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Post by kds on Mar 24, 2019 4:40:04 GMT
No other album, not Dark Side of the Moon, not Sgt. Pepper, not Quadrophenia, not A Night at the Opera, not 2112, not Bat Out of Hell, etc can claim to have trapped its creater in an endless loop of live shows.
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Post by sebevedomy on Mar 24, 2019 8:12:53 GMT
Without this album we would not get the " very reminiscent of Pet Sounds-era Beach Boys" on every single review of any white-boy band of the 21st century. So that's something.
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Post by Kapitan on Mar 27, 2019 19:47:01 GMT
Without this album we would not get the " very reminiscent of Pet Sounds-era Beach Boys" on every single review of any white-boy band of the 21st century. So that's something. lol Self absorbed indie kids, Proudly sad since 1966.
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Post by Kapitan on Nov 24, 2019 22:27:33 GMT
Is it possible that Pet Sounds is among Beach Boys fans the most underrated Beach Boys album?
As I was listening to it recently and thinking yet again how mind-blowingly good it is, I was thinking how funny it is that especially over the past 15 years or so, its reputation among BBs fans seems to have grown smaller. It reminds me of how Beatles fans have tended to minimize Pepper and moved toward Rubber Soul, Revolver, White Album, Abbey Road ... basically anything else, it seems. So it made me wonder, as this community has gone out of its way to find something different, to seem edgy or unique, or even just to give appropriate praise to other albums, as it has lifted the reputations of later albums like Smiley Smile, Friends, Sunflower, Surf's Up, Holland, Love You, or reclaimed earlier hits-laden gems like Surfer Girl, Little Deuce Coupe, Today!, Summer Days and Summer Nights, are people actually underrating Pet Sounds?
I think so. Obviously. Or I probably wouldn't have posted this.
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Post by kds on Nov 25, 2019 13:10:20 GMT
Kap,
I think you're correct. For me personally, it actually took me a long time to really get into Pet Sounds. I bought a copy in 2006 with Sounds of Summer, based on the reputation, and to be honest, it really didn't move me. Even when I started to really get into the BB catalog in 2012 and 2013, I gravitated to other albums. So, when I joined the BB online world in 2014, I recall using the words "overrated" when describing Pet Sounds, and got little to no backlash. I can't put my finger on why, but it really took me until around 2015 to fully appreciate and love Pet Sounds.
I also think there's the fact that the album has been run into the ground with constant reissues and the fact that it's probably been played in concert more than any other classic album.
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Post by B.E. on Nov 25, 2019 20:12:54 GMT
Among Beach Boys fans? Absolutely. The vast majority of the online community (message boards, blogs, articles, etc.) didn't experience the Beach Boys golden era in real time. It seems that there's a fairly large group of active fans who came of age in the '70s and the rest seem to be spread out somewhat evenly among the subsequent decades. There are many ways in which this could effect the fandom, but the bottom line is that Surfin' Safari - Pet Sounds is simply underrepresented in terms of first generation fans. And, even if you aren't a first generation fan, if you're predominantly interested in the golden era of the group, you're far less likely to become part of the online community (and to stick around).
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Post by B.E. on Nov 16, 2021 0:34:33 GMT
Apparently, Pete Townshend has all the answers...
...all the wrong answers!
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Post by B.E. on Nov 16, 2021 0:51:09 GMT
Hilariously, Pete Townshend does a complete 180 and raves about Sgt. Pepper less than a year later. Here's a --> link <-- to the respective video. Man, I can't get over how unlikable Pete comes across regarding Brian, Pet Sounds, and "Good Vibrations ".
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Post by Kapitan on Nov 16, 2021 1:12:13 GMT
I've actually always found Townshend annoying and unlikable in general. But he certainly lives up to it there.
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Post by B.E. on Nov 16, 2021 1:18:13 GMT
I think there’s also a lot of competitiveness, jealousy, and ego to wade through when it comes to these sorts of things. But, that’s part of what makes it interesting.
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Post by kds on Nov 16, 2021 13:38:02 GMT
I've actually always found Townshend annoying and unlikable in general. But he certainly lives up to it there. He does tend to come across as an asshole at times, but I think that personality, and that angst, is one of the things that made his songwriting so great when he was in his prime. I tend to feel the same way about Roger Waters.
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Post by Kapitan on Nov 16, 2021 13:40:33 GMT
I've actually always found Townshend annoying and unlikable in general. But he certainly lives up to it there. He does tend to come across as an asshole at times, but I think that personality, and that angst, is one of the things that made his songwriting so great when he was in his prime. I tend to feel the same way about Roger Waters. I don't doubt that at all. Frankly John Lennon came off as an asshole a lot of the time, too, in the late 60s through early 70s. I suspect a lot of talented, creative people are the same way (and many have that reputation).
Reason #7,935 why we ought not idolize talented artists or pretend they're heroic or worth emulating as people. Being a good musician (athlete, painter, whatever) doesn't make someone a good person; being a good person makes someone a good person.
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Post by kds on Nov 16, 2021 13:43:09 GMT
He does tend to come across as an asshole at times, but I think that personality, and that angst, is one of the things that made his songwriting so great when he was in his prime. I tend to feel the same way about Roger Waters. I don't doubt that at all. Frankly John Lennon came off as an asshole a lot of the time, too, in the late 60s through early 70s. I suspect a lot of talented, creative people are the same way (and many have that reputation).
Reason #7,935 why we ought not idolize talented artists or pretend they're heroic or worth emulating as people. Being a good musician (athlete, painter, whatever) doesn't make someone a good person; being a good person makes someone a good person. Oh yeah, big time with Lennon, especially immediately following The Beatles break up.
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Post by B.E. on Feb 20, 2022 21:29:52 GMT
She has a very sharp musical ear. I've watched all of her Beatles reactions.
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Post by Kapitan on May 17, 2023 12:05:11 GMT
We missed a big birthday yesterday: Pet Sounds was released on May 16, 1966. Happy 57th to one of the best few albums ever released by anyone, ever.
I feel like I forgot my mom's birthday. (Which I've also done, by the way...)
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