say when. Obviously he means after Slash left, though. He talks about being on the Generation Axe tour (which has some really interesting and funny moments about those guitarists and how they did, and didn't, get along...all ending well). And yes, he talks somewhat about the upcoming next album.
But he also talks about work ethic. About songwriting. About the art v commerce tension. About friendship. About what it means to be the original of a band versus a replacement (in the context of what it would have meant to join Ozzy, or what it was for Gary Cherone in Van Halen).
He also seems quite drunk before it's all over--he's drinking wine throughout, straight from the bottle--which I am assuming helped loosen his lips. Here's pt. 1; if you enjoy, you'll find pt. 2 easily enough.
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